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  • D Dan Neely

    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

    * don't even consider downloading if you use a 56k dial-up modem - you will be there downloading all week long. Some computer magazines did put Express editions on their cover mounted CD/DVD's and may still be available from their respective publishers.

    Each EE is small enough to fit on a single CD. You can download that much in ~24hrs over dialup. Downloading all of them would take a while, but you only really need webdev and either c# or vb.net.

    -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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    Lost User
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    What you said is common knowledge. I was trying to show the futility of trying to download something so big with a little 56k modem, knowing how reliable or not the public telephone system is and how often a download using a 56k modem fails to complete.

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      What you said is common knowledge. I was trying to show the futility of trying to download something so big with a little 56k modem, knowing how reliable or not the public telephone system is and how often a download using a 56k modem fails to complete.

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      Dan Neely
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      I downloaded an average of a gig/week on a 56k connection at one point, and know someone who hit >90% of the theoretical bandwidth limit for over a year. Then his neighborhood finally got broadband and there was much rejoicing.

      -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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      • D Dave Sexton

        WiB wrote:

        .NET Framework 1.2

        Eh? Is there such a beast? I'm only aware of 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 & lately 3.0. All the different versions are a PITA.

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        my mistake :cool:


        "Absolution requires sacrifice" -- Dan Brown 'The Da Vinci code'

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        • D Dario Solera

          If you are used to OO programming, these two books are great: - Pro C# 2005 and the .NET 2.0 Platform[^] - Pro ASP.NET 2.0 in C# 2005[^]

          Michael Martin wrote:

          Do I need a Windows Server 2003 machine running IIS to test said Web based appy things when I get that far?

          No, you don't. You just need Windows XP Professional. If you use ASP.NET 2.0 with Visual Studio, it has its own integrated server (it's very slow compared to IIS, but it works). You can grab, for a start, the Express Editions of Visual Studio here[^].

          ________________________________________________ Personal Blog [ITA] - Tech Blog [ENG] Developing ScrewTurn Wiki 1.1 (1.0.7 is out)

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          Thanks for the help Dario, I will see if I can get these books from one of my local bookshops.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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          • R RC_Sebastien_C

            Depends on your background but I found these usefull: http://www.amazon.com/Programmers-Introduction-C-Eric-Gunnerson/dp/1893115860[^] http://www.amazon.com/NET-2-0-Wrox-Box-Professional/dp/0470048409[^] Hope you find some work you like soon

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            Thanks, I will look into them a bit later today.

            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Michael Martin wrote:

              so I was relieved of my position at the pub almost 2 weeks ago

              So what happened? I thought you were in line to be managing the place?

              Michael Martin wrote:

              where I have to sell myself to some twat while being all nice

              Professional prostitution, by any other name. ;P

              Michael Martin wrote:

              Where should I start?

              Me, personally, I start by doing. Forget the books. The MSDN documentation is sufficient, there's lots of articles here on CP, and google is a great tool for researching stuff.

              Michael Martin wrote:

              How about some rambling stories of other peoples experiences to give me something to readd tomorrow when I get up.

              I decided to learn C# by writing about the C# keywords. Of course, I never finished series! Shame on me. :sigh: Then I picked an interesting subject (but chewable) and learned a bit about it, and popped out another article (I think the one on emitting IL to inject a break). In the process, I learn about stuff, I learn it deeper by writing about stuff, and I learn what an idiot I am (for example, that IL break was totally unecessary, as there's a System.Diagnostics.Debugger.Break method!). Another foray was into ASP.NET. There were a few articles on attempting to unify web and winform development. That stopped when I hit events and realized there were going to be major problems in that area. And so forth. But it's also great for the resume, to have articles out there. And along that thought, I'm about to publish "The Enumerable Enumerator" but got distracted by your post. :) Article here[^] :-D Marc -- modified at 9:25 Thursday 2nd November, 2006

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              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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              Thanks Mark, that was the type of rambling post I was looking for to read (late by the time I got up) Friday morning.

              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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              • R Ray Kinsella

                Michael Martin wrote:

                so I was relieved of my position at the pub almost 2 weeks ago

                Dare I say it, what happened ?

                Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch

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                Ray Kinsella wrote:

                Dare I say it, what happened ?

                Been coming for a while, which is why I had started looking for pub work elsewhere but everyone else is offering considerably lower money. A new licensee started back in late March. A complete twat who can't complete a sentence without talking about something he has done. So that means someone that I don't get on with. I have had to work with many twats in my time and it's always a case of focus on the job, deal with the twat as little as possible and you both get on with your lives. Slanty Man (said twat) couldn't do this, so he steals money (I have started getting information from other pubs he has worked where he has previously done this. The last pub before ours he lasted less than 3 months as the owners backed the other bloke and not him. Unfortunately our owners believe everything Slanty says) and blames staff members he wants to get rid of. Did this to a Welsh fella we have working there. In fact did it twice in the week before he went back to Wales to visit his family before returning. Now said Welshman is his "best" friend. The strangest thing was I was told I was being fired but was left in charge of the pub and the $75,000.00 float (obviously I untrustworthy). I tolg the General Manager (son of the owners) that money would o missing and I would be blames. I also said when this happened I would drag Slanty by the throat down into the main bar and punch the absolute fuck out of him. GM asked me not to touch him and any missing $ would be looked at from the point that Slanty took it as he trusted me and not the Licensee (WTF, so why isn't he gone and me running the place). So a couple of days later money goes missing, the whole thing comes nowhere near me (I had told the GM that if I was blamed and they had no photo eveidence (16 cameras watching everything and everywhere in the pub) I would FUBAR Slanty and no one would stop me) so that blew over. A week and a bit later I'm gone. Short version, they have hired Slanty on reputation (no one I speak to, seems to know him) and will run the pub into the ground before admitting they have fucked up. I have been back to the pub once since I was given the arse. Every staff member is morbid, and all told how fucked it has been since I was gone. All the locals mobbed me, tried to buy me a million beers and complained how fucked it is that I was given the arse and how shithouse the new bloke is.

                Michael Ma

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  XP Pro will be fine for web development. So that means no free beer when I come down, eh?

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  So that means no free beer when I come down, eh?

                  Not from the pub, but my fridge has never emptied so the free stuff is available. It's currently stocked with Byron Bay Premium Ale[^], you will have to drop in for a few.

                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                    ...so I was relieved of my position at the pub almost 2 weeks ago and have been doing bits and pieces to keep some money coming in to feed the family. I need to start that whole piece of crap where I have to sell myself to some twat while being all nice. It been a few years since I have been out of the computer scene proper and was thinkning I really should pull the finger out and have a go at getting back in. So lets say I need to learn about the .NET framework, C# and web based stuff. Where should I start? (So maybe I'm looking for book and or article recommendations) Do I need a Windows Server 2003 machine running IIS to test said Web based appy things when I get that far? How about some rambling stories of other peoples experiences to give me something to readd tomorrow when I get up. (No work for me)

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                    I may have missed a previous post about this, but why did you lose your job? (If you don't mind answering.)

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                    • L leckey 0

                      I may have missed a previous post about this, but why did you lose your job? (If you don't mind answering.)

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                      leckey wrote:

                      I may have missed a previous post about this, but why did you lose your job? (If you don't mind answering.)

                      Never mentioned it before Leckey. If you see my reply to Ray Kinsella above it gives a pretty full description. Briefly, the new boss didn't like me and even though the customers, staff and owners did he eventually got rid of me.

                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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