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  • A Amar Chaudhary

    my sister has to give a presentation on no smoking so i was googling for it i found this interesting http://forums.neverside.com/thread/90967/[^] 1. Should smoking become illegal? 2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be? 3. Do you smoke? 4. Have you tried to quit? 5. What are the effects while or after smoking? 6. What are the benifits of smoking? 7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be? 8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal? 9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods? :):)

    It is Good to be Important but! it is more Important to be Good

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    1. Should smoking become illegal?

    Either it and alcohol should or weed should be legalized. I don't like either of them, but I don't believe in double standards.

    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be?

    Personally, I do think 18 is already a good age. By then the body has finished growing for the most part and tolerate the abuse better than someone younger.

    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    3. Do you smoke?

    I used to.

    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    4. Have you tried to quit?

    Yes, and eventually I was successful.

    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    5. What are the effects while or after smoking?

    You get a fix and relax. One thing I always felt was interesting, is right after I morning jog when I was breathing clean and deep, one smoke would take that feeling away.

    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    6. What are the benifits of smoking?

    You get to act cool (ie, foolish) as a teenager, and you get pay taxes to the govt. every time you smoke because they know your ass is addicted.

    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be?

    Personally, I hope they become even more expensive. Soon enough people will have to seek other ways to kill themselves because they can't afford them.

    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal?

    No need for that really. Supply and demand, if we stop buying them, they'll go away.

    Amar Chaudhary wrote:

    9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods?

    Of course there is... yoga, meditation, etc. just to name a few.

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    • A Amar Chaudhary

      my sister has to give a presentation on no smoking so i was googling for it i found this interesting http://forums.neverside.com/thread/90967/[^] 1. Should smoking become illegal? 2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be? 3. Do you smoke? 4. Have you tried to quit? 5. What are the effects while or after smoking? 6. What are the benifits of smoking? 7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be? 8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal? 9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods? :):)

      It is Good to be Important but! it is more Important to be Good

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      Amar Chaudhary wrote:

      1. Should smoking become illegal?

      No

      Amar Chaudhary wrote:

      2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be?

      18

      Amar Chaudhary wrote:

      3. Do you smoke?

      Yes

      Amar Chaudhary wrote:

      4. Have you tried to quit?

      No

      Amar Chaudhary wrote:

      5. What are the effects while or after smoking?

      Amar Chaudhary wrote:

      6. What are the benifits of smoking?

      Relax. I can think better smoking. (Almost that is what i believe)

      Amar Chaudhary wrote:

      7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be?

      3 € (4 $ more or less)

      Amar Chaudhary wrote:

      8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal?

      I hope you can't And for the last one...Yes there are, but my girlfriend doesn't live in the same city.

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      • A Amar Chaudhary

        my sister has to give a presentation on no smoking so i was googling for it i found this interesting http://forums.neverside.com/thread/90967/[^] 1. Should smoking become illegal? 2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be? 3. Do you smoke? 4. Have you tried to quit? 5. What are the effects while or after smoking? 6. What are the benifits of smoking? 7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be? 8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal? 9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods? :):)

        It is Good to be Important but! it is more Important to be Good

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        Lost User
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        I've seen too many people killed by tobacco. Never smoked and in the UK smoking in places like pubs is being banned - good! There are lots of healthy ways to deal with stress - tobacco is an addiction like any other. Elaine :rose:

        The tigress is here :-D

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        • J Jim Crafton

          Amar Chaudhary wrote:

          9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods?

          Yeah, play soccer (football for the rest of the world) as frequently as possible!

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          Jim Crafton wrote:

          Yeah, play soccer (football for the rest of the world) as frequently as possible!

          Apparently there's an anti-soccer movement going on I didn't know about. :-D

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          • S Shog9 0
            1. No.
            2. How about the same age when we start letting kids drive?
            3. Sometimes.
            4. When i needed to.
            5. Clothing and breath stink.
            6. Something to do when you're stuck around boring people, besides drinking.
            7. Around $1. And since we're going all out on the price fixing, let's make bread $0.30 a loaf...
            8. The same way we, the people, make anything illegal: claim it's part of a plot by scary minorities to rape our young women. Then build bigger prisons. Prisons fix everything...
            9. Absolutely! Send me a donation of $9.99, and i'll ship you my free pamphlet on alternate, positive stress relief techniques (that i conveniently also sell equipment for - catalog included!)
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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Shog9 wrote:

            When i needed to.

            Um... when do you not need to quit? :laugh:

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Shog9 wrote:

              When i needed to.

              Um... when do you not need to quit? :laugh:

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              Shog9 0
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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              Um... when do you not need to quit?

              When the enjoyment of life seems like an impossible future, and the open arms of death seem ever more inviting... When i'm not smoking. ;P

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                Jim Crafton wrote:

                Yeah, play soccer (football for the rest of the world) as frequently as possible!

                Apparently there's an anti-soccer movement going on I didn't know about. :-D

                Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                Jim Crafton
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                Yeah, well you can't account for all the idiots!

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                • R Rob Graham

                  1. No, but perhaps the manufacture of tobacco products should be. (why insist on punishing the consumer, rather than the supplier)? These days the government profits from the sale of cigarettes more than the growers and manufacturers do. They are complicit in fostering and supporting the practice. 2. N/A, see #1 3. Yes 4. Yes 5. ? don't get the question ? 6. It's an addiction, and as such self-satisfying and self-sustaining. The issue is more what are the barriers to breaking the addiction, than what are the benefits... 7. Whatever the market (without government interference) makes it. 8. You have absolutely no right to do so. You can restrict its practice in public places, regulate its avaliability to minors, but have no right to prohibit private use. There is no justification for confusing tyranny by the majority with "democracy". Besides, it won't work, as the attempt to prohibit the consumption of alcholol in the early 1900s in the US clearly proved. It is grossly hypocritical to suggest that the users are the problem to be corrected while ignoring the producers (and simultaneously participating in the profits). 9. How is this question relevant? Are you making some unwarranted assumption about why people smoke?

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                  Rob Graham wrote:

                  8. You have absolutely no right to do so. You can restrict its practice in public places, regulate its avaliability to minors, but have no right to prohibit private use. There is no justification for confusing tyranny by the majority with "democracy". Besides, it won't work, as the attempt to prohibit the consumption of alcholol in the early 1900s in the US clearly proved. It is grossly hypocritical to suggest that the users are the problem to be corrected while ignoring the producers (and simultaneously participating in the profits).

                  Just out of curiosity, would you apply the same logic to drugs (i.e. LSD, pot, coke, etc)? For what it's worth, I agree with you.

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                  • C Chris Losinger

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                    sex is a great stress reliever

                    it's only the trying-to-get-it part that's stressful.

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    I'm sure the trying-to-get-it-up part much later in life, is equally stressful. Then it's time to pick up smoking. :)

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                    • A Amar Chaudhary

                      my sister has to give a presentation on no smoking so i was googling for it i found this interesting http://forums.neverside.com/thread/90967/[^] 1. Should smoking become illegal? 2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be? 3. Do you smoke? 4. Have you tried to quit? 5. What are the effects while or after smoking? 6. What are the benifits of smoking? 7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be? 8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal? 9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods? :):)

                      It is Good to be Important but! it is more Important to be Good

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                      1. No. 2. at least 18 3. No! I'm not stupid enough 4. Irrelevant 5. Death 6. None. 7. High enough that nobody can afford it... Say $1000 8. See 1 9. Anything is better than smoking. Jumping off cliffs even.

                      Ryan

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                      • A Amar Chaudhary

                        my sister has to give a presentation on no smoking so i was googling for it i found this interesting http://forums.neverside.com/thread/90967/[^] 1. Should smoking become illegal? 2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be? 3. Do you smoke? 4. Have you tried to quit? 5. What are the effects while or after smoking? 6. What are the benifits of smoking? 7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be? 8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal? 9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods? :):)

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                        leckey 0
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                        South Dakota is voting on a measure to increase the tax by $1 a pack in an effort to make it too expensive to smoke. Having lived with a smoker 12 years, I don't think this is going to work. it may make them cut back (still good) but I think the money recouped (if it passes) should go towards treatment for smokers to quit (medication, patches, even therapy if necessary). Kori tried to quit once and after the third day i was about ready to go buy him smokes because he was so miserable. BTW, he isn't worried about the tax increase if it passes since we live 2 miles from Iowa.

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                        • A Amar Chaudhary

                          my sister has to give a presentation on no smoking so i was googling for it i found this interesting http://forums.neverside.com/thread/90967/[^] 1. Should smoking become illegal? 2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be? 3. Do you smoke? 4. Have you tried to quit? 5. What are the effects while or after smoking? 6. What are the benifits of smoking? 7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be? 8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal? 9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods? :):)

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                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                          Amar Chaudhary wrote:

                          1. Should smoking become illegal?

                          No. But I don't want to breath in their foul smoke. It should be restricted to private areas only.

                          Amar Chaudhary wrote:

                          2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be?

                          18. It is currently 16 where I am.

                          Amar Chaudhary wrote:

                          3. Do you smoke?

                          No.

                          Amar Chaudhary wrote:

                          7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be?

                          Just high enough to discourage people, but not so high that smuggling cheap cigarettes is profitable.

                          Amar Chaudhary wrote:

                          8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal?

                          We shouldn't. If someone wants to kill themselves then I'm not going to stop them.


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                            I've seen too many people killed by tobacco. Never smoked and in the UK smoking in places like pubs is being banned - good! There are lots of healthy ways to deal with stress - tobacco is an addiction like any other. Elaine :rose:

                            The tigress is here :-D

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                            pubs

                            Pubs I can handle... but nothing worse than people smoking in restaurants (in doors). Some countries happily allow this and some restaurants don't even have non-smoking sections. X|

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                            • A Amar Chaudhary

                              my sister has to give a presentation on no smoking so i was googling for it i found this interesting http://forums.neverside.com/thread/90967/[^] 1. Should smoking become illegal? 2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be? 3. Do you smoke? 4. Have you tried to quit? 5. What are the effects while or after smoking? 6. What are the benifits of smoking? 7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be? 8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal? 9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods? :):)

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                              1. Should smoking become illegal? I just don't see why people do it, there should simply be no interest. 2. If not, what do you think the legal smoking age should be? It wouldn't matter, there would still be underage usage. 3. Do you smoke? I experiment a little. 4. Have you tried to quit? It wasn't so much "trying" as "doing". "Do or not do, there is no try." -- Yoda 5. What are the effects while or after smoking? Coughing, smelling up the place. 6. What are the benifits of smoking? None for the user, only for the providers. 7. What should the price of a pack of smokes be? Life. 8. How can we, the people, make smoking illegal? The usual way, but it shouldn't be necessary. 9: Is it possible to remove stress by using alternative, positive methods? Huh? Everything is possible. I prefer to de-stress where there are young women dancing while while wearing little or no clothes.

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