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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Ok, I have had a Philips 201B4[^] (phlips.com seems to be down currently) as my main monitor for around 3 years now (not really that old IMO). Yeah, I'm still stuck in CRT land. :-D A few months ago it started getting extremely blurry. Normally I'd think I'm going blind except my second cheapo monitor is still clear (go figure). No matter what setting I choose the stupid thing is still blurry as ever. So, please tell me there's a monitor guru out there can give me a clue? Is it the aperture or something I can adjust (I vaguely even know what that is), or is there any hope? Or, is it time to make Mr. Monitor meet Mr. Trashcan? Because after months of staring at this blurry thing I think I'm ready to throw it against the wall. Any advice by the knowledgeable ones is greatly appreciated.

    Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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    Atlantisguard
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    It's easy to solve! In the past I did reparation of this stuff. Some things to know: -Do it carefully! -Don't touch electronic parts -If you open the case, do not put the monitor on metal parts! (screws) -use correct screwdriver (isolated) How to: -Open he case -Put the monitor stable -Power on, wait 15 minutes (to heat up and got electronic parts stable. -If you look at the back, you see normal on the right or left side a big black box with a cable to the monitor (do NOT touch, high voltage) - Near this black or on the black box you see two trims, one of this is "Focus". -Turn this one with screw driver, use mirror to see the tube results. The bad news: -This will no solve the problem perm., a lot of philips CRTs has this problems! This is becasue the electronic parts are changing from value during cold and warm. Finding the incorrect part is not easy. Good luck!

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    • J Jeremy Falcon

      Josh Gray wrote:

      Its as bad as any other four letter word.

      No it isn't and you know it.

      Josh Gray wrote:

      Just goes to show everyone has a differnt idea of what is offensive, something to consider next time you want to wave the 'kid sister' rule around

      It's called a "kid sister" rule. I think it's pretty easy to understand what goes and what doesn't. Something to consider the next time someone feels the need to not use the soapbox to express themselves.

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      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      No it isn't and you know it.

      Yes it is. Perhaps its differnt in your part of the world but I consider as offensive as any of the other four letter words.

      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      It's called a "kid sister" rule. I think it's pretty easy to understand what goes and what doesn'

      Well the fact that its debated regularly, like now, shows that this is not the case. Not everyone has the same set of values as you Jeremy.

      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      Something to consider the next time someone feels the need to not use the soapbox to express themselves.

      Yes

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        "Please allow me to introduce myself..." :-D

        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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        El Corazon
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        "But whats confusing you Is just the nature of my game" ;P

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        • J Jeremy Falcon

          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          "Please allow me to introduce myself..."

          Dude, you are NOT my SO!! ;P

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          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

          Dude, you are NOT my SO!!

          he was referring to rolling stone lyrics. :) "Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name" :cool:

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            Ah. Got it. Big Stones fan, is she? Or are you just comparing her to the protagonist? :)

            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Christopher Duncan wrote:

            Big Stones fan, is she? Or are you just comparing her to the protagonist?

            Well no, it was a joke that died and failed miserably. Jeff was acting like SO's would be banging on his door and then you acted like you're meeting him when knocking on his door. I guess I need to revamp my subtle humor tactics. :-D

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Ok, I have had a Philips 201B4[^] (phlips.com seems to be down currently) as my main monitor for around 3 years now (not really that old IMO). Yeah, I'm still stuck in CRT land. :-D A few months ago it started getting extremely blurry. Normally I'd think I'm going blind except my second cheapo monitor is still clear (go figure). No matter what setting I choose the stupid thing is still blurry as ever. So, please tell me there's a monitor guru out there can give me a clue? Is it the aperture or something I can adjust (I vaguely even know what that is), or is there any hope? Or, is it time to make Mr. Monitor meet Mr. Trashcan? Because after months of staring at this blurry thing I think I'm ready to throw it against the wall. Any advice by the knowledgeable ones is greatly appreciated.

              Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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              Christian Graus
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              I have a Samsung 20.1 " monitor, and I swear by it.  In fact, I have two.  One has a dead scanline, and I got a replacement by warranty, and they've totally failed to come and pick up the old one, it's just sitting in a box on my floor.

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Big Stones fan, is she? Or are you just comparing her to the protagonist?

                Well no, it was a joke that died and failed miserably. Jeff was acting like SO's would be banging on his door and then you acted like you're meeting him when knocking on his door. I guess I need to revamp my subtle humor tactics. :-D

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                El Corazon
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                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                Well no, it was a joke that died and failed miserably.

                actually both comments were subtle that they passed right by each other.... but I got a kick out of the confusion. "But whats puzzling you Is the nature of my game"

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                  Big Stones fan, is she? Or are you just comparing her to the protagonist?

                  Well no, it was a joke that died and failed miserably. Jeff was acting like SO's would be banging on his door and then you acted like you're meeting him when knocking on his door. I guess I need to revamp my subtle humor tactics. :-D

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                  I guess I need to revamp my subtle humor tactics.

                  Either that, or I'm just more dense than usual today, which is, unfortunately, all too believable... :rolleyes:

                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    Dang! Just hit the Kid Sister wall...

                    :-D I would use my imagination, but that has been known to get me into trouble in the past.

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                    El Corazon
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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    I would use my imagination

                    He was just thinking you were going blind... :) the cause is what hits the kid sister rule. :laugh:

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                      No it isn't and you know it.

                      Yes it is. Perhaps its differnt in your part of the world but I consider as offensive as any of the other four letter words.

                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                      It's called a "kid sister" rule. I think it's pretty easy to understand what goes and what doesn'

                      Well the fact that its debated regularly, like now, shows that this is not the case. Not everyone has the same set of values as you Jeremy.

                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                      Something to consider the next time someone feels the need to not use the soapbox to express themselves.

                      Yes

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Josh Gray wrote:

                      Yes it is. Perhaps its differnt in your part of the world but I consider as offensive as any of the other four letter words.

                      I find this really hard to believe, but I'm gonna just have to take your word on it obviously. On an aside, to you think the term "bloody hell" is more or less offensive (no, I'm not offended by it, just curious)?

                      Josh Gray wrote:

                      Well the fact that its debated regularly, like now, shows that this is not the case. Not everyone has the same set of values as you Jeremy.

                      Fine, I'll make a point to not use it anymore in the lounge if you're really do find it offensive. It is just that simple.

                      Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                        Dude, you are NOT my SO!!

                        he was referring to rolling stone lyrics. :) "Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name" :cool:

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                        he was referring to rolling stone lyrics.

                        Now it makes more sense a bit. Well, it's still good for a laugh, but I think the laughter is at us rather than with us. :)

                        Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                          It's easy to solve! In the past I did reparation of this stuff. Some things to know: -Do it carefully! -Don't touch electronic parts -If you open the case, do not put the monitor on metal parts! (screws) -use correct screwdriver (isolated) How to: -Open he case -Put the monitor stable -Power on, wait 15 minutes (to heat up and got electronic parts stable. -If you look at the back, you see normal on the right or left side a big black box with a cable to the monitor (do NOT touch, high voltage) - Near this black or on the black box you see two trims, one of this is "Focus". -Turn this one with screw driver, use mirror to see the tube results. The bad news: -This will no solve the problem perm., a lot of philips CRTs has this problems! This is becasue the electronic parts are changing from value during cold and warm. Finding the incorrect part is not easy. Good luck!

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Thanks for the info. It this line does have me wondering though...

                          Atlantisguard wrote:

                          a lot of philips CRTs has this problems! This is becasue the electronic parts are changing from value during cold and warm.

                          Do you think rapidly changing weather would have an effect on this as well? Where I live, the saying goes "if you don't like the weather wait a day."

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                            I have a Samsung 20.1 " monitor, and I swear by it.  In fact, I have two.  One has a dead scanline, and I got a replacement by warranty, and they've totally failed to come and pick up the old one, it's just sitting in a box on my floor.

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            I have a Samsung 20.1 " monitor, and I swear by it.

                            Cool, I'll look into it. One things for sure, I won't be buying another Philips.

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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              I guess I need to revamp my subtle humor tactics.

                              Either that, or I'm just more dense than usual today, which is, unfortunately, all too believable... :rolleyes:

                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              which is, unfortunately, all too believable...

                              Well I would make a joke here, but since my last one failed I think I'll just stop. :)

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                                Josh Gray wrote:

                                Yes it is. Perhaps its differnt in your part of the world but I consider as offensive as any of the other four letter words.

                                I find this really hard to believe, but I'm gonna just have to take your word on it obviously. On an aside, to you think the term "bloody hell" is more or less offensive (no, I'm not offended by it, just curious)?

                                Josh Gray wrote:

                                Well the fact that its debated regularly, like now, shows that this is not the case. Not everyone has the same set of values as you Jeremy.

                                Fine, I'll make a point to not use it anymore in the lounge if you're really do find it offensive. It is just that simple.

                                Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                On an aside, to you think the term "bloody hell" is more or less offensive (no, I'm not offended by it, just curious)?

                                To me its far less so. Its a very Aussie saying, much the same as 'dam' seems to be a particularly American term. When I hear that term I dont get a literal mental image. I guess it partly due to the fact I've heard it all my life

                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                if you're really do find it offensive

                                Its not like I recoil in horror when I read that, or any other word, I just think you should apply the same restrictions on ourself that you expect from others here and as you've voiced your opinion on similar toppics many times you leave yourself open for 'cheap shots' and I admit thats what it was. take it easy :)

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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  which is, unfortunately, all too believable...

                                  Well I would make a joke here, but since my last one failed I think I'll just stop. :)

                                  Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                                  Christopher Duncan
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                                  :laugh:

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                                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                    On an aside, to you think the term "bloody hell" is more or less offensive (no, I'm not offended by it, just curious)?

                                    To me its far less so. Its a very Aussie saying, much the same as 'dam' seems to be a particularly American term. When I hear that term I dont get a literal mental image. I guess it partly due to the fact I've heard it all my life

                                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                    if you're really do find it offensive

                                    Its not like I recoil in horror when I read that, or any other word, I just think you should apply the same restrictions on ourself that you expect from others here and as you've voiced your opinion on similar toppics many times you leave yourself open for 'cheap shots' and I admit thats what it was. take it easy :)

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    Josh Gray wrote:

                                    I just think you should apply the same restrictions on ourself that you expect from others here

                                    I do. How much sex-related stuff do you see me talk about here in the lounge? How many times have you ever heard me brag, troll, post programming questions, etc. here?

                                    Josh Gray wrote:

                                    and as you've voiced your opinion on similar toppics many times you leave yourself open for 'cheap shots' and I admit thats what it was.

                                    I'm good at that it seems. :-D OT, but cheap shots don't really phase me. Sometimes I can find them funny to depending on my mood.

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                                      Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                      he was referring to rolling stone lyrics.

                                      Now it makes more sense a bit. Well, it's still good for a laugh, but I think the laughter is at us rather than with us. :)

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                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      but I think the laughter is at us rather than with us.

                                      or.... is it just the nature of my game? [evil]:laugh::laugh::laugh:[/evil]

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Ok, I have had a Philips 201B4[^] (phlips.com seems to be down currently) as my main monitor for around 3 years now (not really that old IMO). Yeah, I'm still stuck in CRT land. :-D A few months ago it started getting extremely blurry. Normally I'd think I'm going blind except my second cheapo monitor is still clear (go figure). No matter what setting I choose the stupid thing is still blurry as ever. So, please tell me there's a monitor guru out there can give me a clue? Is it the aperture or something I can adjust (I vaguely even know what that is), or is there any hope? Or, is it time to make Mr. Monitor meet Mr. Trashcan? Because after months of staring at this blurry thing I think I'm ready to throw it against the wall. Any advice by the knowledgeable ones is greatly appreciated.

                                        Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        I think your monitor is toast. I have a Sony F500-something, and it went fuzzy basically over night. It manages to keep some shades sharp (black on gray for instance), but anything with an intensity over 0.3 (full scale being 1.0), it's almost unreadable. That is an indication of a CRT not being able to bend the electron beams properly...

                                        -- Secreted by the Comedy Bee

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                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          but I think the laughter is at us rather than with us.

                                          or.... is it just the nature of my game? [evil]:laugh::laugh::laugh:[/evil]

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          :-D

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