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    Most of the times it comes in news that there is shotage of professionals world wide but the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates are moving on roads,becouse companies are not giving them chance to work as they do not have good % of marks througt out there academic carrier. is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent? Is this the way companies are going to sort out this problem?

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      Most of the times it comes in news that there is shotage of professionals world wide but the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates are moving on roads,becouse companies are not giving them chance to work as they do not have good % of marks througt out there academic carrier. is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent? Is this the way companies are going to sort out this problem?

      rahul

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      rah_sin wrote:

      is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent?

      No. For starters, communication skills are important as well. ;)

      rah_sin wrote:

      the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates

      How many of them are actually employable?

      Cheers, Vikram.


      "Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.

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        rah_sin wrote:

        is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent?

        No. For starters, communication skills are important as well. ;)

        rah_sin wrote:

        the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates

        How many of them are actually employable?

        Cheers, Vikram.


        "Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.

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        companies are not even giving them chance to appear in walkin's they are simply judging based on marks

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          Most of the times it comes in news that there is shotage of professionals world wide but the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates are moving on roads,becouse companies are not giving them chance to work as they do not have good % of marks througt out there academic carrier. is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent? Is this the way companies are going to sort out this problem?

          rahul

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          I too agree with the concept that employer should not ask for the consistent academic record. They can ask for the good percentage in the last exam passed. Because if someone has not done good in any of the past exam due to some reason then he/she should not be prohibited from appearing in the interviews. BTW this can be my personal opinion. :)

          Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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            companies are not even giving them chance to appear in walkin's they are simply judging based on marks

            rahul

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            Tim Craig
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            rah_sin wrote:

            they are simply judging based on marks

            So you think you should have worked a little harder on your courses and partied a little less? ;P

            The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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              rah_sin wrote:

              is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent?

              No. For starters, communication skills are important as well. ;)

              rah_sin wrote:

              the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates

              How many of them are actually employable?

              Cheers, Vikram.


              "Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.

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              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              For starters, communication skills are important as well.

              I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              How many of them are actually employable?

              That can be checked by recrutment process isn't it.

              Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                I too agree with the concept that employer should not ask for the consistent academic record. They can ask for the good percentage in the last exam passed. Because if someone has not done good in any of the past exam due to some reason then he/she should not be prohibited from appearing in the interviews. BTW this can be my personal opinion. :)

                Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                They can ask for the good percentage in the last exam passed.

                So just keep taking courses until you get lucky and get a good mark on an exam? Brilliant.

                The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                  Most of the times it comes in news that there is shotage of professionals world wide but the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates are moving on roads,becouse companies are not giving them chance to work as they do not have good % of marks througt out there academic carrier. is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent? Is this the way companies are going to sort out this problem?

                  rahul

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                  If you advertise an entry level position and get 200 applications you cant interview them all because it would take weeks so you have to cull the applications some how. An easy and effective way to do it is to only interview the 10% of applicants that have the best academic results.

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                    Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                    They can ask for the good percentage in the last exam passed.

                    So just keep taking courses until you get lucky and get a good mark on an exam? Brilliant.

                    The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                    Tim Craig wrote:

                    o just keep taking courses until you get lucky and get a good mark on an exam? Brilliant.

                    Not exactly, because the situation is either after the degree or your masters you start for a job search so they can ask for the percentage of this. And also it is not the case that if you got a good percentage in your 10th then and there you can get a job because you have a good percentage. And even if you have a good percentage you have to go through technical interviews there also you can be judged. :)

                    Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                      If you advertise an entry level position and get 200 applications you cant interview them all because it would take weeks so you have to cull the applications some how. An easy and effective way to do it is to only interview the 10% of applicants that have the best academic results.

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                      yes you are quite correct, but again because of that some candidates who can be suitable are not being intertained because of this. But yes this costs less when you compare it with entertaining 1000 of candidates. :-D

                      Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                        yes you are quite correct, but again because of that some candidates who can be suitable are not being intertained because of this. But yes this costs less when you compare it with entertaining 1000 of candidates. :-D

                        Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                        But, who cares ? What's the point of exams, if not to create an initial filter, an initial way to decide who seems best suited ?

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                          But, who cares ? What's the point of exams, if not to create an initial filter, an initial way to decide who seems best suited ?

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                          Yes that is correct that exams performance are the initial filter but if you are asking for excellent consistentcy in all you exams and one who has just not done very good in one exam(may be or may not be a genuine reason), shouldn't he be entertained?

                          Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                            Most of the times it comes in news that there is shotage of professionals world wide but the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates are moving on roads,becouse companies are not giving them chance to work as they do not have good % of marks througt out there academic carrier. is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent? Is this the way companies are going to sort out this problem?

                            rahul

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                            well, i recently completed my studies and i think i had the most disastrous record in my academics. its emabarassing to say this but i had an aggregare of 58% .. due to this i did not get the opportunity to attend the campus interviews.. but i was well prepared and was determined to make the best use of an opportunity if i was given any. and now, i feel good to say that i got through the very first opportunity that came my way. :):) incidently i became the first person in my batch to get a job off campus.. :):) well, for the people who dont have good academic record and searching for a job, dont worry... you will surely get some opportunities. since the opportunities are minimum, just be prepared to make the best use of them when they come...i wish you all a very good luck..:):)

                            vijay.

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                              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                              For starters, communication skills are important as well.

                              I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

                              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                              How many of them are actually employable?

                              That can be checked by recrutment process isn't it.

                              Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                              Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: For starters, communication skills are important as well. I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

                              Noticed the "wink" at the end of the sentence in Vikram's reply? He was ribbing at the grammatical error in the OP's post.

                              Regards Senthil [MVP - Visual C#] _____________________________ My Blog | My Articles | WinMacro

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                                Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: For starters, communication skills are important as well. I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

                                Noticed the "wink" at the end of the sentence in Vikram's reply? He was ribbing at the grammatical error in the OP's post.

                                Regards Senthil [MVP - Visual C#] _____________________________ My Blog | My Articles | WinMacro

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                                oops.... I literally haven't given attention to that.. :)

                                Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                  well, i recently completed my studies and i think i had the most disastrous record in my academics. its emabarassing to say this but i had an aggregare of 58% .. due to this i did not get the opportunity to attend the campus interviews.. but i was well prepared and was determined to make the best use of an opportunity if i was given any. and now, i feel good to say that i got through the very first opportunity that came my way. :):) incidently i became the first person in my batch to get a job off campus.. :):) well, for the people who dont have good academic record and searching for a job, dont worry... you will surely get some opportunities. since the opportunities are minimum, just be prepared to make the best use of them when they come...i wish you all a very good luck..:):)

                                  vijay.

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                                  Peter Bryan
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                                  Ha ha At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees. ;P

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                                    Ha ha At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees. ;P

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                                    vijay_aroli
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                                    Peter Bryan wrote:

                                    At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees

                                    yes, Skills are important.. not the percentage of marks.. :):):)

                                    vijay.

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                                      Peter Bryan wrote:

                                      At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees

                                      yes, Skills are important.. not the percentage of marks.. :):):)

                                      vijay.

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                                      quite correct.. :-D

                                      Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                        Yes that is correct that exams performance are the initial filter but if you are asking for excellent consistentcy in all you exams and one who has just not done very good in one exam(may be or may not be a genuine reason), shouldn't he be entertained?

                                        Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Well, the guy who did do well in all his exams passes the filter, simple as that. If you didn't do well, and now you can't get an interview, try to think of other ways you can impress an interviewer, to prove that you're worth talking to.

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                                          Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: For starters, communication skills are important as well. I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

                                          Noticed the "wink" at the end of the sentence in Vikram's reply? He was ribbing at the grammatical error in the OP's post.

                                          Regards Senthil [MVP - Visual C#] _____________________________ My Blog | My Articles | WinMacro

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                                          i think before making anybody member the CP should take TOEFL for registering member to qualify for becoming member of CP.

                                          rahul

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