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  • _ _AK_

    yes you are quite correct, but again because of that some candidates who can be suitable are not being intertained because of this. But yes this costs less when you compare it with entertaining 1000 of candidates. :-D

    Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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    Christian Graus
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    But, who cares ? What's the point of exams, if not to create an initial filter, an initial way to decide who seems best suited ?

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      But, who cares ? What's the point of exams, if not to create an initial filter, an initial way to decide who seems best suited ?

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      Yes that is correct that exams performance are the initial filter but if you are asking for excellent consistentcy in all you exams and one who has just not done very good in one exam(may be or may not be a genuine reason), shouldn't he be entertained?

      Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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      • R rah_sin

        Most of the times it comes in news that there is shotage of professionals world wide but the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates are moving on roads,becouse companies are not giving them chance to work as they do not have good % of marks througt out there academic carrier. is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent? Is this the way companies are going to sort out this problem?

        rahul

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        vijay_aroli
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        well, i recently completed my studies and i think i had the most disastrous record in my academics. its emabarassing to say this but i had an aggregare of 58% .. due to this i did not get the opportunity to attend the campus interviews.. but i was well prepared and was determined to make the best use of an opportunity if i was given any. and now, i feel good to say that i got through the very first opportunity that came my way. :):) incidently i became the first person in my batch to get a job off campus.. :):) well, for the people who dont have good academic record and searching for a job, dont worry... you will surely get some opportunities. since the opportunities are minimum, just be prepared to make the best use of them when they come...i wish you all a very good luck..:):)

        vijay.

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        • _ _AK_

          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

          For starters, communication skills are important as well.

          I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

          How many of them are actually employable?

          That can be checked by recrutment process isn't it.

          Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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          S Senthil Kumar
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          Apurva Kaushal wrote:

          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: For starters, communication skills are important as well. I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

          Noticed the "wink" at the end of the sentence in Vikram's reply? He was ribbing at the grammatical error in the OP's post.

          Regards Senthil [MVP - Visual C#] _____________________________ My Blog | My Articles | WinMacro

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            Apurva Kaushal wrote:

            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: For starters, communication skills are important as well. I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

            Noticed the "wink" at the end of the sentence in Vikram's reply? He was ribbing at the grammatical error in the OP's post.

            Regards Senthil [MVP - Visual C#] _____________________________ My Blog | My Articles | WinMacro

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            oops.... I literally haven't given attention to that.. :)

            Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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            • V vijay_aroli

              well, i recently completed my studies and i think i had the most disastrous record in my academics. its emabarassing to say this but i had an aggregare of 58% .. due to this i did not get the opportunity to attend the campus interviews.. but i was well prepared and was determined to make the best use of an opportunity if i was given any. and now, i feel good to say that i got through the very first opportunity that came my way. :):) incidently i became the first person in my batch to get a job off campus.. :):) well, for the people who dont have good academic record and searching for a job, dont worry... you will surely get some opportunities. since the opportunities are minimum, just be prepared to make the best use of them when they come...i wish you all a very good luck..:):)

              vijay.

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              Peter Bryan
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              Ha ha At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees. ;P

              Peter

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                Ha ha At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees. ;P

                Peter

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                vijay_aroli
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                Peter Bryan wrote:

                At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees

                yes, Skills are important.. not the percentage of marks.. :):):)

                vijay.

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                  Peter Bryan wrote:

                  At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees

                  yes, Skills are important.. not the percentage of marks.. :):):)

                  vijay.

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                  _AK_
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                  quite correct.. :-D

                  Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                  • _ _AK_

                    Yes that is correct that exams performance are the initial filter but if you are asking for excellent consistentcy in all you exams and one who has just not done very good in one exam(may be or may not be a genuine reason), shouldn't he be entertained?

                    Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Well, the guy who did do well in all his exams passes the filter, simple as that. If you didn't do well, and now you can't get an interview, try to think of other ways you can impress an interviewer, to prove that you're worth talking to.

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                      Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: For starters, communication skills are important as well. I agree, but having good academic records is also not a guarantee for having good communication skills.

                      Noticed the "wink" at the end of the sentence in Vikram's reply? He was ribbing at the grammatical error in the OP's post.

                      Regards Senthil [MVP - Visual C#] _____________________________ My Blog | My Articles | WinMacro

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                      i think before making anybody member the CP should take TOEFL for registering member to qualify for becoming member of CP.

                      rahul

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                      • _ _AK_

                        Tim Craig wrote:

                        o just keep taking courses until you get lucky and get a good mark on an exam? Brilliant.

                        Not exactly, because the situation is either after the degree or your masters you start for a job search so they can ask for the percentage of this. And also it is not the case that if you got a good percentage in your 10th then and there you can get a job because you have a good percentage. And even if you have a good percentage you have to go through technical interviews there also you can be judged. :)

                        Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                        I think your last post is a perfect example of your lack of communication skills, at least in English and that's what your job is going to require.

                        The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                        • _ _AK_

                          Yes that is correct that exams performance are the initial filter but if you are asking for excellent consistentcy in all you exams and one who has just not done very good in one exam(may be or may not be a genuine reason), shouldn't he be entertained?

                          Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                          Tim Craig
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                          Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                          and one who has just not done very good in one exam

                          I don't think one exam in 4 years of college is going to affect the overall results that much. You have to have been slacking off more than that.

                          The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                          • _ _AK_

                            quite correct.. :-D

                            Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                            Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                            qqite correct..

                            :)

                            vijay.

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                              Ha ha At the end of the day it merit what matters not degrees. ;P

                              Peter

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                              Tim Craig
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                              Peter Bryan wrote:

                              it merit what matters not degrees

                              But the degree can open the doors for you. The degree says you took the time and effort to develop the skills. Without it, you have to prove what you have and you'll do it generally from the end of the line.

                              The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                              • R rah_sin

                                Most of the times it comes in news that there is shotage of professionals world wide but the ground reality is that 1000's of engineering graduates and post graduates are moving on roads,becouse companies are not giving them chance to work as they do not have good % of marks througt out there academic carrier. is the marks are right way to judge anybodies talent? Is this the way companies are going to sort out this problem?

                                rahul

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                                rah_sin wrote:

                                Most of the times it comes in news that there is shotage of professionals world wide

                                I think it is more a shortage of "good" people rather than a general shortage. Each job that gets advertised always has a lot of candidates. The trouble is that most are pretty poor and lack the skills needed to do a job. A good grade from university doesn't make for a good hire, but it can be an indication of the person's work-ethic.

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                                  I think your last post is a perfect example of your lack of communication skills, at least in English and that's what your job is going to require.

                                  The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                                  _AK_
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                                  ohh! was it that bad.. :sigh: I may be still in the learning phase of it. :)

                                  Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                    Well, the guy who did do well in all his exams passes the filter, simple as that. If you didn't do well, and now you can't get an interview, try to think of other ways you can impress an interviewer, to prove that you're worth talking to.

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    try to think of other ways you can impress an interviewer, to prove that you're worth talking to.

                                    Which can be, start working in a comparitively smaller firm and then after getting some good knowledge go there. :)

                                    Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                    • R rah_sin

                                      i think before making anybody member the CP should take TOEFL for registering member to qualify for becoming member of CP.

                                      rahul

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                                      Tim Craig
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                                      rah_sin wrote:

                                      i think before making anybody member the CP should take TOEFL for registering member to qualify for becoming member of CP.

                                      I bet I can pass that sucker. ;P

                                      The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                                        ohh! was it that bad.. :sigh: I may be still in the learning phase of it. :)

                                        Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                        Tim Craig
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                                        Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                                        ohh! was it that bad.. I may be still in the learning phase of it.

                                        I've seen worse on here. English isn't easy as nothing is regular. I've been at it for almost 60 years and I have to look up things now and then still.

                                        The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                                        • R rah_sin

                                          i think before making anybody member the CP should take TOEFL for registering member to qualify for becoming member of CP.

                                          rahul

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                                          Anand Vivek Srivastava
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                                          I think before making a posting on the forums, take some time to read what you post. typing errors may be overlooked, but the statements should make sense.

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