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  • C coolestCoder

    Can we stop piracy in any way ? I personally dont think so.


    "A good programmer is someone who looks both ways before crossing a one-way street." -- Doug Linder


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    Sceptic Mole
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    coolestCoder wrote:

    Can we stop piracy in any way? I personally dont think so.

    Of course you can make a program hard to crack, e.g. by providing thousands of distributed checks instead of one central 'key'. Certainly MS knows that. BTW, strangely enough Linux seems to have absolutely no problem with 'piracy' ... ;P

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Vista gold but cracked already[^] Microsoft Windows Vista and Office 2007 only just went gold, and their anti-piracy measures have already been cracked...It comes supplied with a product key, allowing users to install the operating system on their computers unhindered

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Ryan Roberts
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      Windows wouldn't have the market penetration it does without piracy.. It's a question of how much they can get people to pay, and how many will pay up.

      Ryan

      "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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      • P Paul Watson

        I didn't know about either hack.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

        Shog9 wrote:

        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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        Brian Bartlett
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        You can monitor it on the crack groups on UseNet. I used to monitor all those groups, the 'hacking' groups (I'm a hacker, they're vandals!), and their various underground boards all the time. If you do security work it's nice to have a clue at what you'll be seeing shortly if not immediately. I'm surprised that the crack wasn't posted before it went Gold. That's happened on more than one occasion, actually that's the more usual case by a long mile and not just to MS.

        -Bri "The most deadly words for an engineer. 'I have an idea.'"

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          Windows wouldn't have the market penetration it does without piracy.. It's a question of how much they can get people to pay, and how many will pay up.

          Ryan

          "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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          Brian Bartlett
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          And you can bet your best computer that they have internal econometric studies which estimate overall sales by pricepoint. If it were my firm, I sure would or even conduct the studies myself.

          -Bri "The most deadly words for an engineer. 'I have an idea.'"

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          • S Sceptic Mole

            coolestCoder wrote:

            Can we stop piracy in any way? I personally dont think so.

            Of course you can make a program hard to crack, e.g. by providing thousands of distributed checks instead of one central 'key'. Certainly MS knows that. BTW, strangely enough Linux seems to have absolutely no problem with 'piracy' ... ;P

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            Colin Angus Mackay
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            Sceptic Mole wrote:

            BTW, strangely enough Linux seems to have absolutely no problem with 'piracy' ...

            Who'd want to. I recently tried Linux and eventually put back Windows XP on the machine. Linux is getting there, and I will try it again sometime, but at present I don't think it is good enough to be a real contender.


            *** Developer Day 4 in Reading, England on 2nd December 2006 - Registration Now Open *** Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog | Photos

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            • C Chris Maunder

              Vista gold but cracked already[^] Microsoft Windows Vista and Office 2007 only just went gold, and their anti-piracy measures have already been cracked...It comes supplied with a product key, allowing users to install the operating system on their computers unhindered

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              Rocky Moore
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              But can you hear all the crying out there when a Windows Update in the future locks their computer down to nothing more than a web browser for one hour per day, after Microsoft blocks the patches and sends out the update to their machines. If they want their systems to stay up-to-date with the latest updates and patches, they probably will have to buy it. Sure hope we do not read in the news that some large corporation suddenly lost all their computers to a virus and find out later, it as an MS update ;)

              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Enviromission - Solar power of the future?

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                But can you hear all the crying out there when a Windows Update in the future locks their computer down to nothing more than a web browser for one hour per day, after Microsoft blocks the patches and sends out the update to their machines. If they want their systems to stay up-to-date with the latest updates and patches, they probably will have to buy it. Sure hope we do not read in the news that some large corporation suddenly lost all their computers to a virus and find out later, it as an MS update ;)

                Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Enviromission - Solar power of the future?

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                Todd Smith
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                Rocky Moore wrote:

                But can you hear all the crying out there when a Windows Update in the future locks their computer down to nothing more than a web browser for one hour per day, after Microsoft blocks the patches and sends out the update to their machines.

                That only happens to legitimate users :mad:

                Todd Smith

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Vista gold but cracked already[^] Microsoft Windows Vista and Office 2007 only just went gold, and their anti-piracy measures have already been cracked...It comes supplied with a product key, allowing users to install the operating system on their computers unhindered

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  The software giant has taken similar measures previously with Windows XP, preventing users that it had identified as using pirated versions from downloading certain updates such as Internet Explorer 7. There you go EU - that isn't so hard to do, is it?

                  Regards, Nish


                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    I didn't know about either hack.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    I didn't know about either hack.

                    That's Paul-speak for "I don't do cracks and warez, I only use legal software". Being a nice kid, he had to say that indirectly ;P

                    Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      Sceptic Mole wrote:

                      BTW, strangely enough Linux seems to have absolutely no problem with 'piracy' ...

                      Who'd want to. I recently tried Linux and eventually put back Windows XP on the machine. Linux is getting there, and I will try it again sometime, but at present I don't think it is good enough to be a real contender.


                      *** Developer Day 4 in Reading, England on 2nd December 2006 - Registration Now Open *** Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                      realJSOP
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                      The very nature of Linux will prevent it from being completely usable. (And I hate having to say that.)

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        I didn't know about either hack.

                        That's Paul-speak for "I don't do cracks and warez, I only use legal software". Being a nice kid, he had to say that indirectly ;P

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                        Paul Watson
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                        LOL

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Vista gold but cracked already[^] Microsoft Windows Vista and Office 2007 only just went gold, and their anti-piracy measures have already been cracked...It comes supplied with a product key, allowing users to install the operating system on their computers unhindered

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Russell Morris
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                          Just goes to show that on a fundamental level you can't both give someone access to something and keep it secret from them.

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            I didn't know about either hack.

                            That's Paul-speak for "I don't do cracks and warez, I only use legal software". Being a nice kid, he had to say that indirectly ;P

                            Regards, Nish


                            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                            WillemM
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                            That's what pleasing a sponsor is all about. And we can be pretty sure he has windows vista legally, since he's always reporting new stuff on the OS when there's something new to report.

                            WM. What about weapons of mass-construction?

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                            • T Todd Smith

                              Rocky Moore wrote:

                              But can you hear all the crying out there when a Windows Update in the future locks their computer down to nothing more than a web browser for one hour per day, after Microsoft blocks the patches and sends out the update to their machines.

                              That only happens to legitimate users :mad:

                              Todd Smith

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                              Rocky Moore
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                              :)

                              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Enviromission - Solar power of the future?

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