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  • M Mike_V

    Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^] "The Sysinternals web site was created in 1996 by Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell to host their advanced system utilities and technical information and Microsoft acquired Sysinternals in July, 2006." Seriously! Did somebody not proofread the FIRST SENTENCE on the website?! My first post from Vista! Mike

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    JimmyRopes
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    imho u r ar (anal retentive) if u r obsasa (offended by something as small as) a ros (run on sentanace). :)

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    • C Christian Graus

      It's true, it doesn't actually matter, and the world is sliding into illiteracy anyhow, so most people won't even notice. However, if I were to read their site, I would certainly consider the sentence in question as evidence that the authors are stupid, which may affect me if I'm making a buying decision.

      Christian Graus - C++ MVP

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      Gary R Wheeler
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      The bad news: the barbarians are at the gates. The good news: they can't read the sign that says 'Entrance'.


      Software Zen: delete this;

      Fold With Us![^]

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      • C Christian Graus

        It's true, it doesn't actually matter, and the world is sliding into illiteracy anyhow, so most people won't even notice. However, if I were to read their site, I would certainly consider the sentence in question as evidence that the authors are stupid, which may affect me if I'm making a buying decision.

        Christian Graus - C++ MVP

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        Igor Vigdorchik
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I would certainly consider the sentence in question as evidence that the authors are stupid

        Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?

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        • I Igor Vigdorchik

          Christian Graus wrote:

          I would certainly consider the sentence in question as evidence that the authors are stupid

          Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?

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          Nish Nishant
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          Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

          Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?

          No, that's not what he's implying. But if someone who has never heard of either of them read that sentence, he'd probably form such an opinion.

          Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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          • M Michael Dunn

            PaulC1972 wrote:

            Passed the grammar checker in MS Word

            That says more about the grammer checker than the correctness of the sentence. ;)

            --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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            Paul Conrad
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            Michael Dunn wrote:

            That says more about the grammer checker than the correctness of the sentence.

            I was expecting it to say that the sentence needed to be revised or something like that. ;)

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            • M Mike_V

              Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^] "The Sysinternals web site was created in 1996 by Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell to host their advanced system utilities and technical information and Microsoft acquired Sysinternals in July, 2006." Seriously! Did somebody not proofread the FIRST SENTENCE on the website?! My first post from Vista! Mike

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              Garth J Lancaster
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              didnt you almost do similar to that with your opening sentence ?

              Mike_V wrote:

              Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^]

              "..to avoid, an example.. " if I was an asthmatic sucking hard for breath I might argue that would be better as "..to avoid. An example.." or am I being picky ? 'g'

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

                Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?

                No, that's not what he's implying. But if someone who has never heard of either of them read that sentence, he'd probably form such an opinion.

                Regards, Nish


                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                DaTxomin
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                Come on, nish, you are not being reasonable. A few years ago, I meet a guy that had gone to a conference to listen to the Dalai Lama. His thoughts on the experience were: "What can he teach me when he cannot even speak English" Who's the "stupid" one? That guy or the Dalai Lama? See my point?

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                  imho u r ar (anal retentive) if u r obsasa (offended by something as small as) a ros (run on sentanace). :)

                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                  Mike_V
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                  Just add like and um to run-on sentences in textspeak (or should that be lk and m? :)) and that would be murder! "win vsta is lk rly gr8 n stuf n i lk cnt w8 2 wrt lk prgs 4 it n i lk m wnt 2 use m sysint tls 2 und how it lk wks!" Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!

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                  • G Garth J Lancaster

                    didnt you almost do similar to that with your opening sentence ?

                    Mike_V wrote:

                    Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^]

                    "..to avoid, an example.. " if I was an asthmatic sucking hard for breath I might argue that would be better as "..to avoid. An example.." or am I being picky ? 'g'

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                    Mike_V
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                    It was intentional. :laugh:

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                    • M Mike_V

                      It was intentional. :laugh:

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                      Garth J Lancaster
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                      I had figured it out that you must have expected a reaction - but I wondered why no one else said anything (and I was taking the piss, of course - its one of our (Aussie) favourite sports :-) ) leastwise it made an interesting diversion while a group of us are in the office on a Sunday running DR tests 'g'

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                      • P Paul Conrad

                        The Sysinternals web site was created in 1996 by Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell to host their advanced system utilities and technical information and Microsoft acquired Sysinternals in July, 2006 Passed the grammar checker in MS Word :suss: This is even with the missing period at the end :~

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                        Mike_V
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                        Wow. That's about all I can say.

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                        • G Garth J Lancaster

                          I had figured it out that you must have expected a reaction - but I wondered why no one else said anything (and I was taking the piss, of course - its one of our (Aussie) favourite sports :-) ) leastwise it made an interesting diversion while a group of us are in the office on a Sunday running DR tests 'g'

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                          Mike_V
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                          Wow, posted -3mins ago? So is that Sunday in the past? (It's only Saturday here...) Or can Bob predict the future? :)

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                          • M Mike_V

                            It was intentional. :laugh:

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                            Rob Graham
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                            Yeah, right.

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                            • D DaTxomin

                              Come on, nish, you are not being reasonable. A few years ago, I meet a guy that had gone to a conference to listen to the Dalai Lama. His thoughts on the experience were: "What can he teach me when he cannot even speak English" Who's the "stupid" one? That guy or the Dalai Lama? See my point?

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              DaTxomin wrote:

                              See my point?

                              I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.

                              Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                              • G Garth J Lancaster

                                I had figured it out that you must have expected a reaction - but I wondered why no one else said anything (and I was taking the piss, of course - its one of our (Aussie) favourite sports :-) ) leastwise it made an interesting diversion while a group of us are in the office on a Sunday running DR tests 'g'

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                                f@ck me dead! :rolleyes:

                                I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                • M Mike_V

                                  Wow, posted -3mins ago? So is that Sunday in the past? (It's only Saturday here...) Or can Bob predict the future? :)

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                                  Garth J Lancaster
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                                  depending on where you are - lets say you're in the States (USA I mean) - you could be 18 to 22 hours behind us, so yes, Saturday for you IS Sunday for us .... we are GMT + 11 - you're likely to be GMT -(some factor) 'g'

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                                  • N Nish Nishant

                                    DaTxomin wrote:

                                    See my point?

                                    I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                                    Mike_V
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                                    Exactly. Not to mention that he most likely did not write that sentence.

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                                    • N Nish Nishant

                                      Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

                                      Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?

                                      No, that's not what he's implying. But if someone who has never heard of either of them read that sentence, he'd probably form such an opinion.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                                      Igor Vigdorchik
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                                      It's wrong. Don't judge a book by its cover.

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                                      • J JimmyRopes

                                        f@ck me dead! :rolleyes:

                                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                        Garth J Lancaster
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                                        no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is 'g'

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                                        • M Mike_V

                                          Just add like and um to run-on sentences in textspeak (or should that be lk and m? :)) and that would be murder! "win vsta is lk rly gr8 n stuf n i lk cnt w8 2 wrt lk prgs 4 it n i lk m wnt 2 use m sysint tls 2 und how it lk wks!" Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!

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                                          JimmyRopes
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                                          Mike_V said; "Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!" Excellent book! I would recommend it highly. :cool:

                                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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