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  • M Michael Dunn

    PaulC1972 wrote:

    Passed the grammar checker in MS Word

    That says more about the grammer checker than the correctness of the sentence. ;)

    --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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    Paul Conrad
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    Michael Dunn wrote:

    That says more about the grammer checker than the correctness of the sentence.

    I was expecting it to say that the sentence needed to be revised or something like that. ;)

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    • M Mike_V

      Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^] "The Sysinternals web site was created in 1996 by Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell to host their advanced system utilities and technical information and Microsoft acquired Sysinternals in July, 2006." Seriously! Did somebody not proofread the FIRST SENTENCE on the website?! My first post from Vista! Mike

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      Garth J Lancaster
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      didnt you almost do similar to that with your opening sentence ?

      Mike_V wrote:

      Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^]

      "..to avoid, an example.. " if I was an asthmatic sucking hard for breath I might argue that would be better as "..to avoid. An example.." or am I being picky ? 'g'

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      • N Nish Nishant

        Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

        Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?

        No, that's not what he's implying. But if someone who has never heard of either of them read that sentence, he'd probably form such an opinion.

        Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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        DaTxomin
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        Come on, nish, you are not being reasonable. A few years ago, I meet a guy that had gone to a conference to listen to the Dalai Lama. His thoughts on the experience were: "What can he teach me when he cannot even speak English" Who's the "stupid" one? That guy or the Dalai Lama? See my point?

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        • J JimmyRopes

          imho u r ar (anal retentive) if u r obsasa (offended by something as small as) a ros (run on sentanace). :)

          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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          Mike_V
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          Just add like and um to run-on sentences in textspeak (or should that be lk and m? :)) and that would be murder! "win vsta is lk rly gr8 n stuf n i lk cnt w8 2 wrt lk prgs 4 it n i lk m wnt 2 use m sysint tls 2 und how it lk wks!" Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!

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            didnt you almost do similar to that with your opening sentence ?

            Mike_V wrote:

            Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^]

            "..to avoid, an example.. " if I was an asthmatic sucking hard for breath I might argue that would be better as "..to avoid. An example.." or am I being picky ? 'g'

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            Mike_V
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            It was intentional. :laugh:

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            • M Mike_V

              It was intentional. :laugh:

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              Garth J Lancaster
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              I had figured it out that you must have expected a reaction - but I wondered why no one else said anything (and I was taking the piss, of course - its one of our (Aussie) favourite sports :-) ) leastwise it made an interesting diversion while a group of us are in the office on a Sunday running DR tests 'g'

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              • M Mike_V

                It was intentional. :laugh:

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                Rob Graham
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                Yeah, right.

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                • P Paul Conrad

                  The Sysinternals web site was created in 1996 by Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell to host their advanced system utilities and technical information and Microsoft acquired Sysinternals in July, 2006 Passed the grammar checker in MS Word :suss: This is even with the missing period at the end :~

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                  Mike_V
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                  Wow. That's about all I can say.

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                  • G Garth J Lancaster

                    I had figured it out that you must have expected a reaction - but I wondered why no one else said anything (and I was taking the piss, of course - its one of our (Aussie) favourite sports :-) ) leastwise it made an interesting diversion while a group of us are in the office on a Sunday running DR tests 'g'

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                    Mike_V
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                    Wow, posted -3mins ago? So is that Sunday in the past? (It's only Saturday here...) Or can Bob predict the future? :)

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                    • D DaTxomin

                      Come on, nish, you are not being reasonable. A few years ago, I meet a guy that had gone to a conference to listen to the Dalai Lama. His thoughts on the experience were: "What can he teach me when he cannot even speak English" Who's the "stupid" one? That guy or the Dalai Lama? See my point?

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      DaTxomin wrote:

                      See my point?

                      I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                      • G Garth J Lancaster

                        I had figured it out that you must have expected a reaction - but I wondered why no one else said anything (and I was taking the piss, of course - its one of our (Aussie) favourite sports :-) ) leastwise it made an interesting diversion while a group of us are in the office on a Sunday running DR tests 'g'

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                        JimmyRopes
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                        f@ck me dead! :rolleyes:

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          DaTxomin wrote:

                          See my point?

                          I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.

                          Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                          Mike_V
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                          Exactly. Not to mention that he most likely did not write that sentence.

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                          • M Mike_V

                            Wow, posted -3mins ago? So is that Sunday in the past? (It's only Saturday here...) Or can Bob predict the future? :)

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                            Garth J Lancaster
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                            depending on where you are - lets say you're in the States (USA I mean) - you could be 18 to 22 hours behind us, so yes, Saturday for you IS Sunday for us .... we are GMT + 11 - you're likely to be GMT -(some factor) 'g'

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                            • N Nish Nishant

                              Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

                              Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?

                              No, that's not what he's implying. But if someone who has never heard of either of them read that sentence, he'd probably form such an opinion.

                              Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                              Igor Vigdorchik
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                              It's wrong. Don't judge a book by its cover.

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                              • J JimmyRopes

                                f@ck me dead! :rolleyes:

                                I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                Garth J Lancaster
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                                no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is 'g'

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                                • M Mike_V

                                  Just add like and um to run-on sentences in textspeak (or should that be lk and m? :)) and that would be murder! "win vsta is lk rly gr8 n stuf n i lk cnt w8 2 wrt lk prgs 4 it n i lk m wnt 2 use m sysint tls 2 und how it lk wks!" Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!

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                                  JimmyRopes
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                                  Mike_V said; "Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!" Excellent book! I would recommend it highly. :cool:

                                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                  • M Mike_V

                                    Wow, posted -3mins ago? So is that Sunday in the past? (It's only Saturday here...) Or can Bob predict the future? :)

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                                    Paul Conrad
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                                    Mike_V wrote:

                                    posted -3mins ago?

                                    It has been happening off and on today with some of my posts. I've seen it happen in the past. I think Bob is playing with everyone :-D

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                                    • M Mike_V

                                      Wow. That's about all I can say.

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                                      Paul Conrad
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                                      :laugh:

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                                      • N Nish Nishant

                                        DaTxomin wrote:

                                        See my point?

                                        I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                                        DaTxomin
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                                        It is you who have change the issue. The original poster questioned the professionalism of sysinternals based on a single sentence. My objection is that such charge is extreme if not boderline hysterical. The issue that you are raising now is that PRECISELY because of the high level of professionalism (which the original poster questioned), the guys at sysinternals cannot afford a single mistake on a non-technical matter. I say we all make mistakes, some big some small, and so what? The bottom line is: Should it be fixed? Sure. Does it really matter or say anything whatsoever about sysinternals professionalism? Not in the least.

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                                        • G Garth J Lancaster

                                          no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is 'g'

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                                          Paul Conrad
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                                          Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                                          no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is

                                          :laugh:

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