Bad Sentences
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I had figured it out that you must have expected a reaction - but I wondered why no one else said anything (and I was taking the piss, of course - its one of our (Aussie) favourite sports :-) ) leastwise it made an interesting diversion while a group of us are in the office on a Sunday running DR tests 'g'
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Yeah, right.
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Come on, nish, you are not being reasonable. A few years ago, I meet a guy that had gone to a conference to listen to the Dalai Lama. His thoughts on the experience were: "What can he teach me when he cannot even speak English" Who's the "stupid" one? That guy or the Dalai Lama? See my point?
DaTxomin wrote:
See my point?
I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*) -
I had figured it out that you must have expected a reaction - but I wondered why no one else said anything (and I was taking the piss, of course - its one of our (Aussie) favourite sports :-) ) leastwise it made an interesting diversion while a group of us are in the office on a Sunday running DR tests 'g'
f@ck me dead! :rolleyes:
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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Wow, posted -3mins ago? So is that Sunday in the past? (It's only Saturday here...) Or can Bob predict the future? :)
depending on where you are - lets say you're in the States (USA I mean) - you could be 18 to 22 hours behind us, so yes, Saturday for you IS Sunday for us .... we are GMT + 11 - you're likely to be GMT -(some factor) 'g'
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DaTxomin wrote:
See my point?
I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*) -
Igor Vigdorchik wrote:
Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?
No, that's not what he's implying. But if someone who has never heard of either of them read that sentence, he'd probably form such an opinion.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)It's wrong. Don't judge a book by its cover.
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f@ck me dead! :rolleyes:
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is 'g'
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Just add like and um to run-on sentences in textspeak (or should that be lk and m? :)) and that would be murder! "win vsta is lk rly gr8 n stuf n i lk cnt w8 2 wrt lk prgs 4 it n i lk m wnt 2 use m sysint tls 2 und how it lk wks!" Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!
Mike_V said; "Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!" Excellent book! I would recommend it highly. :cool:
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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Wow, posted -3mins ago? So is that Sunday in the past? (It's only Saturday here...) Or can Bob predict the future? :)
Mike_V wrote:
posted -3mins ago?
It has been happening off and on today with some of my posts. I've seen it happen in the past. I think Bob is playing with everyone :-D
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:laugh:
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DaTxomin wrote:
See my point?
I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)It is you who have change the issue. The original poster questioned the professionalism of sysinternals based on a single sentence. My objection is that such charge is extreme if not boderline hysterical. The issue that you are raising now is that PRECISELY because of the high level of professionalism (which the original poster questioned), the guys at sysinternals cannot afford a single mistake on a non-technical matter. I say we all make mistakes, some big some small, and so what? The bottom line is: Should it be fixed? Sure. Does it really matter or say anything whatsoever about sysinternals professionalism? Not in the least.
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no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is 'g'
Garth J Lancaster wrote:
no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is
:laugh:
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f@ck me dead! :rolleyes:
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
JimmyRopes wrote:
f@ck me dead!
:omg::wtf:
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JimmyRopes wrote:
f@ck me dead!
:omg::wtf:
You have to be from Az, or have friends from Az, to understand it. I have friends from Az! :~
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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You have to be from Az, or have friends from Az, to understand it. I have friends from Az! :~
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
JimmyRopes wrote:
You have to be from Az or have friends from Az to understand it.
Okay, it was just really eye-popping to see that message :laugh:
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It is you who have change the issue. The original poster questioned the professionalism of sysinternals based on a single sentence. My objection is that such charge is extreme if not boderline hysterical. The issue that you are raising now is that PRECISELY because of the high level of professionalism (which the original poster questioned), the guys at sysinternals cannot afford a single mistake on a non-technical matter. I say we all make mistakes, some big some small, and so what? The bottom line is: Should it be fixed? Sure. Does it really matter or say anything whatsoever about sysinternals professionalism? Not in the least.
I did not question the professionalism of Sysinternals - rather, I pointed out a mistake of the editor or whoever wrote the sentence, which I highly doubt was Mark himself. I have nothing but the deepest respect for Mark and Bryce. Their utilities are absolutely amazing, and their books are also amazing. Even if one of the Sysinternals guys wrote that sentence, it is just a human mistake. Understandable. In any case, it is jsut a bit humorous since everything I have ever seen from Sysinternals is always of the highest quality. It just shows we all make mistakes. Mike
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DaTxomin wrote:
anal-retentive snobbery
If you don't value correctness, you are part of the problem.
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
I think the point wasn't to dismiss mistakes, but rather to realize that people make them.
BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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I did not question the professionalism of Sysinternals - rather, I pointed out a mistake of the editor or whoever wrote the sentence, which I highly doubt was Mark himself. I have nothing but the deepest respect for Mark and Bryce. Their utilities are absolutely amazing, and their books are also amazing. Even if one of the Sysinternals guys wrote that sentence, it is just a human mistake. Understandable. In any case, it is jsut a bit humorous since everything I have ever seen from Sysinternals is always of the highest quality. It just shows we all make mistakes. Mike
Mike_V wrote:
I pointed out a mistake
Why did you point it out here instead of sending an email to them?
Mike_V wrote:
In any case, it is jsut a bit humorous
Really? How so?
Mike_V wrote:
I have nothing but the deepest respect for Mark and Bryce
In my opinion you just made fun of Mark and Bryce and by doing so you showed them the disrespect.
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Mike_V wrote:
I pointed out a mistake
Why did you point it out here instead of sending an email to them?
Mike_V wrote:
In any case, it is jsut a bit humorous
Really? How so?
Mike_V wrote:
I have nothing but the deepest respect for Mark and Bryce
In my opinion you just made fun of Mark and Bryce and by doing so you showed them the disrespect.
I guess humorous was probably the wrong word. What I meant was that everything they do is of soch high quality that even the slightest mistake, however minor, stands out. Again, it is just a mistake. And my original post was good-natured. I didn't make fun of them. (If I had wanted to criticize them, the OP would have been worded much differently.) Or if you didn't see that, maybe a smiley would have helped.
