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  • N Nish Nishant

    Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

    Are you implying that Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell are stupid?

    No, that's not what he's implying. But if someone who has never heard of either of them read that sentence, he'd probably form such an opinion.

    Regards, Nish


    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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    Igor Vigdorchik
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    It's wrong. Don't judge a book by its cover.

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      Just add like and um to run-on sentences in textspeak (or should that be lk and m? :)) and that would be murder! "win vsta is lk rly gr8 n stuf n i lk cnt w8 2 wrt lk prgs 4 it n i lk m wnt 2 use m sysint tls 2 und how it lk wks!" Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!

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      JimmyRopes
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      Mike_V said; "Lynne Truss[^] would throw a fit!" Excellent book! I would recommend it highly. :cool:

      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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      • M Mike_V

        Wow, posted -3mins ago? So is that Sunday in the past? (It's only Saturday here...) Or can Bob predict the future? :)

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        Paul Conrad
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        Mike_V wrote:

        posted -3mins ago?

        It has been happening off and on today with some of my posts. I've seen it happen in the past. I think Bob is playing with everyone :-D

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        • M Mike_V

          Wow. That's about all I can say.

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          Paul Conrad
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          :laugh:

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          • N Nish Nishant

            DaTxomin wrote:

            See my point?

            I see the point in your example, but I don't think that maps to the issue we are discussing. Everyone knows Mark is a smart guy. But because he's a smart guy, and because he's seen as one of the world's best experts on Windows programming, people expect a level of professionalism from anything related to him, including his website. No one here complains that my website uses crappy grammar :-) My point is that, when you are as publicly acknowledged as Mark is, people set higher standards for you. I guess it's part of the celeb hood that those guys have earned for themselves.

            Regards, Nish


            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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            DaTxomin
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            It is you who have change the issue. The original poster questioned the professionalism of sysinternals based on a single sentence. My objection is that such charge is extreme if not boderline hysterical. The issue that you are raising now is that PRECISELY because of the high level of professionalism (which the original poster questioned), the guys at sysinternals cannot afford a single mistake on a non-technical matter. I say we all make mistakes, some big some small, and so what? The bottom line is: Should it be fixed? Sure. Does it really matter or say anything whatsoever about sysinternals professionalism? Not in the least.

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              no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is 'g'

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              Paul Conrad
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              Garth J Lancaster wrote:

              no thanks - we have enough trouble as it is

              :laugh:

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              • J JimmyRopes

                f@ck me dead! :rolleyes:

                I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                Paul Conrad
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                JimmyRopes wrote:

                f@ck me dead!

                :omg::wtf:

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                • P Paul Conrad

                  JimmyRopes wrote:

                  f@ck me dead!

                  :omg::wtf:

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                  JimmyRopes
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                  You have to be from Az, or have friends from Az, to understand it. I have friends from Az! :~

                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                  • J JimmyRopes

                    You have to be from Az, or have friends from Az, to understand it. I have friends from Az! :~

                    I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                    Paul Conrad
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                    JimmyRopes wrote:

                    You have to be from Az or have friends from Az to understand it.

                    Okay, it was just really eye-popping to see that message :laugh:

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                    • D DaTxomin

                      It is you who have change the issue. The original poster questioned the professionalism of sysinternals based on a single sentence. My objection is that such charge is extreme if not boderline hysterical. The issue that you are raising now is that PRECISELY because of the high level of professionalism (which the original poster questioned), the guys at sysinternals cannot afford a single mistake on a non-technical matter. I say we all make mistakes, some big some small, and so what? The bottom line is: Should it be fixed? Sure. Does it really matter or say anything whatsoever about sysinternals professionalism? Not in the least.

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                      Mike_V
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                      I did not question the professionalism of Sysinternals - rather, I pointed out a mistake of the editor or whoever wrote the sentence, which I highly doubt was Mark himself. I have nothing but the deepest respect for Mark and Bryce. Their utilities are absolutely amazing, and their books are also amazing. Even if one of the Sysinternals guys wrote that sentence, it is just a human mistake. Understandable. In any case, it is jsut a bit humorous since everything I have ever seen from Sysinternals is always of the highest quality. It just shows we all make mistakes. Mike

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                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                        DaTxomin wrote:

                        anal-retentive snobbery

                        If you don't value correctness, you are part of the problem.

                        -------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke

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                        brianwelsch
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                        I think the point wasn't to dismiss mistakes, but rather to realize that people make them.

                        BW


                        If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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                        • M Mike_V

                          I did not question the professionalism of Sysinternals - rather, I pointed out a mistake of the editor or whoever wrote the sentence, which I highly doubt was Mark himself. I have nothing but the deepest respect for Mark and Bryce. Their utilities are absolutely amazing, and their books are also amazing. Even if one of the Sysinternals guys wrote that sentence, it is just a human mistake. Understandable. In any case, it is jsut a bit humorous since everything I have ever seen from Sysinternals is always of the highest quality. It just shows we all make mistakes. Mike

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                          Igor Vigdorchik
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                          Mike_V wrote:

                          I pointed out a mistake

                          Why did you point it out here instead of sending an email to them?

                          Mike_V wrote:

                          In any case, it is jsut a bit humorous

                          Really? How so?

                          Mike_V wrote:

                          I have nothing but the deepest respect for Mark and Bryce

                          In my opinion you just made fun of Mark and Bryce and by doing so you showed them the disrespect.

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                            Mike_V wrote:

                            I pointed out a mistake

                            Why did you point it out here instead of sending an email to them?

                            Mike_V wrote:

                            In any case, it is jsut a bit humorous

                            Really? How so?

                            Mike_V wrote:

                            I have nothing but the deepest respect for Mark and Bryce

                            In my opinion you just made fun of Mark and Bryce and by doing so you showed them the disrespect.

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                            Mike_V
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                            I guess humorous was probably the wrong word. What I meant was that everything they do is of soch high quality that even the slightest mistake, however minor, stands out. Again, it is just a mistake. And my original post was good-natured. I didn't make fun of them. (If I had wanted to criticize them, the OP would have been worded much differently.) Or if you didn't see that, maybe a smiley would have helped.

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                            • P Paul Conrad

                              JimmyRopes wrote:

                              You have to be from Az or have friends from Az to understand it.

                              Okay, it was just really eye-popping to see that message :laugh:

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              Actually, I should have said "f@ck me dead, mate". :omg: You would have to hear my friend's wife Nit (Nittaya, a Thai national) use it to understand all the implications. :rolleyes: Actually, Gary, her husband (originally from Sydney) had to hush her a few times when they went to Az to visit with his family a few months back. She didn't know when it was appropriate to say it and when it wasn't. :wtf: Apparently, if you are male it is appropriate anytime but if you are female it isn't. As with any other cultural convention, that you didn't grow up using, I am still learning. :laugh:

                              I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                Actually, I should have said "f@ck me dead, mate". :omg: You would have to hear my friend's wife Nit (Nittaya, a Thai national) use it to understand all the implications. :rolleyes: Actually, Gary, her husband (originally from Sydney) had to hush her a few times when they went to Az to visit with his family a few months back. She didn't know when it was appropriate to say it and when it wasn't. :wtf: Apparently, if you are male it is appropriate anytime but if you are female it isn't. As with any other cultural convention, that you didn't grow up using, I am still learning. :laugh:

                                I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                Paul Conrad
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                                JimmyRopes wrote:

                                She didn't know when it was appropriate to say it and when it wasn't.

                                :wtf: here too :)

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                                • D DaTxomin

                                  Well, make sure you don't miss a SINGLE coma or you are doomed. There are those that would consider you stupid and unprofessional. What's more important, whatever the quality of your work, it will be dismissed right off. If you don't value common sense, the problem will be yours.

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                                  DaTxomin wrote:

                                  Well, make sure you don't miss a SINGLE coma or you are doomed.

                                  Personally, I like to side step every coma that appears in front of me.

                                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                    Mike_V wrote:

                                    Did somebody not proofread the FIRST SENTENCE on the website?!

                                    Yes. Unfortunately, that somebody was a 7yr-old girl, and thus didn't see a problem...

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                                    A 7 year old girl on speed? :omg:


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                                    • M Mike_V

                                      Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^] "The Sysinternals web site was created in 1996 by Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell to host their advanced system utilities and technical information and Microsoft acquired Sysinternals in July, 2006." Seriously! Did somebody not proofread the FIRST SENTENCE on the website?! My first post from Vista! Mike

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                                      Todd Smith
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                                      Mike_V wrote:

                                      Run-on sentences are bad and run-ons make a website or any document look unprofessional and they are easy to avoid, an example of a run-on sentence can be found at http://www.sysinternals.com[^]

                                      There's another good example...

                                      Todd Smith

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                                      • D DaTxomin

                                        It is you who have change the issue. The original poster questioned the professionalism of sysinternals based on a single sentence. My objection is that such charge is extreme if not boderline hysterical. The issue that you are raising now is that PRECISELY because of the high level of professionalism (which the original poster questioned), the guys at sysinternals cannot afford a single mistake on a non-technical matter. I say we all make mistakes, some big some small, and so what? The bottom line is: Should it be fixed? Sure. Does it really matter or say anything whatsoever about sysinternals professionalism? Not in the least.

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                                        David Wulff
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                                        How you have the nerve to call people anal retentive when you read your own contribution to this thread is amazing.


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                                        • I Igor Vigdorchik

                                          It's wrong. Don't judge a book by its cover.

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

                                          It's wrong. Don't judge a book by its cover.

                                          Whether right or wrong, a lot of books are judged that way. Which is why most publishers put a lot of effort into cover design :-)

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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