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  • C cnhnyu

    I born in China. And I live in China for 20 years and more. I love this country, and I love the greate people in this country, but I hate the ruler, and I hate the government. It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country. The government is very very corrupt. Citizens in this country have no free speech. The media never report the facts. It stands the profits of the ruler and dusts the eyes of its citizens. In this country, citizens can NOT afford their children's education fees. Citizens have no money to see the doctor, because the fees are too high to afford. And citizens can NOT afford enough money to buy a house which can only live for 70 years. Citizens in this country can NOT move from one place to another freely. If you want to move to another place, you should support some certifications. For example, citizens who are not in Shenzhen want to go to that place, you should buy a certification. Besides those I mentioned, there are many many things which make you feels as if you live in hell but in fact you live in China.:mad: :((

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    I know that there is a lot of corruption and organised crime. I also know that 100000's of people have come here to Australia from China looking for a better life and have contributed a lot to our country. I just wish you would leave your MSG at home :)

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      cnhnyu wrote:

      I born in China. And I live in China for 20 years and more. I love this country, and I love the great people in this country

      I was there for a project a couple of years ago. Since I was working, I didn't get the chance to visit Beijing or other city. I was in a little town near Shanghai (or so I was told). The people are really beautiful, while walking in this town some people chased me because it was obvious I was a foreigner, and they told me things that -of course- i didn't understand until I became friend of a 20 year old girl who spoke english and began to translate me what they were saying. In a market, an old woman gave me a jellyfish as a gift when she was told that I was mexican, hehe. Curious. The culture of the country is amazing, and you count it in millenniums. The food was a really weird thing. I'm used to spicy food with meat, cheese and lemons, definitely non-healthy. And everything there is healthy: seafood, jellyfishes, rice and other stuff (I didn't have enough courage to ask for its name). But I was delighted with the country, and I'm making all my efforts to go back for the Olympic Games in 2008.

      cnhnyu wrote:

      but I hate the ruler, and I hate the government

      Yeah, well, as I see it you have two options. Either you start a revolution which probably will end with this government (of course, no guarantees that the next one will be better) but also will end million of lives, or work hard everyday to change the country, which is the hardest and longest way. In 1910 here in Mexico, we started a revolution, with catastrophical results: 10% of the population died, the country's economy was devastated and everything we built over the 19th century was nearly lost. In exchange, we had 30 years of fight between different politicians and zero stability. In 1929 all this fellows created a party that endured in power for 71 years, as a party dictatorship. Corruption, endless devaluation of our money and inflation, authoritarianism and deaths (the most famous, the murderer of students in 1968, few days before the Olympic Games). However, we didn't do the same mistake of the revolution. Until finally, in 2000 we had fully democratic elections and the revolutionary party finally was defeated. In 2006, we had another democratic elections, and it seems that such party was buried forever. Now we are working hard, trying to catch up with modernity, trying to recover a lost centur

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      Thank you very much. I found that people who reply my question have a very positive attitude against life, which makes me realize that I should work hard and have less complaint. Complaint brings me nothing but annoyance. From today on, I will keep working harder and try my best to change my life, change my fate.

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        I know that there is a lot of corruption and organised crime. I also know that 100000's of people have come here to Australia from China looking for a better life and have contributed a lot to our country. I just wish you would leave your MSG at home :)

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        Can you tell me what is 'MSG' ?

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          Can you tell me what is 'MSG' ?

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          cnhnyu wrote:

          Can you tell me what is 'MSG' ?

          wèijīng?[^] Its a chemical used in Chinese cooking to make the meat softer and more tender, its really bad for you and a lot of people have allergic reactions to it. Its very hard to find a Chinese restaurant here that does not use it

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            Can you tell me what is 'MSG' ?

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            Commonly MSG or rather msg= Message but it can also be.. Marketing Systems Group or Madison Square Garden or Mono Sodium Glutamate or ..... or ..... Comment is misleading

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              cnhnyu wrote:

              Can you tell me what is 'MSG' ?

              wèijīng?[^] Its a chemical used in Chinese cooking to make the meat softer and more tender, its really bad for you and a lot of people have allergic reactions to it. Its very hard to find a Chinese restaurant here that does not use it

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              cnhnyu
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              Josh Gray wrote:

              Its very hard to find a Chinese restaurant here that does not use it

              That's right. MSG in Chinese we say "味精" as a kind of seasoning in Chinese cooking. Many Chinese people like it and are used to it. I just eat it a little, much MSG makes dishes taste sweet.

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              • C cnhnyu

                I born in China. And I live in China for 20 years and more. I love this country, and I love the greate people in this country, but I hate the ruler, and I hate the government. It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country. The government is very very corrupt. Citizens in this country have no free speech. The media never report the facts. It stands the profits of the ruler and dusts the eyes of its citizens. In this country, citizens can NOT afford their children's education fees. Citizens have no money to see the doctor, because the fees are too high to afford. And citizens can NOT afford enough money to buy a house which can only live for 70 years. Citizens in this country can NOT move from one place to another freely. If you want to move to another place, you should support some certifications. For example, citizens who are not in Shenzhen want to go to that place, you should buy a certification. Besides those I mentioned, there are many many things which make you feels as if you live in hell but in fact you live in China.:mad: :((

                Don't let habit prevent you from trying something new.

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                It looks pretty cool to me on TV and there are many admirable things about China. From what I understand though there are so many rapid social changes going on there right now that there is a lot of turmoil and people are not comfortable with change for the most part, particularly rapid change.

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                • C cnhnyu

                  Thank you. But I think most of citizens in China can nerver live better if they are ruled by the current Party. Because in China, many many things which are solved NOT by your abilities but your relations. The "relations" makes things in China are very unfair. And the "relations" make some people become very rich and make other people become very poor.

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                  I can only hope the economic changes help to open things up and increase personal freedoms because increased conrtact with the rest of the world is required. As to relations counting more then abilities, this is something the people have to change. Even if you makea very small change in that, it is a change. Elaine :rose:

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                  • C cnhnyu

                    I born in China. And I live in China for 20 years and more. I love this country, and I love the greate people in this country, but I hate the ruler, and I hate the government. It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country. The government is very very corrupt. Citizens in this country have no free speech. The media never report the facts. It stands the profits of the ruler and dusts the eyes of its citizens. In this country, citizens can NOT afford their children's education fees. Citizens have no money to see the doctor, because the fees are too high to afford. And citizens can NOT afford enough money to buy a house which can only live for 70 years. Citizens in this country can NOT move from one place to another freely. If you want to move to another place, you should support some certifications. For example, citizens who are not in Shenzhen want to go to that place, you should buy a certification. Besides those I mentioned, there are many many things which make you feels as if you live in hell but in fact you live in China.:mad: :((

                    Don't let habit prevent you from trying something new.

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                    cnhnyu wrote:

                    It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country

                    i'm curious to know what you think of north corea then ?! :)


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                    • C cnhnyu

                      I born in China. And I live in China for 20 years and more. I love this country, and I love the greate people in this country, but I hate the ruler, and I hate the government. It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country. The government is very very corrupt. Citizens in this country have no free speech. The media never report the facts. It stands the profits of the ruler and dusts the eyes of its citizens. In this country, citizens can NOT afford their children's education fees. Citizens have no money to see the doctor, because the fees are too high to afford. And citizens can NOT afford enough money to buy a house which can only live for 70 years. Citizens in this country can NOT move from one place to another freely. If you want to move to another place, you should support some certifications. For example, citizens who are not in Shenzhen want to go to that place, you should buy a certification. Besides those I mentioned, there are many many things which make you feels as if you live in hell but in fact you live in China.:mad: :((

                      Don't let habit prevent you from trying something new.

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                      I don't know enough about China to think much of it. I saw a documentary once about how male children are hugely preferred, and because of the child-limit, couples try to abort female fetoeses etc. Is that correct?

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                      • C cnhnyu

                        I born in China. And I live in China for 20 years and more. I love this country, and I love the greate people in this country, but I hate the ruler, and I hate the government. It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country. The government is very very corrupt. Citizens in this country have no free speech. The media never report the facts. It stands the profits of the ruler and dusts the eyes of its citizens. In this country, citizens can NOT afford their children's education fees. Citizens have no money to see the doctor, because the fees are too high to afford. And citizens can NOT afford enough money to buy a house which can only live for 70 years. Citizens in this country can NOT move from one place to another freely. If you want to move to another place, you should support some certifications. For example, citizens who are not in Shenzhen want to go to that place, you should buy a certification. Besides those I mentioned, there are many many things which make you feels as if you live in hell but in fact you live in China.:mad: :((

                        Don't let habit prevent you from trying something new.

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                        Its changing, quite fast. HAng on in there and in another 20 years you wil have the freedom you want. And in any case, all governmemnt is corrupt, they all rip us off, and al lie to us, so dont expect any imoprovement in that area. As for media and facts, well thats also a problem in the west too. House buying? You should se the UK!

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                        • C cnhnyu

                          I born in China. And I live in China for 20 years and more. I love this country, and I love the greate people in this country, but I hate the ruler, and I hate the government. It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country. The government is very very corrupt. Citizens in this country have no free speech. The media never report the facts. It stands the profits of the ruler and dusts the eyes of its citizens. In this country, citizens can NOT afford their children's education fees. Citizens have no money to see the doctor, because the fees are too high to afford. And citizens can NOT afford enough money to buy a house which can only live for 70 years. Citizens in this country can NOT move from one place to another freely. If you want to move to another place, you should support some certifications. For example, citizens who are not in Shenzhen want to go to that place, you should buy a certification. Besides those I mentioned, there are many many things which make you feels as if you live in hell but in fact you live in China.:mad: :((

                          Don't let habit prevent you from trying something new.

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                          I think there's a couple of problems with China... 1) It consumes too much land mass. They're exercising monopolistic control and they need to be sued. 2) There's too many chinese people there. I mean seriously - just because it's called China doesn't mean most of the world's chinese have to live there. 3) Almost nobody there speaks english. Of course, almost nobody in the U.S. speaks english either.

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                          • C cnhnyu

                            I born in China. And I live in China for 20 years and more. I love this country, and I love the greate people in this country, but I hate the ruler, and I hate the government. It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country. The government is very very corrupt. Citizens in this country have no free speech. The media never report the facts. It stands the profits of the ruler and dusts the eyes of its citizens. In this country, citizens can NOT afford their children's education fees. Citizens have no money to see the doctor, because the fees are too high to afford. And citizens can NOT afford enough money to buy a house which can only live for 70 years. Citizens in this country can NOT move from one place to another freely. If you want to move to another place, you should support some certifications. For example, citizens who are not in Shenzhen want to go to that place, you should buy a certification. Besides those I mentioned, there are many many things which make you feels as if you live in hell but in fact you live in China.:mad: :((

                            Don't let habit prevent you from trying something new.

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                            The only heartening thing is the number of people who have withdrawn their membership from the ruling CCP (Chinese communist party) as atrocities become known through publications such as The Epoch Times http://www.theepochtimes.com/ [link was timing out when i tested it, sorry]. I love china, my family doesn't hail from there but my mum has always had a love for the culture & country, and I have grown up in a house with much Chinese art and literature. She recently came back from a 5 week stint teaching English. I also have a wonderful chinese sister-in-law. I know a lot of other people don't have this kind of up-bringing, but it shows that we all need to support each other no matter where we come from. Australia should have more of a conscience when trading with China. It should think carefully before deciding to support and deal with an oppressive regime, without supporting the people upon which the regime imposes. Peace! :-D -Estheral

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                              cnhnyu wrote:

                              It tells you that it's a democracy country, as a mater of fact, it is an autarchy country

                              i'm curious to know what you think of north corea then ?! :)


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                              toxcct wrote:

                              i'm curious to know what you think of north corea then ?!

                              As much as I know, it's much worse than China. The people of North Corea lives in a misery.When I'm a child, the schoolbook tells me that the capitalism is a devil, and the socialism is very beautiful. But When I grow up, I find that it is a lie.The government befools me, and befools all people. I would never believe the socialism which the ruler said. They said the official serve the people heart and soul, but in fact they heist people heart and soul. They are just a flock of robbers.

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                                I don't know enough about China to think much of it. I saw a documentary once about how male children are hugely preferred, and because of the child-limit, couples try to abort female fetoeses etc. Is that correct?

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                                Ashley van Gerven wrote:

                                I don't know enough about China to think much of it. I saw a documentary once about how male children are hugely preferred, and because of the child-limit, couples try to abort female fetoeses etc. Is that correct?

                                Yes, it is very common in China. Because the male is the main labour force of a family, if a couple don't have a male child, no people will support the rest of their life.

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                                • C cnhnyu

                                  Thank you very much. I found that people who reply my question have a very positive attitude against life, which makes me realize that I should work hard and have less complaint. Complaint brings me nothing but annoyance. From today on, I will keep working harder and try my best to change my life, change my fate.

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                                  cnhnyu said; "From today on, I will keep working harder and try my best to change my life, change my fate" You can change your life but you can not change your fate. You were born to have your fate! You would not be you without your fate.

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                                    cnhnyu wrote:

                                    The "relations" makes things in China are very unfair.

                                    You speaks for me.. I have never been to China, but when it comes to the matter above it is same over here in Sri Lanka..

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                                    I think its more or less same everywhere. In India also, it's a bitter fact.

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                                      I think its more or less same everywhere. In India also, it's a bitter fact.

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                                      Yep, I know India. I think it is not same, it is worst in the sub continent :|

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                                        Yep, I know India. I think it is not same, it is worst in the sub continent :|

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                                        Seems like u lived in India for longer time. In India, we have apprx 30 states. So The local govenrment and rulers change state to state, and so does the importance of relations and amount of corruption. In the state where I live, corruption relatively less. Ofcourse I am proud of being Indian.

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                                          Seems like u lived in India for longer time. In India, we have apprx 30 states. So The local govenrment and rulers change state to state, and so does the importance of relations and amount of corruption. In the state where I live, corruption relatively less. Ofcourse I am proud of being Indian.

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                                          a.mulay wrote:

                                          Seems like u lived in India for longer time.

                                          Nope, but I have been to India few times recently, of course some of our ancestors were living in north India some thousand years ago .. Great histories and and and .. I cannot stop it if I started.. These part of the world is going through a rough period now.. but it is just a one side of the circle.. and also it is a matter of what definitions you take to measure certain things. I know all change all the time..

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                                          In the state where I live, corruption relatively less.

                                          :laugh: OKK!!

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                                          Ofcourse I am proud of being Indian.

                                          Indeed you should love your country and also can be proud about it. I love my country and also proud about it too..

                                          L.W.C. Nirosh. Colombo, Sri Lanka.

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