Question about melatonin [modified]
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When winter came here I went out and bought the brightest compact flourescent lightbulbs I could afford and put them everywhere in the house, it's bright as day inside now and I find it makes a huge difference when you live in a bleak and dreary winter climate with no sunshine. I sleep better at night and feel awake in the morning. Last winter I felt pretty crappy pretty much until spring. I don't know about melatonin though, I know a guy who works on shifts and takes it and he says it helps with rotating shifts where he moves from one time period to another. Personally I avoid all medication unless it's absolutlely necessary. I don't even take an aspirin unless my headache is near migrane proportions. Alcohol though I consume quite regularly so I guess I don't avoid all medication. :)
John Cardinal wrote:
I don't even take an aspirin unless my headache is near migrane proportions.
A man after my own heart!
John Cardinal wrote:
Alcohol though I consume quite regularly so I guess I don't avoid all medication.
A man after my own heart! ;P
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
melatonin
If that's a fancy word for whiskey, then yes. ;P
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John Cardinal wrote:
I wanted to say that but I felt like it would probably be ignored or had already been tried. I personally think people take way too much medication without addressing problems that are the root of their need to take it, but it's like yelling "soylent green is people" no one's going to listen in this day and age.
Exercise never seemed to help me much. Melatonin is a natural hormone produced by the penil gland in the center of your brain and it secretes th hormone at night and puts you to sleep. It is nothing like Xanax or Ambien.
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Captain See SharpExercise never seemed to help me much.
Were you actually exercising or pretending to so you could fool yourself? Not being mean, but let's get serious. If you don't get to sleep when you have a regular exercise schedule then you're not on a schedule and/or you don't have a normal sleep schedule. Barring that, I'd check your stress level too. If you can't relax at night it will always be harder to go to sleep.
Captain See SharpMelatonin is a natural hormone
This is marketing hoopla people fall for. Even natural substances in unnatural proportions is dangerous. Don't believe me? As a male, go start popping estrogen pills way too much even though you already have it in your own body. Let's not forget the little telltale signs like unnatural side effects too. This should clue you in.
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John Cardinal wrote:
I wanted to say that but I felt like it would probably be ignored or had already been tried. I personally think people take way too much medication without addressing problems that are the root of their need to take it, but it's like yelling "soylent green is people" no one's going to listen in this day and age.
Exercise never seemed to help me much. Melatonin is a natural hormone produced by the penil gland in the center of your brain and it secretes th hormone at night and puts you to sleep. It is nothing like Xanax or Ambien.
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Captain See SharpIt is nothing like Xanax or Ambien.
Complete rubbish, the fact that it appears in the body naturally does not change the fact it is a drug. Remember the people selling and promoting this stuff are out to make a profit, that is their only aim and that why they keep telling you its natural. It might be natural but its not natural to supliment what the body produces. Guess what? all drugs are made from or derived from naturally occuring substances. See a doctor
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How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006
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A friend of mine used to travel to Europe alot and said melatonin helped with jet lag. It has no effect on me.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Shog9 wrote:
whiskey
Unfortunately I am considered to be not old enough to buy or drink it which makes it difficult for me to get.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Unfortunately I am considered to be not old enough to buy or drink it which makes it difficult for me to get.
Then, i'll second Jeremy's suggestion of exercise. While side-effects like being healthy and spry can become unpleasant at times, you're probably young enough to tolerate it.
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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Captain See SharpIt is nothing like Xanax or Ambien.
Complete rubbish, the fact that it appears in the body naturally does not change the fact it is a drug. Remember the people selling and promoting this stuff are out to make a profit, that is their only aim and that why they keep telling you its natural. It might be natural but its not natural to supliment what the body produces. Guess what? all drugs are made from or derived from naturally occuring substances. See a doctor
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Josh Gray wrote:
Remember the people selling and promoting this stuff are out to make a profit
And "All Natural" is one of the latest and greatest catchphrases they love to use now.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Unfortunately I am considered to be not old enough to buy or drink it which makes it difficult for me to get.
Then, i'll second Jeremy's suggestion of exercise. While side-effects like being healthy and spry can become unpleasant at times, you're probably young enough to tolerate it.
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
Shog9 wrote:
you're probably young enough to tolerate it.
And at his age (assuming teenage years) the body is practically begging to adapt and change to anything you put it through. Waiting until he's 50 to change lifestyles won't be near as easy.
Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]
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When winter came here I went out and bought the brightest compact flourescent lightbulbs I could afford and put them everywhere in the house, it's bright as day inside now and I find it makes a huge difference when you live in a bleak and dreary winter climate with no sunshine. I sleep better at night and feel awake in the morning. Last winter I felt pretty crappy pretty much until spring. I don't know about melatonin though, I know a guy who works on shifts and takes it and he says it helps with rotating shifts where he moves from one time period to another. Personally I avoid all medication unless it's absolutlely necessary. I don't even take an aspirin unless my headache is near migrane proportions. Alcohol though I consume quite regularly so I guess I don't avoid all medication. :)
John Cardinal wrote:
When winter came here I went out and bought the brightest compact flourescent lightbulbs I could afford and put them everywhere in the house, it's bright as day inside now and I find it makes a huge difference when you live in a bleak and dreary winter climate with no sunshine.
How's the flicker? I'd like to try something like that, but the flicker of most fluorescent fixtures annoys the heck out of me, and the price of keeping scores of halogen fixtures blazing gives me pause.
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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Shog9 wrote:
you're probably young enough to tolerate it.
And at his age (assuming teenage years) the body is practically begging to adapt and change to anything you put it through. Waiting until he's 50 to change lifestyles won't be near as easy.
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Yeah... i was trying to be low-key. :->
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
doctors will just grow me a new one.
Crazy to think that may be true in the not so distant future.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Crazy to think that may be true in the not so distant future.
Not in my lifetime. :) Though I would be happy if they could grow a new pancreas, not for me, I will survive (plus this was partly my fault for giving up and letting the illness destroy me), but my girlfriend got her diabetes as a teen, she has rarely known life without insulin.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006
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I've tried it as a way to get over jetlag and it did absolutely nothing for me.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Yeah... i was trying to be low-key. :->
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
Shog9 wrote:
Yeah... i was trying to be low-key.
Well you know me; me and low-key don't mix. :-D
Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]
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How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006
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Captain See SharpI was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP
The only thing you can do thats worse than self-medication is combining medications. If you feel depressed, anxious or down address the problem by talking to someone. Go see a doctor and ask for a referal to a counsellor. Treat the cause not the symptom
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Captain See SharpExercise never seemed to help me much.
Were you actually exercising or pretending to so you could fool yourself? Not being mean, but let's get serious. If you don't get to sleep when you have a regular exercise schedule then you're not on a schedule and/or you don't have a normal sleep schedule. Barring that, I'd check your stress level too. If you can't relax at night it will always be harder to go to sleep.
Captain See SharpMelatonin is a natural hormone
This is marketing hoopla people fall for. Even natural substances in unnatural proportions is dangerous. Don't believe me? As a male, go start popping estrogen pills way too much even though you already have it in your own body. Let's not forget the little telltale signs like unnatural side effects too. This should clue you in.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Were you actually exercising or pretending to so you could fool yourself?
I used to walk to work and school(a good 30-40 minute walk) every day for about a year. Of course it made me very sleepy, especially after walking in the snow or cold rain. It did not help me get to sleep at night when I needed to sleep.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
This is marketing hoopla people fall for. Even natural substances in unnatural proportions is dangerous. Don't believe me? As a male, go start popping estrogen pills way too much even though you already have it in your own body. Let's not forget the little telltale signs like unnatural side effects too. This should clue you in.
I am well aware of the side effects of many drugs. The final thing that made me want to go ahead and try it was this site. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Melatonin.shtml[^]
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Crazy to think that may be true in the not so distant future.
Not in my lifetime. :) Though I would be happy if they could grow a new pancreas, not for me, I will survive (plus this was partly my fault for giving up and letting the illness destroy me), but my girlfriend got her diabetes as a teen, she has rarely known life without insulin.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
I will survive
Been listening to Tina Turner have we? ;P
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
(plus this was partly my fault for giving up and letting the illness destroy me), but my girlfriend got her diabetes as a teen, she has rarely known life without insulin.
I have to tell you, one of the kids I met back in the 90s that I was most sorry for (there's a lot in the world no doubt but I met this one, so it was made real to me), was a kid named Forest who was born with Diabetes. I don't know how he's doing now, but the doctors said he'd most likely be blind as a teenager and die in his 20's. Crazy to think I'm almost 30 and not dead yet. I suppose the best thing we can do in these situations is not forget and don't take life for granted.
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Captain See SharpI was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP
The only thing you can do thats worse than self-medication is combining medications. If you feel depressed, anxious or down address the problem by talking to someone. Go see a doctor and ask for a referal to a counsellor. Treat the cause not the symptom
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Josh Gray wrote:
Go see a doctor and ask for a referal to a counsellor.
I have and was prescribed Zoloft X| I did not enjoy quarter sized pupils and a spaced out feeling all day everyday. I quickly stopped taking it and never seen another doctor again.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Were you actually exercising or pretending to so you could fool yourself?
I used to walk to work and school(a good 30-40 minute walk) every day for about a year. Of course it made me very sleepy, especially after walking in the snow or cold rain. It did not help me get to sleep at night when I needed to sleep.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
This is marketing hoopla people fall for. Even natural substances in unnatural proportions is dangerous. Don't believe me? As a male, go start popping estrogen pills way too much even though you already have it in your own body. Let's not forget the little telltale signs like unnatural side effects too. This should clue you in.
I am well aware of the side effects of many drugs. The final thing that made me want to go ahead and try it was this site. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Melatonin.shtml[^]
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Captain See SharpI used to walk to work and school(a good 30-40 minute walk) every day for about a year. Of course it made me very sleepy, especially after walking in the snow or cold rain.
Ok, first, and this is very important. My advice will generally assume you're otherwise normal and don't have any special conditions to cater for. That being said... Did you get sleepy during the walk? If so, your blood sugar is out of whack and most likely your diet too. Or was it after the walk?
Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]
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How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006
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if you want good sleep 1) increase your physical workout 2) if you have stress problems try meditation 3) drink extra water 4) quit coffee / tea 5) try to quit alcohol/cigarettes 6) good sex before sleep will do (only if you are eligible :laugh:) 7) balance you diet its your body and take care of it ,it will pay you back and vice versa :):)
it is good to be important but it is more important to be good
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Josh Gray wrote:
Go see a doctor and ask for a referal to a counsellor.
I have and was prescribed Zoloft X| I did not enjoy quarter sized pupils and a spaced out feeling all day everyday. I quickly stopped taking it and never seen another doctor again.
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Captain See SharpI did not enjoy quarter sized pupils and a spaced out feeling all day everyday.
Oh, but it has natural ingredients! :) Oh, I had to.
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