Question about melatonin [modified]
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How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006
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1. The evidence for the efficacy of melatonin is sketchy and contradictory. Most controlled studies show no or little effect. However, most studies do indicate that it is safe for short-term use, so it might be worth a shot. 2. I've seen no real evidence anywhere that 5-HTP is effacious for sleep disorders. Mice studies have suggested that it can help mitigate the damage from sleep deprivation, but that's about it. 5-HTP is poorly studied and (IMO) criminally underregulated. If you're going to use it, you should probably discuss it with your doctor. 3. Personal reports like those on erowid are very entertaining, but they are a very, very lousy source of reliable information because the personal experiences written there aren't controlled or contextualized - so their experiences may have been nothing more than expectation fulfilled or a post hoc[^] fallacy. Have fun!
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How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006
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In my experience melatonin can be great but I don't think you should try using it if you haven't tried a few other things first. One of the other guys said that it might be worth trying exercise and he's right. Also avoid stimulating stuff (like tv, the internet, etc) late at night and don't take in any caffeine at all after about 4pm. I had difficulty sleeping when I was your age (even though I don't know how old you are, since I had difficulty getting to sleep from the age of about zero to 25 I am probably right) and it fixed itself when I got a real job and was training really hard at the gym and wearing myself out. Nowadays I reserve the use of melatonin for combatng jetlag etc. A single dose cures jetlag in my experience! Oh yeah, even when I've weighed 280lb I've never used more than 3mg at once. More is NOT better since the human body contains probably less than a tenth of this amount.
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if you want good sleep 1) increase your physical workout 2) if you have stress problems try meditation 3) drink extra water 4) quit coffee / tea 5) try to quit alcohol/cigarettes 6) good sex before sleep will do (only if you are eligible :laugh:) 7) balance you diet its your body and take care of it ,it will pay you back and vice versa :):)
it is good to be important but it is more important to be good
Amar Chaudhary wrote:
- good sex before sleep will do (only if you are eligible )
If you are a dude then even bad sex will tire you out! Even sex on your own... :laugh:
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Josh Gray wrote:
My father suffered from depression for many many years and was treated with Zoloft, its a real illness just like heart disease or anything else. If you want you can email me and Ill tell you a bit about what I learnt through his experiance.
I no longer suffer from depression except maybe a mild down day every now and then. It used to be extremely bad but time and mental effort allowed me to get passed it. My only problem now is slight anxiety at times and sleep problems occasionally. I don't have the money for doctors and such and I don't think I need them any more. I'm interested in 5-HTP because it provides a light mood lift and calming effect(great for those anxious days or in social situations) together with melatonin should provide good sleep which should prevent me from falling back into depression. Oh and Kava looks very interesting, I will try it eventually.
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I think it's a dangerous path you have choosen, all this self-medication without proper advice from a physician. Even if you've had bad experiences with doctors before, you would do well to see one before you start medicating yourself.
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How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006
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I just took some melatonin and......
Thanks. KHadden
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I just took some melatonin and......
Thanks. KHadden
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Captain See SharpI used to walk to work and school(a good 30-40 minute walk) every day for about a year.
Btw, I should mention. If your heart's not pumping it's not real exercise. Even people that walk for health tend to "power walk" (basically briskly). Dragging along one foot after another (I don't know your story, just giving you info) isn't quite the same. Also, keep in mind, the weather can affect your mood. Bad moods can hurt your exercise session. If you don't like walking the rain and snow for exercise then you owe it to yourself to find a new means of getting it in.
Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]
Hi, Ever taught you might have diabetes of type 2. I experience the same problems with my sleep before i knew i had it. Go see you doc and get it check. Remember that millions of people have diabetes of that type and are unaware of it. Later :cool:
"When you have learned to snatch the error code from the trap frame, it will be time for you to leave "
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Shog9 wrote:
whiskey
Unfortunately I am considered to be not old enough to buy or drink it which makes it difficult for me to get.
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Ken Hadden wrote:
I just took some melatonin and......
Did it work?
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Yes. If you truely have trouble sleeping as do I, use it. It seems to loose effectivness, though, when using it regularly so stop for a while once you are on a normal schedule again. Take it at least an hour before you want to sleep. And definately use the sublingual kind. It seems to work better, especially if you've eaten a large meal which will effect your ability to metabolize the swallowed kind. Valerian is decent as well. I've used both at the same time and zonked-out very quickly. -- modified at 16:40 Saturday 2nd December, 2006
Thanks. KHadden
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Yes. If you truely have trouble sleeping as do I, use it. It seems to loose effectivness, though, when using it regularly so stop for a while once you are on a normal schedule again. Take it at least an hour before you want to sleep. And definately use the sublingual kind. It seems to work better, especially if you've eaten a large meal which will effect your ability to metabolize the swallowed kind. Valerian is decent as well. I've used both at the same time and zonked-out very quickly. -- modified at 16:40 Saturday 2nd December, 2006
Thanks. KHadden
Ken Hadden wrote:
And definately use the sublingual kind.
I didn't buy the sublingual kind :sigh: but the pills may be better because it may stay in your system for a longer period of time.
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