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That's it, I'm ditching CVS!

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  • N Nick Parker

    Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

    I'm switching

    Welcome to the group. :-) I am curious how your conversion goes from CVS.

    - Nick Parker Microsoft MVP - Visual C#
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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    RCS just wouln't cope with some of the binary files in my repository. I'm going to ditch the revision history on those files (there aren't any for them basically) by adding them as new files in the new SVN repository. The python script isn't the fastest script in the world. It's been going for 2 hours now, and it's up to revision 812 out of 1299 for one of my CVS modules. I am going to split up my CVS modules into several SVN repositories. I find it ludicrous that files in one project affects the revision of files in totally unrelated projects. It will also cut down on the running time of the cvs2svn script. I anticipate that the conversion will finish at around 18:20 this evening. I suppose I'll have to work from home a little. :)

    -- Verletzen zerfetzen zersetzen zerstören Doch es darf nicht mir gehören Ich muss zerstören

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    • M Marco Stinger

      David Wulff wrote:

      FYI: The workgroup edition is included in all VS2005 TE MSDN subscriptions.

      Really ? I've got a brand new MSDN Professional Subst (still waiting for the DVD's) and I 'm not allowed to download the Vs2005 Team Edition (only the Professional one that comes with no Source Control as far as I know). For now I'm a "one man developper" so I don't need any collaboration tool but I could use some versioning (something better than backups ;P) Do I miss the point ?

      Ciao Marco

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      David Wulff
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      Marco [Stinger] wrote:

      and I 'm not allowed to download the Vs2005 Team Edition

      You don't have one of the team subscriptions so you won't get it.


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      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

        Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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        shane day
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        My team have particularly found SVN great for geographically distributed development efforts. We also like the fact that it sits outside of Visual Studio, meaning Visual Studio doesn't get to stuff things up with its crappy source control integration. (Of course, if you _need_ the source control integration for some unimaginable reason, there are tools out there that integrate SVN with Visual Studio.) I can't recommend SVN highly enough!!

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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          SteveWaNet
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          Did you get Tortoise running successfully without having Explorer start crashing? It works great, but I just got to have a working Windows Explorer :/ So for now, I have it uninstalled and just use the command line which is still great, because I love having source control on my home system. Steve

          "Just trust yourself, then you will know how to live." - Goethe

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            Did you get Tortoise running successfully without having Explorer start crashing? It works great, but I just got to have a working Windows Explorer :/ So for now, I have it uninstalled and just use the command line which is still great, because I love having source control on my home system. Steve

            "Just trust yourself, then you will know how to live." - Goethe

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            Yeah, no problems with Tortoise at all. Perhaps your Windows Explorer is borked?

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            • C Christian Graus

              VSTS is also pretty cool :-)

              Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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              Paul Watson
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              What is the command line support like with VSTS? I love svn over the command line.

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

              Shog9 wrote:

              I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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              • M Marco Stinger

                David Wulff wrote:

                FYI: The workgroup edition is included in all VS2005 TE MSDN subscriptions.

                Really ? I've got a brand new MSDN Professional Subst (still waiting for the DVD's) and I 'm not allowed to download the Vs2005 Team Edition (only the Professional one that comes with no Source Control as far as I know). For now I'm a "one man developper" so I don't need any collaboration tool but I could use some versioning (something better than backups ;P) Do I miss the point ?

                Ciao Marco

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                david garlisch
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                Perforce has a free limited user download you may want to check out. from perforce download page[^]: Licensing You may use software downloaded from Perforce for any purpose you want and for as long as you like. The Perforce Server supports only two users and five client workspaces unless used with a Perforce License. We will be happy to issue you a free Evaluation License to remove the user/workspace restrictions for a limited time. And no, I do NOT work for Perforce. ;) David

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                • M m3ntat_

                  We are using Tortoise with CVS at work, 4 person team. I would like some VS 2005 integration if there is it, anyone suggest the best free add in? Also I look at SVN but apparently it's a b1tch to setup on a Windows box for server/client. Any quick dirty installers, tutorials that do the trick? Thanks

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                  Jaroslav Martsek
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                  Try AnkhSvn - http://ankhsvn.tigris.org/ Works quite good. Although I like Tortoise better. Rashack

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                  • D david garlisch

                    Perforce has a free limited user download you may want to check out. from perforce download page[^]: Licensing You may use software downloaded from Perforce for any purpose you want and for as long as you like. The Perforce Server supports only two users and five client workspaces unless used with a Perforce License. We will be happy to issue you a free Evaluation License to remove the user/workspace restrictions for a limited time. And no, I do NOT work for Perforce. ;) David

                    www.csi-concepts.com

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                    Marco Stinger
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                    Thanks a lot, I'm going to give it a try Ciao Marco

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      What is the command line support like with VSTS? I love svn over the command line.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                      TrickyPhilbert
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                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      What is the command line support like with VSTS? I love svn over the command line.

                      Why on God's Earth why? The most logical place for any version control to be is to be available whilst looking at your solution in VS2005. Historically we've used Sourcesafe 6 for our Delphi products (which wasn't as integrated but at least you got a GUI), and we're just beginning a massive rewrite in C#.NET. We couldn't really justify a move to VSTS (not that big), so we appraised (but rejected) CVS + Subversion as they just didn't integrate into VS2005 as well as the plug-in for our legacy SS6. We know there are issues with SS6 (some of which are overcome in SS2005), but we just don't see the need to move to something else (when we've happily been able to trust SS6 for 8 years or so). What can you possibly do with a command line interface which wouldn't better be served by a decent GUI interface or better still a source control system which is well integrated into the IDE? p.s. Pre-SS6 we used a command line based system - hated it!

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                      • M Marco Stinger

                        Thanks a lot, I'm going to give it a try Ciao Marco

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                        Speder
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                        I never realized what a great system Perforce is, until I switched jobs and have to work with CVS. It is the biggest source of frustration for me. I am trying to convince management to ditch CVS (and to buy Perforce licenses). With the time everybody wastes with CVS, we could easily buy Licenses and still save money. CVS is free but comes at a cost... Speder

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                        • T TrickyPhilbert

                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          What is the command line support like with VSTS? I love svn over the command line.

                          Why on God's Earth why? The most logical place for any version control to be is to be available whilst looking at your solution in VS2005. Historically we've used Sourcesafe 6 for our Delphi products (which wasn't as integrated but at least you got a GUI), and we're just beginning a massive rewrite in C#.NET. We couldn't really justify a move to VSTS (not that big), so we appraised (but rejected) CVS + Subversion as they just didn't integrate into VS2005 as well as the plug-in for our legacy SS6. We know there are issues with SS6 (some of which are overcome in SS2005), but we just don't see the need to move to something else (when we've happily been able to trust SS6 for 8 years or so). What can you possibly do with a command line interface which wouldn't better be served by a decent GUI interface or better still a source control system which is well integrated into the IDE? p.s. Pre-SS6 we used a command line based system - hated it!

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                          Paul Watson
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                          Firstly, I don't use VS2005. Used to but not anymore. And the SVN integration was poor, very buggy. I used TortoiseSVN when on Windows. Secondly, I agree, the command line on Windows sucks and is not worth using. On Mac or Linux though it is quite powerful. During dev I'll have a few terminal windows open and they end up being faster than using GUIs for many tasks. It also means I can use almost any system in the office without worrying about whether they have X, Y or Z installed to help me do what is available from the command-line. I am a command line convert. The less GUI in the way the better. A simple but quality text-editor too.

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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