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Half of American Business PCs Can't Run Vista

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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    The federal government probably won't even allow Vista on their systems until 2009... I would bet that the percentage of existing home systems capable of running Vista is much lower. I personally don't see many people buying new systems just so they can use Vista. That would amount to a $1000 OS upgrade (and I use the term "upgrade" very lightly). I wonder what Microsoft was thinking...

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    Charlie Williams
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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    I wonder what Microsoft was thinking...

    They've got to move the ball forward at some point, no? At what point do you stop writing for 10 year old hardware?


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      http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

      Kevin

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      Talk about increased productivity!

      Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]

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      • C Charlie Williams

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        I wonder what Microsoft was thinking...

        They've got to move the ball forward at some point, no? At what point do you stop writing for 10 year old hardware?


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        That has nothing to do with needless fluff in the OS....

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        • T ToddHileHoffer

          I love how the racket in the pc industry works. Hardware manufactures package MS operating systems in order to sell windows. MS produces code that requires upgrades to sell hardware. All of them making fat ca$h, while us consumers foot the bill. God bless America.

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          :rolleyes: Come on, you *know* it's the consumers that drive the pc and os market. There is no conspiracy unless you consider plain old capitalism a conspiracy.

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            That has nothing to do with needless fluff in the OS....

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Charlie Williams
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            That has nothing to do with needless fluff in the OS....

            Which part would that be? The GUI? If that's needless fluff, I'm sure glad they've added gobs of it since the text-screen days.


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            • N NormDroid

              Yep, eventually in 3/4 years Vista will be mainstream, I really don't know why people are whining.

              We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs

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              l a u r e n
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              i think you should be given the annual fanboy award :laugh:

              "there is no spoon" {gagfoot} {me}

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              • K Kevin McFarlane

                http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

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                From my experience half of the employees of North American businesses don't even know how to use a computer beyond the most rudimentary point. (I once had a product manager report a bug that sometimes underscores show up in dialog boxes and sometimes they don't. She reported several other XP features as bugs.) Now my rant: 41% is not half. Yet, Williams keeps saying 50%. Second, who did this "study"? Turns out it's a hardware vendor using FUD for the purpose of making sales, nothing more.

                Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                • M Member 96

                  :rolleyes: Come on, you *know* it's the consumers that drive the pc and os market. There is no conspiracy unless you consider plain old capitalism a conspiracy.

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                  I wan't implying a conspiracy. I was just saying that they making boatloads of money of this nice arrangement that they have.

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                  • L l a u r e n

                    i think you should be given the annual fanboy award :laugh:

                    "there is no spoon" {gagfoot} {me}

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                    They have one of those? I thought they'd disguised it under the name "VB MVP"...

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                    • J jhwurmbach

                      Much less *need* to run Vista. Xp woks fin (which can noc be said from all Microsoft products), and moving hastily can only worsen things. So keep your feet still - the next PC you buy will bring Vista anyway. The only one who cares is Microsofts CFO.


                      "We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganised. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganising: and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation." -- Caius Petronius, Roman Consul, 66 A.D.

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                      Presumably if it hadn't been 2 years late the picture would have been even worse (from MS's point of view). But makes little difference to them really. They still made $16 billion last year despite no new Windows or Office. The market for their products in general is so huge that it doesn't matter that only a fraction upgrade.

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                      • M Michael P Butler

                        The development box given to me is barely spec'd to run Windows 2000. One day I must work for one of these companies who give their developers Windows XP

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                        You and me both...I'm hoping that the dual Xeon I'm meant to be getting next year turns up...but IT budgets run out so quickly when managers are wanting Blackberries

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                        • T ToddHileHoffer

                          I wan't implying a conspiracy. I was just saying that they making boatloads of money of this nice arrangement that they have.

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                          peterchen
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                          Rhetorical standard question: How much more would you pay for a Vista that runs on your current computer? IMO Developers play a big part. To make software affordable today, devs need the fastest box you can buy. So powerhungry software usually never gets a reality check until it's to late.


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                          • K Kevin McFarlane

                            http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

                            Kevin

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                            These kind of articles are probably paid for by Microsoft competitors. It is sad to think that there are that many businesses running on machines having less than a 800 mhz CPU and 512 MB RAM (minimum required for Vista and I think Microsoft set the minimum for Ultimate too high as I have a machine running it here on 512 MB RAM and a 1.7 ghz CPU). If that is the case, it is time for them to update their boat anchors.

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                            • S Shog9 0

                              They have one of those? I thought they'd disguised it under the name "VB MVP"...

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                              l a u r e n
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                              i dont know ... ask norm what they shoved up his a** :rolleyes:

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                                i dont know ... ask norm what they shoved up his a** :rolleyes:

                                "there is no spoon" {gagfoot} {me}

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                                Oooh, snarky. ;P

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                                  Oooh, snarky. ;P

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                                  l a u r e n
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                                  well i mean come on for god sake ... he is such a fanboy it's almost ridiculous ... it's like he joined the moonies or something ... someone has to tease him and i find it amusing :)

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                                    well i mean come on for god sake ... he is such a fanboy it's almost ridiculous ... it's like he joined the moonies or something ... someone has to tease him and i find it amusing :)

                                    "there is no spoon" {gagfoot} {me}

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                                    l a u r e n wrote:

                                    someone has to tease him and i find it amusing

                                    Hey, i quite understand. ;) *goes back to watching VS2005 slowly crash*

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                                      i dont know ... ask norm what they shoved up his a** :rolleyes:

                                      "there is no spoon" {gagfoot} {me}

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                                      NormDroid
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                                      Like water of a ducks back, I'm not biting... ;P

                                      We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs

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                                        well i mean come on for god sake ... he is such a fanboy it's almost ridiculous ... it's like he joined the moonies or something ... someone has to tease him and i find it amusing :)

                                        "there is no spoon" {gagfoot} {me}

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                                        NormDroid
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                                        Vista, I'm you're biggest fan. Looks like Normie boy took a big bite out of the Vista Pie! :rolleyes:

                                        We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs

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                                          Like water of a ducks back, I'm not biting... ;P

                                          We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs

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                                          l a u r e n
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                                          ;)

                                          "there is no spoon" {gagfoot} {me}

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