Gun Enthusiasts... what to buy?
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I have a Browning 9mm in a home-made couch holster with nine in the mag and one in the pipe 24/7
you must drive the Austin hippies stark raving mad.
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Yeah, ok, whatever. Crime only happens in the US... riiiight.
Oh for fuck's sake get a grip man.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Oh for f***'s sake get a grip man.
You somehow I think I'm so short-sided in my world view when you suggest everything outside the US doesn't fall under the required scrutiny in regards to using guns as protection due to combating crime. And yet I need a grip when I obviously make a sarcastic comment to emphasize your fallacy?
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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I think its a shame that you feel the need to do this.
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Yeah, but it's great that we CAN if we feel the need.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Yeah, but it's great that we CAN if we feel the need.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Yeah, but it's great that we CAN if we feel the need.
We just can't use bottled water as a means self-defense. :-D
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Josh Gray wrote:
Oh for f***'s sake get a grip man.
You somehow I think I'm so short-sided in my world view when you suggest everything outside the US doesn't fall under the required scrutiny in regards to using guns as protection due to combating crime. And yet I need a grip when I obviously make a sarcastic comment to emphasize your fallacy?
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Take a deap breath, re-read the conversation without the preconceived idea that Im looking to critisise the US and you'll get my point. If not I cant help you.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Take a deap breath, re-read the conversation without the preconceived idea that Im looking to critisise the US and you'll get my point.
I never did say you attempted to insult the US. I talked about your idea of my short-sided view as you see it. Reread the post I just made rather than conjure up some idea in your head man.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Josh Gray wrote:
Take a deap breath, re-read the conversation without the preconceived idea that Im looking to critisise the US and you'll get my point.
I never did say you attempted to insult the US. I talked about your idea of my short-sided view as you see it. Reread the post I just made rather than conjure up some idea in your head man.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Like a dog with a bone. Let it go, we're on differnt pages and its not going to change
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Josh Gray wrote:
Let it go, we're on differnt pages and its not going to change
I'm in this weird place called reality. But whatever, when you feel like trading in your chicken bone for a t-bone, give me a shout. ;P
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Josh Gray wrote:
Let it go, we're on differnt pages and its not going to change
I'm in this weird place called reality. But whatever, when you feel like trading in your chicken bone for a t-bone, give me a shout. ;P
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Like to have the last word dont you? There is no reality, there is my reality and there is yours.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Like to have the last word dont you?
No, not really. I'm just bored currently.
Josh Gray wrote:
There is no reality, there is my reality and there is yours.
Psst, there's really no t-bone either. I know it's a let down, but hey it's a dog-eat-dog world.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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I can certainly understand *why* you want to own a handgun, and I'm not steering you one way or the other, but the only question I'd have is are you seriously prepared to use it? In other words, are you capable of handling the weapon in such a fashion that it could not be used against you? On a semi-related note, you might want to check with your local law enforceent to familarize yourself with the rules regarding owning *and* using a handgun, even if it is in self-defense (e.g., even though you feel your life is in danger, firing a gun within city limits could potentially be used against you). Three members of my immediate family were in law enforcement, thus story time abounds with tales of women, and sometimes men, acting in self-defense only to have some legality work against them. It's a shame when a person canot protect themself.
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I did all that stuff already. Apparently, I'm elegible for a concealed carrying license if I take some class or something. That's not what I want though. Let me make this perfectly clear though, I hope I never have to use it, but if I did, it would be a shoot first kind of situation. Basically, if someone comes into my house in the middle of the night or something, and they aren't shouting loudly that they are the police (which has happened to me)... then they are going to have some kind of problem. Note: I already own lethal weapons (2 quality swords and a show one), but they would not be as quick or as accessible as a gun, since they are firmly attached to the wall. A dog is out of the question although I love them for companionship. As for handling the thing so it can not be used on me, that's one major reason why I asked about training... yes, the cops have broken into my house before, late at night, but they clearly and repeatedly identified themselves. That's when I lived with my Navy friend, so... we were heavily armed (potentially) - they were in the wrong house.
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Yeah, but it's great that we CAN if we feel the need.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Yeah, but it's great that we CAN if we feel the need.
I just dont get it. The thought of sitting next to a stranger no the bus with a loaded gun is far more unsettling than the unlikely prospect of a gun battle with an armed intruder in my house. Here guns and especailly ammo are hard to come by and your average thief would not have access to one. If they did come across one they would be more likely to sell it and buy some drugs (it would be worth a lot more than its normal retail value) than use it in a robbery. There is no wrong or right. If enough people in our society wanted to be armed the laws would eventually be changed but fortunately that is not the case here. I think guns are mechanically fascinating. When I was a kid my father had two. One was a Victorian miniature single shot ladies pistol and the other was a replica of Wide Erps pistol that he made himself during his apprenticeship. Both were brought to Australia in his hand luggage when he emigrated from England. They were eventually turned in to the Police during an amnesty.
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Me think that unless you carry your gun with you all the time in your house (or anywhere else ) , owning one, properly stored away from children, and the bullets stored somewhere else (*) a gun, any gun will be useless. I assume that proper storage of guns means having it under lock unloaded and the bullets stored somewhere else.
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That's the main reason my friend advised the Beretta. He said it's virtually impossible to get it to fire 'accidentally'... as long as the safety is on, you can store it loaded. And yeah, for my purpose if I had to unlock a lock, put the thing together, load it, then fire... it wouldn't be worth much. There are no children around, and no animals, so I don't think it would be possible for an accidental discharge, unless the building was burning or something, and then it's kinda beside the point. I will have to call him again but my buddy made it sound like if I seperate the magazine from the gun, and it's been unloaded, then it's as simple as popping in the magazine, releasing the safety and you're ready to fire... right?
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I think its a shame that you feel the need to do this.
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Josh Gray wrote:
I think its a shame that you feel the need to do this.
Me too.
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Glock 17 (9mm/.40) - they're rugged, easy to handle, reliable, doesn't jam easily*, and are not expensive. Some people don't like how the aim looks/works. I like it, but your mileage may vary. If you learn to shoot with it (see footnote), double taps are easy as pie, as the kick back of the Glock is very light (compared to other guns in that group). Glock is a big brand, hence you will always be able to get standard spare parts, but also extra bells and whistles such as smoother triggers. Reassembling Glocks is almost as easy as taking them apart. The Glock is, unlike the Beretta, very light as it's made mostly of composite materials. A Beretta is pretty darn heavy. Makes quick handling of the gun a lot easier. There's also a drawback with a light gun - your aim will be affected negatively. The heavier gun (up to a point) - the more steady your aim is. Of course, I've only practiced target shooting. On the other hand, shooting is shooting. If you can't hit a card board, you sure won't hit a moving target. Even though you're getting personal training, I still advise you to practice often on the firing range. Practice makes perfect! The trainer can only teach you - you're the one that has to learn. If you want to have fun while practicing, here's something you might want to try: http://www.ipsc.org/[^]. Make sure you try several guns on a firing range before you buy. *Casings will get stuck in the ejector if you don't lock your wrist (letting the gun kick "up"). It's not a biggie - you'll adapt very quickly. You'd have to be very weak to make it jam, if you grip the gun with both hands. So, even if you don't learn how to lock your wrist - just make sure to use both hands! :)
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That's what I'm lookin for. Answers like that. I intend to practice a lot. I always enjoyed it before, but I was practicing with a Remington 22, so it wasn't much fun really. I lived sort of 'on the farm', so I would occasionally buy a box of bullets and find some beer bottles and go out and shoot from different distances until I ran out of bullets. I had a 12 gauge too for a while, but I only ever fired it a few times, at pheasants. Basically, when I had the kids I sold those. I don't have that issue anymore.
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Can you legally own a gun in Sweden as well? I'm kinda curious to how many countries there are that allow this.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I'm kinda curious to how many countries there are that allow this.
Ideally... all of them. ...now there's a 'soapbox' comment :)
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MP (2) wrote:
From gun nuts like him.
I was under the impression they didn't want to turn this into a gun/no gun debate. ;P
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I was under the impression they didn't want to turn this into a gun/no gun debate.
so lets make it a martial weapon debate... I can legally buy a gun, and even carry it concealed. But carrying a concealed escrima, nunchuka, or sai I could be arrested... lets not even go into a sword...
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We have a problem with hme invasions, so... I have a Browning 9mm in a home-made couch holster with nine in the mag and one in the pipe 24/7, and my wife has a S&W Model 637 .38 revolver (the Airweights are nice, but kinda pricey). Both of us have a c/c license. For longer range stuff, I have a Model 700 Remington with a fluted barrel and chambered for .308 with what I call "reach-out-and-touch-someone" optics - and I'm good out to about 300 yards - nobody gets away. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
We have a problem with home invasions
This is where criminals break into a house while the family are there? If so, something that is unheard of in the UK :sigh:
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Yeah, but it's great that we CAN if we feel the need.
I just dont get it. The thought of sitting next to a stranger no the bus with a loaded gun is far more unsettling than the unlikely prospect of a gun battle with an armed intruder in my house. Here guns and especailly ammo are hard to come by and your average thief would not have access to one. If they did come across one they would be more likely to sell it and buy some drugs (it would be worth a lot more than its normal retail value) than use it in a robbery. There is no wrong or right. If enough people in our society wanted to be armed the laws would eventually be changed but fortunately that is not the case here. I think guns are mechanically fascinating. When I was a kid my father had two. One was a Victorian miniature single shot ladies pistol and the other was a replica of Wide Erps pistol that he made himself during his apprenticeship. Both were brought to Australia in his hand luggage when he emigrated from England. They were eventually turned in to the Police during an amnesty.
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Josh Gray wrote:
a replica of Wide Erps pistol
Ummm, that's "Wyatt Earp"... :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Josh Gray wrote:
a replica of Wide Erps pistol
Ummm, that's "Wyatt Earp"... :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
