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    m3ntat_
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    Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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      Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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      Mike Poz
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      Microsoft Outlook 2003 has the ability to restrict email content and duration. Click here[^] for the instructions from the Office 2003 online help files about how to do this. First paragraph of the help entry reads: "You can create e-mail messages with restricted permission using Information Rights Management only in Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 and Microsoft Office Outlook 2003." So if you fit that qualification, you can do it that way.

      Mike Poz

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        Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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        Bradml
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        How about printing it out and then setting it on fire once he reads it??


        Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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          How about printing it out and then setting it on fire once he reads it??


          Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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          gujingshui
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          Bradml wrote:

          How about printing it out and then setting it on fire once he reads it??

          ;) the oldest way seems to be the most effective .

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            Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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            Pierre Leclercq
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            WTF? How about a non-disclosure agreement? (Just kidding). Nothing will prevent your boss from doing a print screen, or use a camera to photograph the screen. This is your boss, why would you want to control things like this. That should be the other way around isn't it? Maybe you could just put a CONFIDENTIAL, or RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION, on your document. Your boss is not that stupid. Or you could call for a meeting, and do a presentation? Weird. :~

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              Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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              Bradml
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              Thought of another suggestion, remotely install a program onto his computer that silently fires on startup, then have it detect when your email is read. When it detects that the "forward" button is clicked then have the program give power to a pci port where you have sneakily hidden a small explosive device, thus rendering it unsendible.


              Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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                Thought of another suggestion, remotely install a program onto his computer that silently fires on startup, then have it detect when your email is read. When it detects that the "forward" button is clicked then have the program give power to a pci port where you have sneakily hidden a small explosive device, thus rendering it unsendible.


                Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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                Pierre Leclercq
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                What did you smoke?

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                  WTF? How about a non-disclosure agreement? (Just kidding). Nothing will prevent your boss from doing a print screen, or use a camera to photograph the screen. This is your boss, why would you want to control things like this. That should be the other way around isn't it? Maybe you could just put a CONFIDENTIAL, or RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION, on your document. Your boss is not that stupid. Or you could call for a meeting, and do a presentation? Weird. :~

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                  Not actually a boss per-se, am contracting, discussing contract renewals other terms etc, it is a difficult situation, which is remote so can't print and burn option haha :-). I don't want him to forward to the agent. Obviously can't prevent print screen, but looking to secure as best can, so can view doc only with password and duration, disable copy/paste, disable print. Thanks

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                    Not actually a boss per-se, am contracting, discussing contract renewals other terms etc, it is a difficult situation, which is remote so can't print and burn option haha :-). I don't want him to forward to the agent. Obviously can't prevent print screen, but looking to secure as best can, so can view doc only with password and duration, disable copy/paste, disable print. Thanks

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                    Bradml
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                    There are image techniques you could use. Sometimes colors in jpgs don't show up in bmps (which is what print screens output i think) Google it


                    Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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                      Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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                      Todd Smith
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                      If he's tech savy at all, he can just screenshot it. You need to DRM protect it. Then you can send both the MPAA and RIAA after him if needed.

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                        There are image techniques you could use. Sometimes colors in jpgs don't show up in bmps (which is what print screens output i think) Google it


                        Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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                        Todd Smith
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                        True, make it white text on a black background. Then he'll run out of printer ink before it finishes.

                        Todd Smith

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                          How about printing it out and then setting it on fire once he reads it??


                          Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          Reminds me of a scene in MI II.


                          Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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                            Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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                            Daniel Turini
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                            What if he reads everything? How can you be sure that he won't remember everything? Sometimes, you just need to decide whether to trust or not.

                            From the Churchdown Parish Magazine: "Would the Congregation please note that the bowl at the back of the Church, labelled 'For The Sick,' is for monetary donations only."

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                              How about printing it out and then setting it on fire once he reads it??


                              Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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                              ednrgc
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                              Outlook 2009 comes with an option that will be built into new printers. New printers will have an option that use special ink that lasts for about 3 days, then dries and does not adhere to the paper. Thus, giving you a time enabled document option.

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                                Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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                                Member 96
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                                It's an interesting idea, but technically impossible. I suggest you print it, take it physically to him, sit while he reads it then take it back again afterwards.

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                                  It's an interesting idea, but technically impossible. I suggest you print it, take it physically to him, sit while he reads it then take it back again afterwards.

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                                  m3ntat_
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                                  yeah I agree, this is probably the best way. I just thought it this day and age of technology there might be self destructing electronic documents or something outthere?

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                                    Thought of another suggestion, remotely install a program onto his computer that silently fires on startup, then have it detect when your email is read. When it detects that the "forward" button is clicked then have the program give power to a pci port where you have sneakily hidden a small explosive device, thus rendering it unsendible.


                                    Brad Australian I assume Microsoft would not use doors, because using Windows is faster.

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                                    ednrgc
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                                    They have those.....they're usually called a virus. :)

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                                      yeah I agree, this is probably the best way. I just thought it this day and age of technology there might be self destructing electronic documents or something outthere?

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      There've been companies that tried to create proprietary nonemail systems that supported that functionality. Noone bought into them, and they all disappeared with the dotboom.

                                      -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                                        Hey, I have a requirement, to send an email+spreadsheet to a boss, discussing sensitive information. I want to ensure that myself and him are the only ones who can see this information, I can encrypt, password protect the spreadsheet, I could put the contents of the email in a word document and do the same and give my boss the password and send him the email with these 2 docs. But he could still forward this on to someone give them the password and they can view it. Is there a way I can make this document only last for 1 day or something like (self destruct). Best solution would be I send him a link, he views the information in a browser (served up from some secure provider) can't save anything local and then ends the session, he has access to this say for one day. Does anyone know of anything like this or had a similar requirement and what you did? Thanks heaps, looking to send this today.

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                                        cmk
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                                        There was a website i saw last week (don't remember the name). They allowed you to send an email to someone with a time limit. e.g. - You send email to boss via this webs site. - Web site holds message and forwards another email with a link to boss. - Boss uses link in email to visit and read email on web site. - Web site deletes email. Of course you boss could print or screen-scrape the message from the web site, but it's a start.

                                        ...cmk Save the whales - collect the whole set

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                                          There was a website i saw last week (don't remember the name). They allowed you to send an email to someone with a time limit. e.g. - You send email to boss via this webs site. - Web site holds message and forwards another email with a link to boss. - Boss uses link in email to visit and read email on web site. - Web site deletes email. Of course you boss could print or screen-scrape the message from the web site, but it's a start.

                                          ...cmk Save the whales - collect the whole set

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                                          m3ntat_
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                                          That sounds pretty cool. Now what was the name of that website? without that I have nothing. Check your history, rack your brain, what terms were you searching when you got there, in what other context did you navigate there from :-) Thanks

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