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Harald Krause wrote:
Only the liberal open minded people.
Grow up. You aren't superior just because you think these videos are ok for kids to watch.
Harald Krause wrote:
but we shipped most of them off to the USA a few hundred years ago...
Which shows how stupid YOU are. We left retard because the place sucked.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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True, but at least we learned our lesson 50-60 years ago and it seems that some intelligent behaving is showing up here. And please don't mention ex jugoslavia... There is a proverb in german it goes like this: The stupid don't learn anything, the smart learn from their errors and the genious learn from the errors of the others. So lets compare: Europe: WW1(1920) WW2(1939) Balkan war (1990). US: WW2 (1939), Suez(1956), Libanon (1958) Taiwan(1958), Laos (1970), Vietnam (1970), Domenican Republic (1965), Kuba (1962), 6 day war (1967), Kambodscha (1975), El Salvador, Niceragua (1981) Grenada (1982), Lybia (1981), Somalia (1991), Irak Part1 and Part2, Afghanistan etc..... Ok some of them were important, but most of them were only ment to invade countries to force them to open their economy to the US especially all the south american ones..
Your list is bigger on the US. So is it you know better US history than European history, or is it you've forgotten European countries still have armies, and still use them. Afghanistan for example has seen troops from many different countries.
Harald Krause wrote:
True, but at least we learned our lesson 50-60 years ago and it seems that some intelligent behaving is showing up here. And please don't mention ex jugoslavia...
Well I do not think this is intelligent behavior to be sitting around waiting for someone else to clean up the mess. (Sorry I mentionned ex Yougoslavia)
Harald Krause wrote:
There is a proverb in german it goes like this: The stupid don't learn anything, the smart learn from their errors and the genious learn from the errors of the others
Good saying. Let us just remember Europe was the super-power at the beginning of the 20th century. After WWI, Europe started WWII, and at the end of WWII half the world stock of gold was in the US... Guess who learned from the others? I tend to think the problem is not about ideas or cleverness. When a country has few resources, it has limited options to engage in hostilities. When a country grows and becomes a superpower, if it is built upon decent values, the problem is then how long will it resist the urge to use that super power? So far, US is not perfect, but not that bad. At one point in time, Germany was split-up, occupied by many different countries. Today it is a whole country, free of any foreign troops. I even heard when US closed their last military bases in Germany, some people were unhappy to see them go. As they were not occupying anymore, and basically bringing revenues to local people :)
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Craster wrote:
Kid sister rule please.
:laugh: Fair enough.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Pull the stick out of your arse. You aren't superior just because you think these videos are ok for kids to watch.
No I am not superior. This is the natural habbit of biggot people... I know that I am wrong from time to time, even often some people say.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Which shows how stupid YOU are. We left retard because the place sucked.
This depends on the view. It seems that both sides are equally satisfied. We are happy that we get of the biggot people, you are happy that you have left this "sinful place" which sucked
Well, I'm done talking to you. I don't like wasting my time with idiots.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
So you think all of Europe thinks like you? That's a nice lump sum statement if I ever heard of it.
So what is actually in the video? What makes it not work safe.
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You can see an old man's bum. That's sacrilege is some parts of the world!
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You can see an old man's bum. That's sacrilege is some parts of the world!
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkIt can't be any worse than the builder's crack I had to contend with at lunch time. We went to a cheap restaurant for lunch and at the table opposite was the most horrendous pastey white builders bum cleavage pushing its way out of a pair of jeans. One of my colleagues suggested we should ask the waiter for a plate of peanuts to see if we could score points.
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Maximilien wrote:
you think that nudity is what makes those 2 short films SB material ?
Yup. I don't think kids need to be watching that.
Maximilien wrote:
that was the last thing on my mind when watching them.
Well, I didn't finish the videos so I don't know if they got worse or not.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Maximilien wrote: you think that nudity is what makes those 2 short films SB material ? Yup. I don't think kids need to be watching that.
I think the violence is more disturbing that the nudity. There are lots of violent programmes on TV, yet show a bit of nature and it has warnings before the show, when the adverts finish and it gets put on TV after 10 and people want it banned.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Well, I didn't finish the videos so I don't know if they got worse or not.
There was mild non-sexual nudity in the first video only. I would say that on the nudity front it was PG rated. On the violence front I'd give it a 12A. (12A means that 12 years and up can watch it, and under 12s if accompanied by an adult)
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peterchen wrote:
isn't about your personal level of acceptance.
Not to mention that over here at least, someone could be offended by this if they happen to be watching over your shoulder while you're at work.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
someone could be offended by this if they happen to be watching over your shoulder while you're at work.
It really depends on the company. At my current company the people my my office wouldn't be offended by this - I'm sure most people have a lot worse on their PCs anyway. There are a few in HQ that wouldn't find it acceptable (but there is a big cultural difference between the two offices) I recon that if I showed that in my office and people saw I'd get a crowed either asking to have the link emailed, or asking if I can turn the sound up.
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Well they both aren't, but that's really moot. What I love is people defending it (like my new shiny down-vote). I mean, this ain't a question of how you feel about it (not you, generalizing), it's a question of where it belongs and that is the SB.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I mean, this ain't a question of how you feel about it (not you, generalizing), it's a question of where it belongs and that is the SB.
My personal opinion is that this is borderline - If I'd posted the link I would have gone for the SB just to be on the safe side although I would not (am not) offended by it being in the lounge.
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Harald Krause wrote:
Only the liberal open minded people.
Grow up. You aren't superior just because you think these videos are ok for kids to watch.
Harald Krause wrote:
but we shipped most of them off to the USA a few hundred years ago...
Which shows how stupid YOU are. We left retard because the place sucked.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Harald Krause wrote: Only the liberal open minded people. Grow up. You aren't superior just because you think these videos are ok for kids to watch.
I think he was saying that the people, in general, are more open minded.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Harald Krause wrote: but we shipped most of them off to the USA a few hundred years ago... Which shows how stupid YOU are. We left retard because the place sucked.
Well, if you want to think that then that's up to you. However, I feel that your statement shows a level of arrogance and ignorance that I wouldn't have expected of you. As a for instance, a woman called the Countess of Sutherland (Sutherland is where my ancestors come from) instigated the Highland Clearances. People were forced off the land. They had no choice. If they stayed her factor and his hench men would burn the crofts (the style of house in the Highlands) to the ground. Some of the people were absorbed in to the cities. Most fled to North America. Similar things were happening all over Europe at the time. They did NOT go by choice!
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It can't be any worse than the builder's crack I had to contend with at lunch time. We went to a cheap restaurant for lunch and at the table opposite was the most horrendous pastey white builders bum cleavage pushing its way out of a pair of jeans. One of my colleagues suggested we should ask the waiter for a plate of peanuts to see if we could score points.
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I agree completely, but I'm too tired to get drawn into this with Jeremy again. Just don't start new threads in the Lounge anymore unless all participants are covered from head to toe in a full abaya with matching niqab, and speaking Queen's English, that way you can't offend anyones feelings. Heaven forbid the PC crowd start crying offense though - then we're all fucked.
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
One of my colleagues suggested we should ask the waiter for a plate of peanuts to see if we could score points.
I don't suppose it was a cheap sushi restaurant? ;) Failing that, a nice cold knife handle or a swizzle stick make for a fine reminder that no one wants to see your bum while they are eating. Not even your mother.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Maximilien wrote: you think that nudity is what makes those 2 short films SB material ? Yup. I don't think kids need to be watching that.
I think the violence is more disturbing that the nudity. There are lots of violent programmes on TV, yet show a bit of nature and it has warnings before the show, when the adverts finish and it gets put on TV after 10 and people want it banned.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Well, I didn't finish the videos so I don't know if they got worse or not.
There was mild non-sexual nudity in the first video only. I would say that on the nudity front it was PG rated. On the violence front I'd give it a 12A. (12A means that 12 years and up can watch it, and under 12s if accompanied by an adult)
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You're wasting your time Colin, Jeremy doesn't care for other peoples opinions. No matter how outweighed he is, he is the only one with the balls to represent the correct side of any argument and the rest of us are just typical immoral cowards. I value his one even more than the others. He is right, let him have it and this thread will disapear. Even the thread he created to talk about this thread will dissapear. And then we can get back to behaving like adults.
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I agree completely, but I'm too tired to get drawn into this with Jeremy again. Just don't start new threads in the Lounge anymore unless all participants are covered from head to toe in a full abaya with matching niqab, and speaking Queen's English, that way you can't offend anyones feelings. Heaven forbid the PC crowd start crying offense though - then we're all fucked.
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
One of my colleagues suggested we should ask the waiter for a plate of peanuts to see if we could score points.
I don't suppose it was a cheap sushi restaurant? ;) Failing that, a nice cold knife handle or a swizzle stick make for a fine reminder that no one wants to see your bum while they are eating. Not even your mother.
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
I don't suppose it was a cheap sushi restaurant?
Yes... How did you guess?
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David Wulff wrote:
I don't suppose it was a cheap sushi restaurant?
Yes... How did you guess?
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Cold, hard, and very unpleasant experience. :sigh:
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Maximilien wrote: you think that nudity is what makes those 2 short films SB material ? Yup. I don't think kids need to be watching that.
I think the violence is more disturbing that the nudity. There are lots of violent programmes on TV, yet show a bit of nature and it has warnings before the show, when the adverts finish and it gets put on TV after 10 and people want it banned.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Well, I didn't finish the videos so I don't know if they got worse or not.
There was mild non-sexual nudity in the first video only. I would say that on the nudity front it was PG rated. On the violence front I'd give it a 12A. (12A means that 12 years and up can watch it, and under 12s if accompanied by an adult)
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I think the violence is more disturbing that the nudity.
That is your opinion and I can respect that. FWIW, you don't and won't see me post violent videos in the lounge. But, regardless, it is a controversial topic and it should go in the SB. Refer to my anti-religious example for more, just so you know I'm not playing hypocrite.
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You're wasting your time Colin, Jeremy doesn't care for other peoples opinions. No matter how outweighed he is, he is the only one with the balls to represent the correct side of any argument and the rest of us are just typical immoral cowards. I value his one even more than the others. He is right, let him have it and this thread will disapear. Even the thread he created to talk about this thread will dissapear. And then we can get back to behaving like adults.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
You're wasting your time Colin, Jeremy doesn't care for other peoples opinions.
David, sometimes I wonder if you'll ever learn. When have I EVER disrespected your believes unless my were disrespected first and I was just pissed off or something? Not many. How much objectionable stuff (that I think is ok) do you see me post in the lounge, not much? Really David, you need to look past your own bias and hate if you ever plan on becoming wise.
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You can see an old man's bum. That's sacrilege is some parts of the world!
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
You can see an old man's bum.
It's not just the bum, but yeah it's the nudity aspect of it that's already been addressed up yonder.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
So you think all of Europe thinks like you? That's a nice lump sum statement if I ever heard of it.
So what is actually in the video? What makes it not work safe.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
What makes it not work safe.
The nudity. For one, people can get a trouble over here for watching that at work and getting caught. For two, kids don't need to be watching it for a lot of reasons, but I'll keep that list for an SB discussion one day.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
So you think all of Europe thinks like you? That's a nice lump sum statement if I ever heard of it.
So what is actually in the video? What makes it not work safe.
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Keep in mind I didn't watch the entire videos. I stopped after after the old dude came into the scene. If it got really violent after that, I am not aware of it.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I mean, this ain't a question of how you feel about it (not you, generalizing), it's a question of where it belongs and that is the SB.
My personal opinion is that this is borderline - If I'd posted the link I would have gone for the SB just to be on the safe side although I would not (am not) offended by it being in the lounge.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
If I'd posted the link I would have gone for the SB just to be on the safe side although I would not (am not) offended by it being in the lounge.
That's the whole point. I'm not offended by some stuff I won't say in the lounge either. And yet, I still don't post it in the lounge. The point is, a lot of people do find it offensive. My main point is nudity, sex, etc. is the only controversial subject that doesn't get automatically shunned here (notice the thread is still not in the SB) and it's sad to see such blatant hypocrisy. Sad enough in fact I considered leaving CP at several points (no, I'm not threatening to do so like some retards, just saying my thoughts on the matter). I will say, if the people of CP don't stand up for what's right, then I'm really just starting to care less about this community and the stupidity behind it.
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