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  • M Michael P Butler

    Dario Solera wrote:

    I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription?

    Roughly the same as a new subscription, but it is very rare that you'll want to subscribe every-year. Microsoft just doesn't update their tools enough to justify the cost anymore. Back in the day, when it was the only way to get access to the MSDN library and SDK's, then the cost was worth it but now I can get that from the internet. I had a Universal subscription which I let lapse until the beginning of last year when VS2005 came out. If I'd have renewed for the missing years, I'd have spent a lot of money and not got anything useable out of it. As the next release of VS2005 or even the service packs don't seem to be on the horizion, I'll be thinking twice about renewing in Jan.

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    Dario Solera
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    But if I don't renew the subscription, all the available software cannot be used anymore, right?

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      But if I don't renew the subscription, all the available software cannot be used anymore, right?

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      Daniel Grunwald
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      You can continue to use the software you received during the subscription time: MSDN FAQ[^] My subscription will expire end of this year, does anyone know if the download site stays available for me? (I guess it won't...) Do I have to download everything (that I'm interested in) over my crappy 512 KB/s line? I don't know if I'll still get the DVD shipment containing Vista+Office...

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      • D Daniel Grunwald

        You can continue to use the software you received during the subscription time: MSDN FAQ[^] My subscription will expire end of this year, does anyone know if the download site stays available for me? (I guess it won't...) Do I have to download everything (that I'm interested in) over my crappy 512 KB/s line? I don't know if I'll still get the DVD shipment containing Vista+Office...

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        Dario Solera
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        Daniel Grunwald wrote:

        You can continue to use the software you received during the subscription time: MSDN FAQ[^]

        Wow, that's nice. So I might consider subscribing. Thanks.

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        • P Pierre Leclercq

          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

          it ended up in the shredder

          :wtf: :omg: Do you work for a large company?

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          When this particular event took place, we were the largest business unit (we had about 700) within a company of about 1500 people or so. Since then we've been sold to Eastman Kodak.


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          • D David Wulff

            It sounds like he works in the public sector?


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            Gary R Wheeler
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            David Wulff wrote:

            he works in the public sector

            Hey! This is the Lounge; that's downright disgusting. Truth be told, I spent a fair amount of time as a defense contractor, which, God willing, I will never do again. The type of work was OK (lots of simulations), but I hated the fact that my work always seemed to end up on a shelf somewhere very shortly after I finished it.


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            • D Daniel Grunwald

              You can continue to use the software you received during the subscription time: MSDN FAQ[^] My subscription will expire end of this year, does anyone know if the download site stays available for me? (I guess it won't...) Do I have to download everything (that I'm interested in) over my crappy 512 KB/s line? I don't know if I'll still get the DVD shipment containing Vista+Office...

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              David Wulff
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              AFAIK the download site will cease a few months after your subscription does. For a period I had two overlapping subscriptions but the id assigned to the first is no longer valid. Whether the 'few months after' is intentional, or merely the time the old id was purged I cannot tell you, but I really would not expect the site to stay available once your subscription ends.


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              • D David Wulff

                AFAIK the download site will cease a few months after your subscription does. For a period I had two overlapping subscriptions but the id assigned to the first is no longer valid. Whether the 'few months after' is intentional, or merely the time the old id was purged I cannot tell you, but I really would not expect the site to stay available once your subscription ends.


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                Pierre Leclercq
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                David Wulff wrote:

                Whether the 'few months after' is intentional

                It could be. So that customers are given time to renew their subscription and not be interrupted unnecessarily.

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                • G Gary R Wheeler

                  David Wulff wrote:

                  he works in the public sector

                  Hey! This is the Lounge; that's downright disgusting. Truth be told, I spent a fair amount of time as a defense contractor, which, God willing, I will never do again. The type of work was OK (lots of simulations), but I hated the fact that my work always seemed to end up on a shelf somewhere very shortly after I finished it.


                  Software Zen: delete this;

                  Fold With Us![^]

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                  Pierre Leclercq
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                  Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                  to end up on a shelf

                  That is annoying. :sigh: Just like the "let's use that money or else the budget will be cut".

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                  • D Dario Solera

                    I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription? Thanks for any information.

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                    Luis Alonso Ramos
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                    Have you looked at Empower ISV? It is MSDN for small ISV applitations. At least in Mexico, I get 5 licenses for $560 USD per year (all of them). You can only renew once, and the third year you must pay full price. Search for Microsoft Empower ISV in Google.

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                    • D Dario Solera

                      I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription? Thanks for any information.

                      ________________________________________________ Personal Blog [ITA] - Tech Blog [ENG] Developing ScrewTurn Wiki 2.0 (2.0 Alpha is out)

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                      I bought my MSDN Professional subscription straight from MS. The first year cost me $1200, and the renewal was $800 this year. I don't know what translates into Euros, but it was 1/3 less for the renewal. Still a rip-off, but hey, what can ya do? According to MSDN, for the Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition with MSDN Professional Subscription (what used to be just the MSDN Professional) is 1.284,00 € for the full, 855,00 € for the renewal.

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                      • F FlamTaps

                        I bought my MSDN Professional subscription straight from MS. The first year cost me $1200, and the renewal was $800 this year. I don't know what translates into Euros, but it was 1/3 less for the renewal. Still a rip-off, but hey, what can ya do? According to MSDN, for the Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition with MSDN Professional Subscription (what used to be just the MSDN Professional) is 1.284,00 € for the full, 855,00 € for the renewal.

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                        Dario Solera
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                        FlamTaps wrote:

                        The first year cost me $1200, and the renewal was $800 this year

                        :wtf::mad: Why is it so cheap? It should be, at the current change rate, 923 Euros for a new subscription and 615 Euros for renewal. Bastards.

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                        • D Dario Solera

                          FlamTaps wrote:

                          The first year cost me $1200, and the renewal was $800 this year

                          :wtf::mad: Why is it so cheap? It should be, at the current change rate, 923 Euros for a new subscription and 615 Euros for renewal. Bastards.

                          ________________________________________________ Personal Blog [ITA] - Tech Blog [ENG] Developing ScrewTurn Wiki 2.0 (2.0 Alpha is out)

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                          S Douglas
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                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          It should be, at the current change rate, 923 Euros for a new subscription and 615 Euros for renewal.

                          I half wonder if there isn't a EU tax that has to be paid. :~ As well all know taxes are passed on to the consumer.


                          I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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