I would buy a Mac if I didn't work for Microsoft
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I would buy a Mac if I didn't work for Microsoft[^] I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that does not translate into great products. :omg::omg: 3 years passed since then... something has changed?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
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I would buy a Mac if I didn't work for Microsoft[^] I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that does not translate into great products. :omg::omg: 3 years passed since then... something has changed?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
Clickok wrote:
3 years passed since then... something has changed?
Hope stopped floating...
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I would buy a Mac if I didn't work for Microsoft[^] I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that does not translate into great products. :omg::omg: 3 years passed since then... something has changed?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
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I would buy a Mac if I didn't work for Microsoft[^] I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that does not translate into great products. :omg::omg: 3 years passed since then... something has changed?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
Yes: the Windows team ditched the then-current builds of Longhorn and 'reset' back to Windows Server 2003 SP1. Windows Vista really reflects two years of work since this reset, rewriting some components to remove dependencies on other uncompleted work (which is why very little of the OS, if any, relies on Avalon or Indigo WPF or WCF) and removing others entirely. The problem now, for Microsoft at least, is that the value proposition just isn't there for many users who are happy with XP. I personally am not upgrading yet because too much of my work depends on VS.NET 2003 and SQL Server 2000 (not supported by Microsoft on Windows Vista - they mostly run fine but they won't take support calls) and on eVC 3.0 and 4.0 (which don't run at all).
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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I wish Apple would get off their high horse, and make OSX available for regular PCs, and directly compete with Windows.
The problem is that macOS has always been a loss leader for apple, thier actual profit comes from selling the hardware it runs on. Until that changes don't expect thier OS policy to change either. Controlling the hardware tightly makes it easier for them in other ways as well, they don't have to maintain compatability with the WhacKluge Tranmongrobulator cards since they were never approved mac hardware to begin with. To complete with windows they'd need to have drivers for the entire sorry mess that is the complete set of every hardware card in existance.
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
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The problem is that macOS has always been a loss leader for apple, thier actual profit comes from selling the hardware it runs on. Until that changes don't expect thier OS policy to change either. Controlling the hardware tightly makes it easier for them in other ways as well, they don't have to maintain compatability with the WhacKluge Tranmongrobulator cards since they were never approved mac hardware to begin with. To complete with windows they'd need to have drivers for the entire sorry mess that is the complete set of every hardware card in existance.
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
dan neely wrote:
To complete with windows they'd need to have drivers for the entire sorry mess that is the complete set of every hardware card in existance.
Doesn't the 64bit version of Vista require ALL new drivers as well? Maybe now would have been a good time for Apple to 'release' OSX from 'Apple only' hardware (if they have any inclination). Too bad... an Apple vs. Microsoft smack-down would have been fun to watch.
"I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image." - Stephen Hawking
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I wish Apple would get off their high horse, and make OSX available for regular PCs, and directly compete with Windows.
Why? Even ignoring the madness inherent in trying to compete directly with Microsoft in anything, such an act would mean trying to get decent driver support for the massive amounts of (often flaky) hardware available for standard PCs. Considering the number of complaints regarding the lack of drivers for 64bit Windows, i doubt this would go well.
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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dan neely wrote:
To complete with windows they'd need to have drivers for the entire sorry mess that is the complete set of every hardware card in existance.
Doesn't the 64bit version of Vista require ALL new drivers as well? Maybe now would have been a good time for Apple to 'release' OSX from 'Apple only' hardware (if they have any inclination). Too bad... an Apple vs. Microsoft smack-down would have been fun to watch.
"I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image." - Stephen Hawking
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Doesn't the 64bit version of Vista require ALL new drivers as well?
acording to driver authors, well designed drivers are relatively straitforward to port. Based on that criteria I expect HP to go bankrupt in the next 5 years because noone's able to use thier printers with thier new computers. :laugh:
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
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I wish Apple would get off their high horse, and make OSX available for regular PCs, and directly compete with Windows.
I agree, not that I want OSX, but it sure would be great to see the advances which would come with direct competition. Both platforms would probably leap years ahead in a short time. Of couse that could mean more bugs..
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dan neely wrote:
To complete with windows they'd need to have drivers for the entire sorry mess that is the complete set of every hardware card in existance.
Doesn't the 64bit version of Vista require ALL new drivers as well? Maybe now would have been a good time for Apple to 'release' OSX from 'Apple only' hardware (if they have any inclination). Too bad... an Apple vs. Microsoft smack-down would have been fun to watch.
"I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image." - Stephen Hawking
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Doesn't the 64bit version of Vista require ALL new drivers as well?
Not necessarily. I upgraded from WindowsXP and everything seemed to fine, after I got the HP printer installed from a network. The drivers that had newer versions were automatically downloaded and installed for me. Sweet.
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I would buy a Mac if I didn't work for Microsoft[^] I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that does not translate into great products. :omg::omg: 3 years passed since then... something has changed?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:
I worked for them at the end of '00 and well into '02. I am a programmer, but they got me while recovering from a head-injury (crashed while racing motorcycles) :( I recovered well enough to decide to leave AND THEN went Mac! I still am, even though I 95% work commercially with PCs.:laugh:
Interested in answers.