Cricket - Bye bye Warnie
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You are standing on what, to claim him a Chucker?? When in 2002, Wisden named him the greatest bowler of all time. Australian prime minister John Howard himself once controversially labelled Murali a 'chucker'. I don't surprise to see you telling the same. You know what he got as a reply from former Australian captain, Steve Waugh? Steve said Murali was "the Don Bradman of bowling". Waugh went on to say he is perfectly legal too. -- modified at 23:56 Wednesday 20th December, 2006
L.W.C. Nirosh. Colombo, Sri Lanka.
Nirosh wrote:
You are standing on what, to claim him a Chucker
My own eye sight. There is no doubt he's a good bowler and he has changed his action a lot as a result of being caught out cheating.
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''It's about knowing the right time and I like to go out on top.[^] It had to happen eventually. Whatever you think of the guy personally he has done an amazing amount for the game both here in Oz and overseas and is without a doubt the most entertaining bowler I've ever had the chance to watch.
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Nirosh wrote:
You are standing on what, to claim him a Chucker
My own eye sight. There is no doubt he's a good bowler and he has changed his action a lot as a result of being caught out cheating.
System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect
Mate, give him the respect he deserve.. your eye cannot beat a result of an official investigation, he never reduce the bending, result of the investigation helped him to invent "dusra" the mistry bawl.
Josh Gray wrote:
he's a good bowler
Good?? see below Muttiah Muralitharan holds a number of world records, and several firsts: The highest number of international wickets in Tests and ODIs combined (1081 wickets as of October 20th 2006) Second highest number of Test wickets(657), after Shane Warne from Australia Second highest number of ODI wickets(425), after Wasim Akram from Pakistan The most 10-wicket hauls in a match at Test level (19 matches) Along with Jim Laker (England), he is the only bowler to have taken 9 wickets in a Test innings twice, and the only Sri Lankan to have taken more than 8 wickets in a Test innings. The most 5-wicket hauls in an innings at Test level (57 innings) The first (and only) player to take 50 or more wickets against every Test playing nation.[citation needed] Taken 10 wickets in an innings against all countries (9 countries) Reached 350, 400, 450, 500, 550, 600 and 650 wickets in the fewest number of matches played Bowler to remain ranked as No.1 by PWC (PriceWaterhouse Coopers), now ICC cricket ratings, for the longest period of time. One of the few bowlers in the world to reach 1000 first class wickets (Notably, Muralitharan also did this in the fewest number of matches, most of which were Test matches). Taken 5 wickets in an innings more than 100 times at the first class level. Only player to take 10 Wickets in a Test match in four consecutive matches twice. No other player in history has even done it once. He is a great bawler, and one of the greatest of all time.. I cannot understand why AUS are afraid of Murali this much..
L.W.C. Nirosh. Colombo, Sri Lanka.
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Mate, give him the respect he deserve.. your eye cannot beat a result of an official investigation, he never reduce the bending, result of the investigation helped him to invent "dusra" the mistry bawl.
Josh Gray wrote:
he's a good bowler
Good?? see below Muttiah Muralitharan holds a number of world records, and several firsts: The highest number of international wickets in Tests and ODIs combined (1081 wickets as of October 20th 2006) Second highest number of Test wickets(657), after Shane Warne from Australia Second highest number of ODI wickets(425), after Wasim Akram from Pakistan The most 10-wicket hauls in a match at Test level (19 matches) Along with Jim Laker (England), he is the only bowler to have taken 9 wickets in a Test innings twice, and the only Sri Lankan to have taken more than 8 wickets in a Test innings. The most 5-wicket hauls in an innings at Test level (57 innings) The first (and only) player to take 50 or more wickets against every Test playing nation.[citation needed] Taken 10 wickets in an innings against all countries (9 countries) Reached 350, 400, 450, 500, 550, 600 and 650 wickets in the fewest number of matches played Bowler to remain ranked as No.1 by PWC (PriceWaterhouse Coopers), now ICC cricket ratings, for the longest period of time. One of the few bowlers in the world to reach 1000 first class wickets (Notably, Muralitharan also did this in the fewest number of matches, most of which were Test matches). Taken 5 wickets in an innings more than 100 times at the first class level. Only player to take 10 Wickets in a Test match in four consecutive matches twice. No other player in history has even done it once. He is a great bawler, and one of the greatest of all time.. I cannot understand why AUS are afraid of Murali this much..
L.W.C. Nirosh. Colombo, Sri Lanka.
Nirosh wrote:
He is a great bawler, and one of the greatest of all time.. I cannot understand why AUS are afraid of Murali this much..
Simple. We dont like people who cheat. Thats my last word on the topic, bring it up in the soap box if you like.
System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect
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Nirosh wrote:
He is a great bawler, and one of the greatest of all time.. I cannot understand why AUS are afraid of Murali this much..
Simple. We dont like people who cheat. Thats my last word on the topic, bring it up in the soap box if you like.
System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect
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He is definitely the best bowler ever, IMO. I would rate him far higher than Murali because Murali has taken most of his wickets on spin-friendly subcontinent pitches, while Warne has had a lot of success pretty much everywhere, including Australian wickets where spinners would normally be crucified. I'll miss Warne. :( [edit]I seem to have sparked off the most bizarre flame war in CP history. :laugh: [/edit] -- modified at 3:10 Thursday 21st December, 2006
Cheers, Vikram.
"Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Murali has taken most of his wickets on spin-friendly subcontinent
What about this[^]? And this[^] ? As said earlier, Warne can be rated up due to batting capabilities. But again on fielding front Murali edges him.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Murali has taken most of his wickets on spin-friendly subcontinent
What about this[^]? And this[^] ? As said earlier, Warne can be rated up due to batting capabilities. But again on fielding front Murali edges him.
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prasad_som wrote:
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: Murali has taken most of his wickets on spin-friendly subcontinent What about this[^]? And this[^] ? As said earlier, Warne can be rated up due to batting capabilities. But again on fielding front Murali edges him.
pffft, Warnie gets mroe maidens :)
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prasad_som wrote:
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: Murali has taken most of his wickets on spin-friendly subcontinent What about this[^]? And this[^] ? As said earlier, Warne can be rated up due to batting capabilities. But again on fielding front Murali edges him.
pffft, Warnie gets mroe maidens :)
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Josh Gray wrote:
pffft, Warnie gets mroe maidens
Yeah, he does get caught with a few maidens.
Steve
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prasad_som wrote:
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: Murali has taken most of his wickets on spin-friendly subcontinent What about this[^]? And this[^] ? As said earlier, Warne can be rated up due to batting capabilities. But again on fielding front Murali edges him.
pffft, Warnie gets mroe maidens :)
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:). I'm not against Warnie. But wanted to underline that Murali is equally great. Both has given new dimension to art of spin.
Josh Gray wrote:
pffft, Warnie gets mroe maidens
Here, detail of Murali[^] and Warnie[^]. I can see Murali has slightly better average and strike rate :).
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''It's about knowing the right time and I like to go out on top.[^] It had to happen eventually. Whatever you think of the guy personally he has done an amazing amount for the game both here in Oz and overseas and is without a doubt the most entertaining bowler I've ever had the chance to watch.
System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect
Yesterday when the news started filtering about Warne's retirement, my initial reaction was of surprise,because he was bowling so well.But as Ian Chappel said it is better to quit when at top and when people think that there is still some fire left in him. Also there was some speculation about McGrath too following Warne into retirement. Australian cricket is in for some tough times when these two legends hang up their cricket gear. Agni
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Nirosh wrote:
Murali
Chucker
System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect
Exactly the kind of arrogance you expect from an Aussie sports fan. I can write huge essays supporting Murali's action but you just need to go and read the reports of your own labs to see if his action is legal or not. BTW. Have a look at the records to see the averages of wickets taken AGE MATCHES PLAYED WICKETS Warne 37 143 699 Murali 34 110 674 I still believe that Warne was the best leg-spinner ever and Murali was the best off-spinner ever but best spinner ever... well I can't pick one.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"
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Nirosh wrote:
You are standing on what, to claim him a Chucker
My own eye sight. There is no doubt he's a good bowler and he has changed his action a lot as a result of being caught out cheating.
System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect
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He is definitely the best bowler ever, IMO. I would rate him far higher than Murali because Murali has taken most of his wickets on spin-friendly subcontinent pitches, while Warne has had a lot of success pretty much everywhere, including Australian wickets where spinners would normally be crucified. I'll miss Warne. :( [edit]I seem to have sparked off the most bizarre flame war in CP history. :laugh: [/edit] -- modified at 3:10 Thursday 21st December, 2006
Cheers, Vikram.
"Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Warne has had a lot of success pretty much everywhere
almost everywhere(everyone knows the exception).
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
including Australian wickets where spinners would normally be crucified.
you remember the number of wickets Kumble got on his last Australian tour? If Warne is the greatest spinner ever, then Kumble is the most under rated player ever. Kumble Wickets per match = 538/111=4.85 Warne Wickets per match = 699/143=4.88 Also Warne has more than half of his wickets(419)against England(186), South Africa(130) and NZ(103), who have been poor players of spin. I will miss McGrath more then Warne.
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Exactly the kind of arrogance you expect from an Aussie sports fan. I can write huge essays supporting Murali's action but you just need to go and read the reports of your own labs to see if his action is legal or not. BTW. Have a look at the records to see the averages of wickets taken AGE MATCHES PLAYED WICKETS Warne 37 143 699 Murali 34 110 674 I still believe that Warne was the best leg-spinner ever and Murali was the best off-spinner ever but best spinner ever... well I can't pick one.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"
I'm an Aussie sports fan and I would not describe myself or expect you to describe me as an arrogant one. Stop stereotyping. This is not the sort of behaviour I expect from Pakistani sport fans.
Steve
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Warne has had a lot of success pretty much everywhere
almost everywhere(everyone knows the exception).
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
including Australian wickets where spinners would normally be crucified.
you remember the number of wickets Kumble got on his last Australian tour? If Warne is the greatest spinner ever, then Kumble is the most under rated player ever. Kumble Wickets per match = 538/111=4.85 Warne Wickets per match = 699/143=4.88 Also Warne has more than half of his wickets(419)against England(186), South Africa(130) and NZ(103), who have been poor players of spin. I will miss McGrath more then Warne.
Anand Vivek Srivastava wrote:
almost everywhere(everyone knows the exception).
Yes we know... :) but despite that no doubt about that he is one of the greatest bowler..
Anand Vivek Srivastava wrote:
Kumble is the most under rated player ever
Not exactly agree with this... this is correct that he has not got the spotlight as warne and murli but he is also labeled as one of the most destructive bowler...
Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal
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Nirosh wrote:
Murali
Chucker
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Josh Gray wrote:
Chucker
Phucking 5 for that. Truer words have never been typed, except maybe by me when having this arguement many a time in the Soapbox.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Warne has had a lot of success pretty much everywhere
almost everywhere(everyone knows the exception).
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
including Australian wickets where spinners would normally be crucified.
you remember the number of wickets Kumble got on his last Australian tour? If Warne is the greatest spinner ever, then Kumble is the most under rated player ever. Kumble Wickets per match = 538/111=4.85 Warne Wickets per match = 699/143=4.88 Also Warne has more than half of his wickets(419)against England(186), South Africa(130) and NZ(103), who have been poor players of spin. I will miss McGrath more then Warne.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Warne has had a lot of success pretty much everywhere
almost everywhere(everyone knows the exception).
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
including Australian wickets where spinners would normally be crucified.
you remember the number of wickets Kumble got on his last Australian tour? If Warne is the greatest spinner ever, then Kumble is the most under rated player ever. Kumble Wickets per match = 538/111=4.85 Warne Wickets per match = 699/143=4.88 Also Warne has more than half of his wickets(419)against England(186), South Africa(130) and NZ(103), who have been poor players of spin. I will miss McGrath more then Warne.
Anand Vivek Srivastava wrote:
everyone knows the exception
I put that in a footnote in the original post myself, but deleted it.
Cheers, Vikram.
"Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.
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Anand Vivek Srivastava wrote:
Kumble Wickets per match = 538/111=4.85 Warne Wickets per match = 699/143=4.88
i think you missed murali Murali Wickets per match = 674/110=6.12
Regards Shajeel
oh, everyone knows that already. I wanted to highlight that Kumble is in the same league, and to even say that Warne is The greatest legspinner, would not be fair. one of the greatest spinners seems fair enough for all Warne, Murli and Kumble.
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I'm an Aussie sports fan and I would not describe myself or expect you to describe me as an arrogant one. Stop stereotyping. This is not the sort of behaviour I expect from Pakistani sport fans.
Steve
Wow, this is a bizarre flame war. :laugh: I can't believe you got 2 votes of 1 each for this. :sigh:
Cheers, Vikram.
"Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.