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  • C Chris Buckett

    This story[^] from the BBC talks about a series of papers that have been sponsored by the UK Gov't and contain predictions for the future. The paper says a "monumental shift" could occur if robots develop to the point where they can reproduce, improve themselves or develop artificial intelligence. ...If this happened, the report says, the robots would have certain responsibilities such as voting, the obligation to pay taxes, and perhaps serving compulsory military service. Terminator, anyone? :) Would the robots that pay tax reduce the tax burden on me I wonder? If they pay tax and are allowed to vote, then surely they would be able to stand for parliament also? Could we end up with a robot government? (ok, I sense obvious jokes here).

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    Bradml
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    Chris Buckett wrote:

    Robots to pay tax...

    They call them Programmers.


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    • C Chris Buckett

      This story[^] from the BBC talks about a series of papers that have been sponsored by the UK Gov't and contain predictions for the future. The paper says a "monumental shift" could occur if robots develop to the point where they can reproduce, improve themselves or develop artificial intelligence. ...If this happened, the report says, the robots would have certain responsibilities such as voting, the obligation to pay taxes, and perhaps serving compulsory military service. Terminator, anyone? :) Would the robots that pay tax reduce the tax burden on me I wonder? If they pay tax and are allowed to vote, then surely they would be able to stand for parliament also? Could we end up with a robot government? (ok, I sense obvious jokes here).

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      Chris Losinger
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      i, for one, welcome our new robot taxpayers

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      • C Chris Buckett

        This story[^] from the BBC talks about a series of papers that have been sponsored by the UK Gov't and contain predictions for the future. The paper says a "monumental shift" could occur if robots develop to the point where they can reproduce, improve themselves or develop artificial intelligence. ...If this happened, the report says, the robots would have certain responsibilities such as voting, the obligation to pay taxes, and perhaps serving compulsory military service. Terminator, anyone? :) Would the robots that pay tax reduce the tax burden on me I wonder? If they pay tax and are allowed to vote, then surely they would be able to stand for parliament also? Could we end up with a robot government? (ok, I sense obvious jokes here).

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        El Corazon
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        Chris Buckett wrote:

        Could we end up with a robot government?

        What??? We don't? ;P of course the better response is... Artificial Intelligence is still better than no intelligence. ;) however, I am a Forbin project reader, and I-Robot, I think that that A.I. is ultimately a bad idea (even though I employ quite a few A.I. techniques in my work), should A.I. ever truly be achieved the machine would quickly recognized the insanity that is man, and depending on what other programming is laid, respond accordingly.

        Chris Buckett wrote:

        Terminator, anyone?

        that is one response.... Forbin Project another.

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          Chris Buckett wrote:

          Could we end up with a robot government?

          What??? We don't? ;P of course the better response is... Artificial Intelligence is still better than no intelligence. ;) however, I am a Forbin project reader, and I-Robot, I think that that A.I. is ultimately a bad idea (even though I employ quite a few A.I. techniques in my work), should A.I. ever truly be achieved the machine would quickly recognized the insanity that is man, and depending on what other programming is laid, respond accordingly.

          Chris Buckett wrote:

          Terminator, anyone?

          that is one response.... Forbin Project another.

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

          Forbin Project

          I've just IMDB'd the forbin project, I'm surprised I've not heard of it, as that sort of thing usually interests me. I'll have to have a read of the book. May I also mention War Games with Matthew Broderick (possibly not quite so intelligent, though) :)

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          • C Chris Buckett

            This story[^] from the BBC talks about a series of papers that have been sponsored by the UK Gov't and contain predictions for the future. The paper says a "monumental shift" could occur if robots develop to the point where they can reproduce, improve themselves or develop artificial intelligence. ...If this happened, the report says, the robots would have certain responsibilities such as voting, the obligation to pay taxes, and perhaps serving compulsory military service. Terminator, anyone? :) Would the robots that pay tax reduce the tax burden on me I wonder? If they pay tax and are allowed to vote, then surely they would be able to stand for parliament also? Could we end up with a robot government? (ok, I sense obvious jokes here).

            ChrisB

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            Marc Clifton
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            Chris Buckett wrote:

            the obligation to pay taxes

            To be followed by the Robot Boston Chip Party and the drafting of the Robot Constitution Of The United Neurons. Marc

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            • C Chris Buckett

              Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

              Forbin Project

              I've just IMDB'd the forbin project, I'm surprised I've not heard of it, as that sort of thing usually interests me. I'll have to have a read of the book. May I also mention War Games with Matthew Broderick (possibly not quite so intelligent, though) :)

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              El Corazon
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              Chris Buckett wrote:

              I've just IMDB'd the forbin project, I'm surprised I've not heard of it

              It's old. :) I had to get my cane just the help me mention it. ;) Yup, I've seen war games. There are some that accuse me of trying for that. :) they don't know me well enough. :)

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                Chris Buckett wrote:

                Could we end up with a robot government?

                What??? We don't? ;P of course the better response is... Artificial Intelligence is still better than no intelligence. ;) however, I am a Forbin project reader, and I-Robot, I think that that A.I. is ultimately a bad idea (even though I employ quite a few A.I. techniques in my work), should A.I. ever truly be achieved the machine would quickly recognized the insanity that is man, and depending on what other programming is laid, respond accordingly.

                Chris Buckett wrote:

                Terminator, anyone?

                that is one response.... Forbin Project another.

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                Artificial Intelligence is still better than no intelligence

                They will have implemented Artificial Stupidity by then.

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                • C Chris Buckett

                  This story[^] from the BBC talks about a series of papers that have been sponsored by the UK Gov't and contain predictions for the future. The paper says a "monumental shift" could occur if robots develop to the point where they can reproduce, improve themselves or develop artificial intelligence. ...If this happened, the report says, the robots would have certain responsibilities such as voting, the obligation to pay taxes, and perhaps serving compulsory military service. Terminator, anyone? :) Would the robots that pay tax reduce the tax burden on me I wonder? If they pay tax and are allowed to vote, then surely they would be able to stand for parliament also? Could we end up with a robot government? (ok, I sense obvious jokes here).

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                  Wjousts
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                  Why would people build robots that end up becoming a burden by demanding stuff? Isn't the whole point of robots (from the Czech word for labor or work) that they will do all the work without all the annoying demands that come from human workers (pay, vacation, bathroom breaks, etc.)?

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                    Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                    Artificial Intelligence is still better than no intelligence

                    They will have implemented Artificial Stupidity by then.

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                    MP (2) wrote:

                    They will have implemented Artificial Stupidity by then.

                    then a robot government will be no different!:rolleyes:

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                      Artificial Intelligence is still better than no intelligence

                      They will have implemented Artificial Stupidity by then.

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                      MP (2) wrote:

                      Artificial Stupidity

                      Why bother, when the natural kind is so freely available?


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                      • E El Corazon

                        Chris Buckett wrote:

                        Could we end up with a robot government?

                        What??? We don't? ;P of course the better response is... Artificial Intelligence is still better than no intelligence. ;) however, I am a Forbin project reader, and I-Robot, I think that that A.I. is ultimately a bad idea (even though I employ quite a few A.I. techniques in my work), should A.I. ever truly be achieved the machine would quickly recognized the insanity that is man, and depending on what other programming is laid, respond accordingly.

                        Chris Buckett wrote:

                        Terminator, anyone?

                        that is one response.... Forbin Project another.

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                        Forbin project

                        Thank you. You have once again proved my premise that 98% of what Hollywood has released in the last 20 years is a rehash. I'm adding this to my list. Forbin Project => Terminator others I can remember off hand The Shop Around the Corner => You've Got Mail I have quite a large list at home. I find it funny that they're concerned that people are stealing their IP when in fact they're stealing from themselves.

                        -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                          Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                          Forbin project

                          Thank you. You have once again proved my premise that 98% of what Hollywood has released in the last 20 years is a rehash. I'm adding this to my list. Forbin Project => Terminator others I can remember off hand The Shop Around the Corner => You've Got Mail I have quite a large list at home. I find it funny that they're concerned that people are stealing their IP when in fact they're stealing from themselves.

                          -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                          Sean Cundiff wrote:

                          I find it funny that they're concerned that people are stealing their IP when in fact they're stealing from themselves.

                          The driving philosphy is very similar to: "He's my kid brother, which means I'm the only one allowed to beat him up" *WAM*

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                          • C Chris Buckett

                            This story[^] from the BBC talks about a series of papers that have been sponsored by the UK Gov't and contain predictions for the future. The paper says a "monumental shift" could occur if robots develop to the point where they can reproduce, improve themselves or develop artificial intelligence. ...If this happened, the report says, the robots would have certain responsibilities such as voting, the obligation to pay taxes, and perhaps serving compulsory military service. Terminator, anyone? :) Would the robots that pay tax reduce the tax burden on me I wonder? If they pay tax and are allowed to vote, then surely they would be able to stand for parliament also? Could we end up with a robot government? (ok, I sense obvious jokes here).

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                            Who else thought of Bender? :-D

                            The tigress is here :-D

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                            • W Wjousts

                              Why would people build robots that end up becoming a burden by demanding stuff? Isn't the whole point of robots (from the Czech word for labor or work) that they will do all the work without all the annoying demands that come from human workers (pay, vacation, bathroom breaks, etc.)?

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                              Kinda silly really, the whole technical/industrial revolution was supposed to pave the way for less work, but we seem to be back to the 50-70 hour work week as a result.

                              What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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                                Why would people build robots that end up becoming a burden by demanding stuff? Isn't the whole point of robots (from the Czech word for labor or work) that they will do all the work without all the annoying demands that come from human workers (pay, vacation, bathroom breaks, etc.)?

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                                Roger Wright
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                                Wjousts wrote:

                                do all the work without all the annoying demands

                                That's what illegal immigrants are for. Once they get annoying, though, back they go.

                                "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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