How do I become a super programmer?
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Hmmm...KISS??? Usually I find the simplest designs as the most excellent example of a super programmer... If I can go in and begin understanding code immediately (better yet the architecture) I consider that something super!!! Cheers :)
It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!
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How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?
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If you want super powers, buy comic books. If you want to improve yourself, focus on what you can do better today, instead of some far off and mystical goal that you can't possibly achieve at this point. The trick, IMO, is to always try to do things as well as you can, and to look for ways to do things better. Code Complete is a great suggestion, whoever made it. But, it's a book. It's not going to make you better, YOU will make you better by both reading and applying it. And, that's just one book, although it's a good one. Look for any opportunity to be the best you can, if it's through books, through things you read in forums, or whatever. The end result won't be what you described, but it will mean that you will be improving yourself, and if you know you're doing the best that you could, because you worked at it, then you should be happy with that.
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Hockey wrote:
KISS???
What? How about a high five instead?
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Stands for Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Hmmm...KISS??? Usually I find the simplest designs as the most excellent example of a super programmer... If I can go in and begin understanding code immediately (better yet the architecture) I consider that something super!!! Cheers :)
It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!
Hockey wrote:
KISS
I listen to KISS sometimes, I don't find it improves my code :P
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?
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Some of the responses you have received seem a little harsh in my mind. Shooting for the stars and having dreams is rarely a bad thing. It sounds like you have a passion for programming and truly desire to be "great" at it. Some more established programmers may feel that your dream is unreasonable and unattainable (a fantasy) partly due to their personal experiences. I for one don't think that at all. There are a few truly super programmers out there, but most of us are merely good at what we do, and some are just abysmal. There are many reasons for this, but few of them are technical. The reason people become "super" at anything has to do with something inside them, not necessarily inherent in what they do. Jim Collins has written several excellent books on what causes some companies to succeed (Good to Great, Built to Last, Level 5 Leaders, etc). The things that make companies succeed has allot to do with what makes succesful people. A personal drive for excellence, an unwaivering belief in ones goals (not necessarily the path to those goals), and many more things affect this. My advice to you is to first reallize that a super programmer is more than a coder. (This is an assumption about you based on my experience with many other programmers. It may not be true, but your enthusiasm reminds me of this.) A super programmer is someone who not only understand how to read (yes read) and write code, but someone who knows what code to read and what code to write. This is the truly tricky part. Also, communicating your ideas to others is critical to becoming "super". There are litteraly tens of thousands of algorithms, tens of thousands of techniques, etc. None of them matter until you understand what it is you are supposed to be doing in the first place. After you make the leap from coder to full time "listener, problem solver, communicator, constant student, strategizer", and part-time "coder", your journey will be on the right path. From there, it takes years of experience, preferably the help of a mentor, lots of mistakes and mis-steps and no doubt many other major setbacks. Over time, you will inperceptibly improve until one day you will wake up and remember your desire long ago to become "a super programmer", and will realize that your desire was not a destination, but a direction and you are moving in the right one. That's my 2 cents. Good luck with your dream.
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How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?
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By starting off being a mediocre one, and programming, programming, programming! And then one day waking up and realizing that the trick to writing the most complex systems imaginable is to make them out of the most simplest pieces possible. :badger: Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
By starting off being a mediocre one, and programming, programming, programming!
This is the only way :)
Marc Clifton wrote:
And then one day waking up and realizing that the trick to writing the most complex systems imaginable is to make them out of the most simplest pieces possible.
you can say that again. this is the best answer anyone can get
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Richie308 wrote:
he didn't ask how to become a great programmer.
Yes he did. In the subject line.
Richie308 wrote:
He asked how to accomplish a fantasy
I don't think what he's asking is a fantasy at all.
Richie308 wrote:
Please think before shooting down my answer.
I did. I felt your answer was discouraging and negative. People need to have ideals, and dreams, and yes, fantasies (*cough*). I for one know a couple people that definitely meet the criteria of being able to rapidly think up an elegant design to a highly complex problem. These people are geniuses, and I'm amazed at how quickly they can reduce a problem down to essential issues, think of the problem from numerous angles simultaneously, and see how it affects the current architecture and usability, and all so fast they can't hardly articulate their thoughts. So no, I don't think what he's asking is impossible. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
I for one know a couple people that definitely meet the criteria of being able to rapidly think up an elegant design to a highly complex problem. These people are geniuses, and I'm amazed at how quickly they can reduce a problem down to essential issues, think of the problem from numerous angles simultaneously, and see how it affects the current architecture and usability, and all so fast they can't hardly articulate their thoughts. So no, I don't think what he's asking is impossible.
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How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?
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How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:ha ha Super programmer? Trying to become GOD? If you really meant that you want to give solutions for a complex problems in a imaginable simple way, try following steps... (You can only try... no guarantee... but you know... this is the only way...) 1) Choose your domain 2) Try to reinvent the wheel and get blocked with problems. 3) observe how are they solved in competition/different domain.. 4) Visualize the big picture.. Once you get the Big picture... you are almost done... haribabu.. (Impossible to understand...)
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In that case you really need to supplement typing code with other hobbies. I'm not being rude, but you really don't want it to develop as an addiction. Experience is the only thing that will help you, and the only way you can get that is through varied exposure to programming. Do you have a job as a developer? If not then finding one where you can work on varied tasks with huge amounts of pressure should give you the rewards you seek without becoming too overbearing, and the opportunities for advancement should fall at your feet. That said, at some point you will need to specialise. No one wants a jack of all trades and no one offering the sort of rewards you want will offer it to one. Specialising within your own area will be considerably more rewarding and open a lot more doors for you.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milk"Experience is the only thing that will help you, and the only way you can get that is through varied exposure to programming. Do you have a job as a developer? If not then finding one where you can work on varied tasks with huge amounts of pressure should give you the rewards you seek without becoming too overbearing, and the opportunities for advancement should fall at your feet." Sarcassm? Seriously - I'm not sure. I've been writing code for 25 years... longer if you add the overtime (paid and unpaid). Maybe I'm maturing or I have the post Christmas blues, but "huge amounts of pressure" gets old real fast. My practical experience has been that you can jump tall buildings, your hero status *may* last for 1 day, then it resumes with "what have you done for me today?" status. What say you? As far as the desire to be a super programmer, I would heed the advice to maintain a balance in life... the Carribean is calling me right now.....
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams
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Richie308 wrote:
he didn't ask how to become a great programmer.
Yes he did. In the subject line.
Richie308 wrote:
He asked how to accomplish a fantasy
I don't think what he's asking is a fantasy at all.
Richie308 wrote:
Please think before shooting down my answer.
I did. I felt your answer was discouraging and negative. People need to have ideals, and dreams, and yes, fantasies (*cough*). I for one know a couple people that definitely meet the criteria of being able to rapidly think up an elegant design to a highly complex problem. These people are geniuses, and I'm amazed at how quickly they can reduce a problem down to essential issues, think of the problem from numerous angles simultaneously, and see how it affects the current architecture and usability, and all so fast they can't hardly articulate their thoughts. So no, I don't think what he's asking is impossible. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
These people are geniuses, and I'm amazed at how quickly they can reduce a problem down to essential issues, think of the problem from numerous angles simultaneously, and see how it affects the current architecture and usability, and all so fast they can't hardly articulate their thoughts.
That would be me... Sometimes. And sometimes I try and articulate several things at once and it all comes out in gibberish that only I can understand. :doh: Antony Life is nothing but an individuals perception of an immortals dream. - ME
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Marc Clifton wrote:
By starting off being a mediocre one, and programming, programming, programming!
This is the only way :)
Marc Clifton wrote:
And then one day waking up and realizing that the trick to writing the most complex systems imaginable is to make them out of the most simplest pieces possible.
you can say that again. this is the best answer anyone can get
Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.
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Marc Clifton wrote: And then one day waking up and realizing that the trick to writing the most complex systems imaginable is to make them out of the most simplest pieces possible.
it was said again. ;P Antony Life is nothing but an individuals perception of an immortals dream. - ME
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Things are good, just been doing the whole uni thing, tended to be doing less stuff with computers (other than courseworks) recently, busy with other things. What have I missed here? dropped by the other day to find somebody leaving and posting guidelines about, although they seem to have been removed :suss: Its coming up to exam time now, so obviously im finding any and all means of not doing work, and am here.
Nnamdi Onyeyiri wrote:
What have I missed here?
This place is a lot like Eastenders. You can miss an entire years episodes and still pick it up where you left off.
Nnamdi Onyeyiri wrote:
Its coming up to exam time now, so obviously im finding any and all means of not doing work, and am here
It's good to see you still have your priorities right. :-D
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
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David Wulff wrote:
In that case you really need to supplement typing code with other hobbies. I'm not being rude, but you really don't want it to develop as an addiction.
Why? :|
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Because addictions remove focus and become a means onto themselves. If you want to program because you enjoy it, you don't want it to become an addiction or you will never enjoy it.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
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"Experience is the only thing that will help you, and the only way you can get that is through varied exposure to programming. Do you have a job as a developer? If not then finding one where you can work on varied tasks with huge amounts of pressure should give you the rewards you seek without becoming too overbearing, and the opportunities for advancement should fall at your feet." Sarcassm? Seriously - I'm not sure. I've been writing code for 25 years... longer if you add the overtime (paid and unpaid). Maybe I'm maturing or I have the post Christmas blues, but "huge amounts of pressure" gets old real fast. My practical experience has been that you can jump tall buildings, your hero status *may* last for 1 day, then it resumes with "what have you done for me today?" status. What say you? As far as the desire to be a super programmer, I would heed the advice to maintain a balance in life... the Carribean is calling me right now.....
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams
charlieg wrote:
My practical experience has been that you can jump tall buildings, your hero status *may* last for 1 day, then it resumes with "what have you done for me today?" status
I was under the impression that Heinze did not care what his peers thought, but rather was looking for his own rewards. Not being corporately rewarded for your acheivements is nothing new, and nothing unique to software development. Skill advancement is your responsibility to seek out and apply in the situations that are open to you, not your employers.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
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How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?
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I love it when someone says "How do I become super-experienced in a short amount of time"? It's just like saying "how do I get rich quick?". Go get in Amway or something - you'll find that "getting rich quick" doesn't work any more than becoming a "super programmer" overnight does! Here's your answer. Do it for awhile - then you can join the rest of us that have been doing it for 30 years and you'll look like a "super" programmer. -CB :)
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By starting off being a mediocre one, and programming, programming, programming! And then one day waking up and realizing that the trick to writing the most complex systems imaginable is to make them out of the most simplest pieces possible. :badger: Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithAnother way to improve your programming skills is to read other peoples programs. This is one of the main reasons I am involved in several open source projects. I get to read other smart peoples code.
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Captain See SharpHow do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?
First Switch to R&D and second expand your horizons. Third learn languages that force YOU to do the work, understand the computer and how it works, or heck, get in and check out the assembly generated by your code to understand how it functions inside a computer. Fourth (or should that be Forth ;) ) give up absolutes in that sentence and you will be fine. "Any Algorithm" reminds me too much of my first boss, if one program takes 5 minutes to write, then all programs of any complexity take 5 minutes to write. All algorithms take the time that they take, especially in R&D. Back in '94 I wrote an algorithm inside an OpenGL class, all of 10 lines of code, half the industry was suing to get their hands on it. Algorithms are thoughts in code form. You have to have the idea before you can write it, that means creativity... Which brings us to Fifth.... Boost your creativity. Writing new algorithms vs. coding other people's designs is from creativity. http://www.creativitybootcamp.com/[^]
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Hmmm...KISS??? Usually I find the simplest designs as the most excellent example of a super programmer... If I can go in and begin understanding code immediately (better yet the architecture) I consider that something super!!! Cheers :)
It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!
Hockey wrote:
Hmmm...KISS??
But that is vacation subject matter! :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)