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  • C Christian Graus

    IQ tests are a great way of testing people's ability to pass IQ tests. They are heavily weighted according to the preconcieved ideas of what intelligent people should know. having said that, no reputable IQ test will ask you questions about history. But, even if it doesn't, it means little.

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    CastorTiu
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    This Internet test asks about 5 or 6 history questions over the 36 questions in total, which I think I failed in 7 :laugh:

    -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

      CastorTiu wrote:

      how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII

      That doesn't sound like an IQ test, it sounds like a test of knowledge. There's a big difference. It was Winston Churchill, by the way.

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      Winston Churchill was indeed PM for all the "we're going to kick some Nazi rear-end" bits of the war, but Neville Chaimberlain was PM of Great Britain during the "maybe we can pretend this isn't happening" bits of the war. Off topic? I ran out of Adderol....try writing code this way and not leaving orphaned events littered all over the enterprise that need handled.... :sigh:

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      • C CastorTiu

        My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

        -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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        El Corazon
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        I prefer: http://www.creativitybootcamp.com/resources.htm[^] creativity over IQ. :)

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        • C CastorTiu

          My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

          -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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          I got 119. I bet I could do better if I took it again. I don't like the history questions though. I don't know or care about 500 year old people.

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          • C CastorTiu

            My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

            -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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            cechode
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            i guessed 100 % of the questions got 100 as my score i know one thing's for sure; i have no idea what that means

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            • C Christian Graus

              IQ tests are a great way of testing people's ability to pass IQ tests. They are heavily weighted according to the preconcieved ideas of what intelligent people should know. having said that, no reputable IQ test will ask you questions about history. But, even if it doesn't, it means little.

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              peterchen
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              IQ tests are a great way of testing people's ability to pass IQ tests.

              You said it :) But you can at least train for them...


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              • C CastorTiu

                My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

                -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                118, but IQ tests differ a lot. My scores on the I-net all go between 110 and 136. ;P Let's just say that I'm not (completely) stupid :-D.

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                • C CastorTiu

                  My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

                  -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                  Ed Poore
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                  I like others don't think it was a proper IQ test because you were asked general knowledge questions rather than "solving problems". However for the benefit of others, my IQ from that was 115 but other tests I've done have consistently come in at around 130-135.


                  I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.

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                  • P peterchen

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    IQ tests are a great way of testing people's ability to pass IQ tests.

                    You said it :) But you can at least train for them...


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                    peterchen wrote:

                    But you can at least train for them...

                    That's one of the things I point out to people who think that IQ tests are a precise measurement of intelligence. "If I can take an IQ test, then study some more on the areas it covers, and take it again and get a higher score, how can the IQ test be an accurate measure of my natural intelligence?"

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                    • C CastorTiu

                      My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

                      -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                      Roger Alsing 0
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                      That was in no way an IQ test. Im from sweden and dont know much about your history or politicians (I know about our own) does that mean I have a lower IQ than the average american then? pure IQ tests are completely free of that kind of things, It will only deal with logic/problem solving. try this instead: http://mensa.dk/testiq.html[^] (press "start testen" button , there are no danish text on the actual test) thats the danish Mensa online test. Scored 133 (with spread 15, 152 on spread 24) on that one :-)

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                      • C CastorTiu

                        My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

                        -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                        CastorTiu wrote:

                        For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer.

                        You don't need them to take a test to work out that a programmer would have a higher IQ than a lawyer.

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                        • C CastorTiu

                          My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

                          -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                          Rage
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                          CastorTiu wrote:

                          I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII

                          :wtf: Well everybody knows it was Ronald Reagan. :rolleyes:

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                            I got 119. I bet I could do better if I took it again. I don't like the history questions though. I don't know or care about 500 year old people.

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                            Rage
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                            "I don't know or care about 500 year old people." IMO, this is a proof of low IQ.

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                            • C CastorTiu

                              I did the TA^3 test on the same page and I got 121 this time.

                              -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                              hairy_hats
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                              I found the same discrepancy - 121 on the "easy" test and 133 on the "hard" one! The general knowledge questions should definitely not be there.

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                              • C CastorTiu

                                My boy soon will go to kindergarten and I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school, so I decided to research about what is this about. I found a very interesting link http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/[^] where you can take a free test without ask for the email address :) For first time I did an IQ test and I got a good score but I think a person with a background on mathematics and logic has a lot more chances over a person without it, I think a programmer will get a higher score than a very good lawyer. I’m sure I did wrong on history, how the heck am I supposed to know who was the prime minister of UK on the WWII when on that time my country was not even very populated with just 13M people, unless I had studied the WWII on my own is just can guess. I’m not sure how high accuracy those tests have. I have curiosity what could be the average score for programmers in CP.

                                -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                                CastorTiu wrote:

                                I heard that kids get an IQ test before star elementary school,

                                I don't think IQ tests mean anything much.

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  IQ tests are a great way of testing people's ability to pass IQ tests. They are heavily weighted according to the preconcieved ideas of what intelligent people should know. having said that, no reputable IQ test will ask you questions about history. But, even if it doesn't, it means little.

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                                  Bijesh
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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  IQ tests are a great way of testing people's ability to pass IQ tests.

                                  Exactly :-D But I guess an IQ test is a good way of preparing a child for many years of being measured by the same yardstick as millions of other children.

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                                  • R Roger Alsing 0

                                    That was in no way an IQ test. Im from sweden and dont know much about your history or politicians (I know about our own) does that mean I have a lower IQ than the average american then? pure IQ tests are completely free of that kind of things, It will only deal with logic/problem solving. try this instead: http://mensa.dk/testiq.html[^] (press "start testen" button , there are no danish text on the actual test) thats the danish Mensa online test. Scored 133 (with spread 15, 152 on spread 24) on that one :-)

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                                    Maybe I should add that I don't agree much with the whole IQ thing, even though I get good scores on it. Im pretty sure some people can solve extremely complex tasks w/o getting good scores when deciding what symbol should come after another in some sequence of dots/lines/color etc. Some people are visual and others are not, Im pretty sure this kind of tests favors visual people like myself. Mensa also have a very strict view on whats smart and whats not. eg. they (atleast swedish mensa , Ive asked them) calim that in order to be "smart" you need to be able to solve their tasks under a certain amount of time. so if we take the following scenario: one average human vs a space slug will do the mensa test. the space slug needs 1h per question on order to answer. The human gets 50% of the questions right, and completes it in time. since the human is just average joe, he could not get more correct answers no matter how much time he spends. while the space slug gets 100% of the questions right, but way over deadline. Mensa claims the human is the smartest one. I dont agree.. if the space slug can build spaceships and travel across the galaxy, but he needs quite a bit of time to solve his problems , while the human can solve simple problems fast , Id say the slug is the smartest one here.. just my 2 cent..

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                                      That was in no way an IQ test. Im from sweden and dont know much about your history or politicians (I know about our own) does that mean I have a lower IQ than the average american then? pure IQ tests are completely free of that kind of things, It will only deal with logic/problem solving. try this instead: http://mensa.dk/testiq.html[^] (press "start testen" button , there are no danish text on the actual test) thats the danish Mensa online test. Scored 133 (with spread 15, 152 on spread 24) on that one :-)

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                                      Roger J wrote:

                                      That was in no way an IQ test.

                                      Agreed. As many noted these question are not good to test the IQ of a person. I constantly hit #3 for history question having no idea about the answer but having some idea about probability. :-) Any way I only got 112 for the harder one and 114 for the other. I still think whether one can fully measure the brain power using a test. How about those great ideas comes to your mind just before you sleep or while you are riding or walking, can a test measure them? In those cases it is kind of a background thread is doing the processing, not intentional.

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                                        peterchen wrote:

                                        But you can at least train for them...

                                        That's one of the things I point out to people who think that IQ tests are a precise measurement of intelligence. "If I can take an IQ test, then study some more on the areas it covers, and take it again and get a higher score, how can the IQ test be an accurate measure of my natural intelligence?"

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                                        Simple, your intelligence has increased ;P


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                                        • R Roger Alsing 0

                                          That was in no way an IQ test. Im from sweden and dont know much about your history or politicians (I know about our own) does that mean I have a lower IQ than the average american then? pure IQ tests are completely free of that kind of things, It will only deal with logic/problem solving. try this instead: http://mensa.dk/testiq.html[^] (press "start testen" button , there are no danish text on the actual test) thats the danish Mensa online test. Scored 133 (with spread 15, 152 on spread 24) on that one :-)

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                                          I did that one, I got there 130/15, 146/24, it changes a lot between different tests.

                                          -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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