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  • E El Corazon

    Chris S Kaiser wrote:

    Or, another way to look at it is: we don't mind seeing it in your sig, if we're curious we'll hit the link, but we don't want to talk about it all the time.

    5-5-5-5-5-5-5!

    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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    Ya know, this is an excellent opportunity to refine the craft of simplifying the point. I'm finding that its been quite difficult to boil down the issue to the simplest form possible such that contradiction is impossible. Don't know if I succeed that much, but this one above seemed to do it. And you got my 5 as change. I only needed 6. :laugh:

    What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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      S Douglas wrote:

      It's been said before many times but seriously, you would serve your cause much better by not shoving it down peoples throats every time you post.

      He doesn't really shove it down anyone's throat (not recently anyway). But a lot of people don't like him here and so blindly vote him down. I'd say I am surprised that people are so obsessed with him that they go out of their way to track down his posts just so they can vote it down.

      Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

      blindly vote him down

      I tend not to vote at all any more. It seems to be food for the trolls.


      I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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      • C Chris S Kaiser

        Or, another way to look at it is: we don't mind seeing it in your sig, if we're curious we'll hit the link, but we don't want to talk about it all the time.

        What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

        Or, another way to look at it is: we don't mind seeing it in your sig, if we're curious we'll hit the link, but we don't want to talk about it all the time.

        Well said!


        I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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        • L Lost User

          The Grand Negus wrote:

          Why should CoffeeAddict19 suffer because of either my (perceived) past or other - supposedly uninvolved - members?

          He didnt. He would have received your post via email

          System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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          Josh Gray wrote:

          He didnt. He would have received your post via email

          Only the first so many characters. The details of the offer would have fallen off the end - at least that's how the emails CodeProject sends me look.

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            The Grand Negus wrote:

            Is that a reasonable algorithm for a public forum?

            Maybe you're expecting too much from Code Project.

            The Grand Negus wrote:

            The thing is, I'm not writing to or for them, whoever they are. In this case, I am writing to CoffeeAddict19. And I want to give CoffeeAddict19 as much meaningful information as possible regarding what I'm proposing.

            Well, when you change your help to a plug, then you're helping yourself and not the original poster. If you had left the response to just the blurb about GDI, then it would have been valid. But you used that opportunity to plug your product. That amounts to spam even though you cleverly disguised it as assistance.

            What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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            Chris S Kaiser wrote:

            If you had left the response to just the blurb about GDI, then it would have been valid. But you used that opportunity to plug your product. That amounts to spam even though you cleverly disguised it as assistance.

            So if a teacher benefits, in any way from his teaching, then his teaching is rendered inappropriate? Ridiculous. Even teachers in public schools get paid for their efforts (and most of them wouldn't show up if they didn't). My offer was to share and teach. Whether that develops into a long term business relationship, a friendship, or monetary gain (for either party) is beside the point. I offered to share with the guy what he said he wanted to know, using the best sample code I have available for the purpose. A reasonable - and very generous - offer.

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              Chris S Kaiser wrote:

              If you had left the response to just the blurb about GDI, then it would have been valid. But you used that opportunity to plug your product. That amounts to spam even though you cleverly disguised it as assistance.

              So if a teacher benefits, in any way from his teaching, then his teaching is rendered inappropriate? Ridiculous. Even teachers in public schools get paid for their efforts (and most of them wouldn't show up if they didn't). My offer was to share and teach. Whether that develops into a long term business relationship, a friendship, or monetary gain (for either party) is beside the point. I offered to share with the guy what he said he wanted to know, using the best sample code I have available for the purpose. A reasonable - and very generous - offer.

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              Well, I find it contentious at best when you call people who work for money "whores" yet you can't seem to give assistance without being able to attempt profit from it. The main point of service is that you do it for no reward. This is a site to offer free help. There are other sites where you can make money for offering assistance, this isn't one of them.

              What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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                Well, I find it contentious at best when you call people who work for money "whores" yet you can't seem to give assistance without being able to attempt profit from it. The main point of service is that you do it for no reward. This is a site to offer free help. There are other sites where you can make money for offering assistance, this isn't one of them.

                What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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                Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                The main point of service is that you do it for no reward.

                This is simply not true. The main point of service is to serve - whether you profit from the service or not is a side issue. If you're serving well you'll at least benefit from the satisfaction of a job well done - or are we not allowed to extract enjoyment from our service either? Does Maunder provide a service to others with this website? Yes. Does he profit from it? Yes again. In fact, he's got all sorts of volunteers helping him make money; and he's always looking for more! I don't have a problem with that, because I understand that if he's providing a service, he deserves his wages. But you should have a problem with that, since you think "the main point of service is that you do it for no reward". Nonsense.

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                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  He didnt. He would have received your post via email

                  Only the first so many characters. The details of the offer would have fallen off the end - at least that's how the emails CodeProject sends me look.

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                  The Grand Negus wrote:

                  Only the first so many characters

                  Well perhaps you should be a little less long winded in future :)

                  System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                    Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                    The main point of service is that you do it for no reward.

                    This is simply not true. The main point of service is to serve - whether you profit from the service or not is a side issue. If you're serving well you'll at least benefit from the satisfaction of a job well done - or are we not allowed to extract enjoyment from our service either? Does Maunder provide a service to others with this website? Yes. Does he profit from it? Yes again. In fact, he's got all sorts of volunteers helping him make money; and he's always looking for more! I don't have a problem with that, because I understand that if he's providing a service, he deserves his wages. But you should have a problem with that, since you think "the main point of service is that you do it for no reward". Nonsense.

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                    Chris S Kaiser
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                    Do you argue with every thing? Whatever. Spam and get your messages removed. You can try to justify it all you want, but it is wrong. Enjoy.

                    What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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                    • C Chris S Kaiser

                      Do you argue with every thing? Whatever. Spam and get your messages removed. You can try to justify it all you want, but it is wrong. Enjoy.

                      What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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                      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                      Whatever.

                      "Whatever?" Wrong answer. The correct response is: "I thought about what you said and you're right. One can serve and profit from that service at the same time; like Maunder does with his website. It is a side issue. I was wrong. Sorry."

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                        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                        Whatever.

                        "Whatever?" Wrong answer. The correct response is: "I thought about what you said and you're right. One can serve and profit from that service at the same time; like Maunder does with his website. It is a side issue. I was wrong. Sorry."

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                        The Grand Negus wrote:

                        "Whatever?" Wrong answer.

                        Wrong! It was the right answer. The correct response is what I decide, and not what you decide, unless you want to talk to yourself.

                        The Grand Negus wrote:

                        "I thought about what you said and you're right. One can serve and profit from that service at the same time; like Maunder does with his website. It is a side issue. I was wrong. Sorry."

                        HAhahahahaha! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I don't think so. That I would not say. But you seem to quote the bible alot and I don't think Jesus would accept profiteering in service as a motive. Accidental is one thing, as you suggest, and this is why its recommended to place a link in your signature. But to pimp your stuff is altogether different.

                        What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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