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  • J JimmyRopes

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    No

    Did you mean strNo? :~

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    Christian Graus
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    Didn't Josh do that joke above ?

    Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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      Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

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      I agree, using _ is just ugly and hard to type. Unfortunatly I'm stuck at a client right now who insists on using it. Reason? Because we've always done it that way :rolleyes:


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      • R Roger Wright

        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        you shouldn't be looking at the private members

        It's considered quite rude in my neighborhood.

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        Roger Wright wrote:

        It's considered quite rude in my neighborhood.

        It is the same here.... perhaps this is a southwest thing?

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        • R Rocky Moore

          Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

          Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          • C Christian Graus

            I don't like m_, and I need to use _ in order to write code that is CLS compliant ( because VB sucks ). Having a private variable that has a totally different name to the public property is just untenable.

            Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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            Rocky Moore
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            As long as you keep it in VB everyone should be happy :)

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            • C Christian Graus

              Didn't Josh do that joke above ?

              Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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              JimmyRopes
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              • R Rocky Moore

                Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                Taka Muraoka
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                Rocky Moore wrote:

                Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members?

                IIRC, symbols with a leading _ are reserved for the system. This is for C but probably carried over to C++, although it probably doesn't apply for class members. It'd be dumb to use them, though, quite apart from the fact it looks butt-ugly. I always used to use "m_" for member variables and hated it, until I had an epiphany and saw someone using just "m" (e.g. mMemberVariable). So much nicer :cool:


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                • R Rocky Moore

                  Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                  Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                  I tend to adapt to the convention of the framework I'm writing it in. For MFC/ATL it was m_. I've been using the VCF recently and most member vars are post fixed with "_", like window_. Took some getting used, to but it actually adds a bit of whitespace, so it almost makes things more readable. If you want to be able to read code like it was a novel, become a member of the Osmosian Order. :laugh::laugh::laugh: (Sorry, couldn't resist) Anyway, the older I get the more whitespace I need to make the code more readable, so I tend to like the underscores. JMHO.


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                  • R Rocky Moore

                    Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                    Nirosh
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                    Some kind of a prefix is good since it will group the members with the same access level together in the tool tip, provided by the IDE.

                    L.W.C. Nirosh. Colombo, Sri Lanka.

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                    • R Rocky Moore

                      Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                      Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                      Mohamed Meligy
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                      I use - Pascal casing with "_" prefix for proivate members. - Pascal casing for local variables. - Camel casing for public properties, and all methods. This is meant to make reading code "easier". It's also Mirosoft naming BTW, you can find it in the class library developer guidance. Mohamed Ahmed Meligy Software Engineer SilverKey.us[^] - Egypt Branch http://GeeksWithBlogs.NET/Mohamed[^] -- modified at 0:42 Tuesday 16th January, 2007

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                      • R Rocky Moore

                        Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                        Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                        hswear3
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                        Personally I also hate underscores. And so does FxCop! Since according to Microsoft guidelines local parameters should be camel-cased, I use Pascal case for class members. So, instead of "mVariable" or "m_Variable" or "_Variable", I simply use "Variable." Herb :)

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                        • R Rocky Moore

                          Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                          Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                          Michael P Butler
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                          Rocky Moore wrote:

                          Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                          I do in my .NET code. All my class member variables are _ prefixed. Of course most of the time, I access them via Properties rather than directly using the variable. I can't remembered why I moved to _ prefix. It was either because FxCop whined about it or because of some VB issue. In C++, I used m_ so the _prefix is kind of keeping up a long tradition.

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                          • R Rocky Moore

                            Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                            Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            I use pascal notation with an "_" for the private members. Picked up the habit at from my uncle ( he was a crack shot C coder working for ComputerVision out of Mass.) and I kept with it. It actually improves readability.

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                            • R Rocky Moore

                              Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                              Stick
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                              Isn't there a saying, "When in Windows, do as Microsoft?" I use m_ mainly as it groups all the member vars together in my suggestions box, however with VA X, if I didn't, I could just click to display only the private members or whatever. But it saves me a click. Read a good discussion about it in Code Complete 2nd Edition. Patrick

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                              • R Rocky Moore

                                Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                                Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                                Tim Craig
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                                No! And I don't like seeing it on members in public either. ;P

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                                  Isn't there a saying, "When in Windows, do as Microsoft?" I use m_ mainly as it groups all the member vars together in my suggestions box, however with VA X, if I didn't, I could just click to display only the private members or whatever. But it saves me a click. Read a good discussion about it in Code Complete 2nd Edition. Patrick

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                                  Stick^ wrote:

                                  Read a good discussion about it in Code Complete 2nd Edition.

                                  I didn't get there yet, but yesterday I read capitol where is suggested that it might be good idea to prefix input parameters with i_, output parameters by o_ and parameters that will be modified by.... m_ ! :wtf:


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                                  • R Rocky Moore

                                    Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                                    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                                    Bruce Chapman DNN
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                                    I think like flared jeans and miniskirts, all fads have their time in the sun more than once. You can either sit on your high horse and declare all those around you to be of inferior quality, or you can join in the fun and just go with the flow. I used to adjHungarian nounEverything, nounNow nounIt vrbDrives pronounMe vrbInsane. (please no comments on grammar, i've no idea on sentence structure) I've gotten used to using _memberVar. It's handy because it allows you to use the same var twice in the one procedure, one for an incoming local value, and one for the _member version. I suspect in three years I'll be doing a global 'find/replace' on the _ character. To whatever is in fashion then. How else can you feel nostalgic looking at old code??

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                                    • R Rocky Moore

                                      Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?

                                      Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                                      Stuart Dootson
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                                      I use '_' as a suffix for private member data (which means either all member data of a class or none of it) in C++. However, the rest of the naming is camel-case (capitalized for functions and classes):

                                      class SampleClass
                                      {
                                      public:
                                         int SomeMethod() const;
                                      private:
                                         int aDataMember_;
                                      };
                                      
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                                      • A Aaron VanWieren

                                        Can't stand _them. Sorry to butt in on this, but this is one thing I truly hate. Isn't this part of or all of the Hungarian notation? Which has historical roots in early programming?

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                                        Chris_Green
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                                        You'll love this: I use both, but consistently. Any variable which belong in the header file is prefixed with m_ Any control is prefixed with _TypeDescriptor such as _EditTest or _ButtonGo. It does make working with the code, especially via IntelliSense, remarkably easy. All the variables are nicely grouped. And all the controls are grouped separately and sorted by type.

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                                        • J JimmyRopes

                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          No

                                          Did you mean strNo? :~

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          JimmyRopes wrote:

                                          Did you mean strNo?

                                          Surely it's lpszNo.

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