What do you think?
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Rocky Moore wrote:
Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members?
NO! Marc
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NO!
I think you mean _NO! :-D
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Rocky Moore wrote:
but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed
Well theoretically, you shouldn't be looking at the private members (either fields or functions), unless you are maintaining someone else's code.
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you shouldn't be looking at the private members
It's considered quite rude in my neighborhood.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
you shouldn't be looking at the private members
It's considered quite rude in my neighborhood.
"...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
:laugh:
Regards, Nish
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
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I don't like m_, and I need to use _ in order to write code that is CLS compliant ( because VB sucks ). Having a private variable that has a totally different name to the public property is just untenable.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert
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Can't stand _them. Sorry to butt in on this, but this is one thing I truly hate. Isn't this part of or all of the Hungarian notation? Which has historical roots in early programming?
avanwieren wrote:
Isn't this part of or all of the Hungarian notation?
No. m_ is part of hungarian notation, but the main thing is to prefix the type as in m_hwndTheWindowHandle, m_nWindowCount.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert
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avanwieren wrote:
Isn't this part of or all of the Hungarian notation?
No. m_ is part of hungarian notation, but the main thing is to prefix the type as in m_hwndTheWindowHandle, m_nWindowCount.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert
Christian Graus wrote:
No
Did you mean strNo? :~
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
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_SomeVariable sucks, but I always use m_SomeVariable, both in C++ (which I fortunately still use) and in C#.
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!
Rocky Moore wrote:
I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain!
I hate way too many things, but no code conventions are among them :) . Just use whatever the rest of the gang uses.
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Christian Graus wrote:
No
Did you mean strNo? :~
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
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I agree, using _ is just ugly and hard to type. Unfortunatly I'm stuck at a client right now who insists on using it. Reason? Because we've always done it that way :rolleyes:
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
you shouldn't be looking at the private members
It's considered quite rude in my neighborhood.
"...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
Roger Wright wrote:
It's considered quite rude in my neighborhood.
It is the same here.... perhaps this is a southwest thing?
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
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I don't like m_, and I need to use _ in order to write code that is CLS compliant ( because VB sucks ). Having a private variable that has a totally different name to the public property is just untenable.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert
As long as you keep it in VB everyone should be happy :)
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Didn't Josh do that joke above ?
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_SomethingLikeIt
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!
Rocky Moore wrote:
Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members?
IIRC, symbols with a leading _ are reserved for the system. This is for C but probably carried over to C++, although it probably doesn't apply for class members. It'd be dumb to use them, though, quite apart from the fact it looks butt-ugly. I always used to use "m_" for member variables and hated it, until I had an epiphany and saw someone using just "m" (e.g. mMemberVariable). So much nicer :cool:
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!
I tend to adapt to the convention of the framework I'm writing it in. For MFC/ATL it was m_. I've been using the VCF recently and most member vars are post fixed with "_", like window_. Took some getting used, to but it actually adds a bit of whitespace, so it almost makes things more readable. If you want to be able to read code like it was a novel, become a member of the Osmosian Order. :laugh::laugh::laugh: (Sorry, couldn't resist) Anyway, the older I get the more whitespace I need to make the code more readable, so I tend to like the underscores. JMHO.
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!
I use - Pascal casing with "_" prefix for proivate members. - Pascal casing for local variables. - Camel casing for public properties, and all methods. This is meant to make reading code "easier". It's also Mirosoft naming BTW, you can find it in the class library developer guidance. Mohamed Ahmed Meligy Software Engineer SilverKey.us[^] - Egypt Branch http://GeeksWithBlogs.NET/Mohamed[^] -- modified at 0:42 Tuesday 16th January, 2007
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!
Personally I also hate underscores. And so does FxCop! Since according to Microsoft guidelines local parameters should be camel-cased, I use Pascal case for class members. So, instead of "mVariable" or "m_Variable" or "_Variable", I simply use "Variable." Herb :)
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Well, since John Simmons got his new TV, he probably will be missing for about two days, but for the rest of you: It has been around two years I think since I have asked this question and I am curious as to if people have changed their minds. Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!
Rocky Moore wrote:
Do you use/like the "_" to prefix private members? I personal hate variables prefixed with with _underscores _as _it _can _make _reading _code() _a _pain! In the old days of Assembler and some C code, we lived with it all the time, but I had hoped to never see them again. Now much of the code released by MS has private members prefixed. So, what you think?
I do in my .NET code. All my class member variables are _ prefixed. Of course most of the time, I access them via Properties rather than directly using the variable. I can't remembered why I moved to _ prefix. It was either because FxCop whined about it or because of some VB issue. In C++, I used m_ so the _prefix is kind of keeping up a long tradition.
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