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  • Q quiteSmart

    that's not right at all. why don't you post your answer and let us discuss it :doh::doh:

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    27 eggs 1 step: 9 eggs on the left side of the balande, 9 on the right side and nine on the tabel. now you know, in which of 9 eggs is the different one. 2. step: 3 eggs on the left side of the balaance, .... now you know, in which of 3 eggs is the differnt one. 3. step: 1 egg on the left side of the balance,...... Is there a fault??? Ciao, Gérard

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      27 eggs 1 step: 9 eggs on the left side of the balande, 9 on the right side and nine on the tabel. now you know, in which of 9 eggs is the different one. 2. step: 3 eggs on the left side of the balaance, .... now you know, in which of 3 eggs is the differnt one. 3. step: 1 egg on the left side of the balance,...... Is there a fault??? Ciao, Gérard

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      Colin Angus Mackay
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      Yes, of the last set which is the odd one out. As you don't know whether it is heavier or lighter you only have a chance of being right. In the last set if the two eggs on the balance (one on each side) are equal it is the one on the table, if the two eggs on the balance are unequal then which is it? It isn't the one on the table, but it is on on the balance - but which? It is still a 50/50 split.


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      • Q quiteSmart

        Balazs Zoltan wrote:

        just try to imagine how would you do in real life!

        Give me some hint :-D:-D

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        Zoltan Balazs
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        You know one of the eggs is lighter or heavier. So at the 3rd step you put on the balance 1 egg - 1 egg. If the balance shows that the 2 eggs are equal weight the you know the rest. If you have an electronic balance you need to find another way :)

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        • Z Zoltan Balazs

          You know one of the eggs is lighter or heavier. So at the 3rd step you put on the balance 1 egg - 1 egg. If the balance shows that the 2 eggs are equal weight the you know the rest. If you have an electronic balance you need to find another way :)

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          Read well!!! We don't know which one is heavier:sigh::sigh::sigh:

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          • Z Zoltan Balazs

            You know one of the eggs is lighter or heavier. So at the 3rd step you put on the balance 1 egg - 1 egg. If the balance shows that the 2 eggs are equal weight the you know the rest. If you have an electronic balance you need to find another way :)

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            I found a solution, through creative googling, and it's way more complex than what I think you're thinking

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            • Q quiteSmart

              Read well!!! We don't know which one is heavier:sigh::sigh::sigh:

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              Zoltan Balazs
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              I did, and since you know that one is different by the weight there is a solution.

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              • Z Zoltan Balazs

                I did, and since you know that one is different by the weight there is a solution.

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                What if the last two didn't match? Now you can't try any more.:sigh:

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                  I found a solution, through creative googling, and it's way more complex than what I think you're thinking

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                  benjymous wrote:

                  I found a solution

                  Can you give us the link...

                  benjymous wrote:

                  and it's way more complex than what I think you're thinking

                  I know very well that it is very complex:)

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                  • Q quiteSmart

                    I got this trick question today from a friend of mine. I am trying to solve it. i solve 50 percent of the question solved. Note if you have a lot of work don't continue reading cause it will take some time to be solved. The trick question is: You have infront of you 12 eggs. All have the same color the same shape and the same size (you can not diffrentiate between one and the other by just looking at it). 11 of those 12 eggs have the same weight and one differs (either less or more). The question is to find which one of those 12 is the different one. You have a balance and you can use it only 3 times. I will remind you in one important thing that we don't know if the one egg which is different from the others weighs more or less than any of the other 11 eggs. good luck :) if you think you got the solution send your answer to my mail address jamilabkh@gmail.com to leave some time for others to think about it don't post your answers;)

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                    Zoltan Balazs
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                    quiteSmart wrote:

                    either less or more

                    you're right ... i wasn't paying full atention. if we don't know how the weight difference is (less or more) this is harder :)

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                      quiteSmart wrote:

                      either less or more

                      you're right ... i wasn't paying full atention. if we don't know how the weight difference is (less or more) this is harder :)

                      company, work and everything else www.netis.ro

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                      :-:cool::cool::rose:

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                      • Q quiteSmart

                        What if the last two didn't match? Now you can't try any more.:sigh:

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                        Zoltan Balazs
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                        Anyway you need to use one of the common eggs (one that has the same weight as the rest of the 10 eggs). And use it as a reference. After that all you have to do is to write down an algorithm with every possible situation there.

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                        • C Colin Angus Mackay

                          Yes, of the last set which is the odd one out. As you don't know whether it is heavier or lighter you only have a chance of being right. In the last set if the two eggs on the balance (one on each side) are equal it is the one on the table, if the two eggs on the balance are unequal then which is it? It isn't the one on the table, but it is on on the balance - but which? It is still a 50/50 split.


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                          :-O You are right. I knew this trick with finding out a havier one. So it's more difficult of course - sorry :-O, Gérard

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                            nut goop

                            That would be good to add to the pancake mix, some nuts, making a nut goop. You're full of excellent ideas today! :-D


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                            Frank Kerrigan
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                            :-D


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                              :-:cool::cool::rose:

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                              swjam
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                              i got it in 5 minutes but i think i just got lucky... can this really be solved using a mathematical formula? i think i remember someone posting a x=11y+z or something like that... can i give a hint to the solution or is someone else solving? :zzz: :-D

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                                i got it in 5 minutes but i think i just got lucky... can this really be solved using a mathematical formula? i think i remember someone posting a x=11y+z or something like that... can i give a hint to the solution or is someone else solving? :zzz: :-D

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                                It has been 3 hours and 15 minutes since this was thread was posted so if you have an answer just post it:rose:

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                                • Q quiteSmart

                                  benjymous wrote:

                                  I found a solution

                                  Can you give us the link...

                                  benjymous wrote:

                                  and it's way more complex than what I think you're thinking

                                  I know very well that it is very complex:)

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                                  Chris Morgan
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                                  There might be a complicated solution, but it also seems like there is one that is quite simple. Actually the simple solution would work for up to 18 eggs... Hint, it involves dividing the eggs into 3 groups to start with.

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                                    I got this trick question today from a friend of mine. I am trying to solve it. i solve 50 percent of the question solved. Note if you have a lot of work don't continue reading cause it will take some time to be solved. The trick question is: You have infront of you 12 eggs. All have the same color the same shape and the same size (you can not diffrentiate between one and the other by just looking at it). 11 of those 12 eggs have the same weight and one differs (either less or more). The question is to find which one of those 12 is the different one. You have a balance and you can use it only 3 times. I will remind you in one important thing that we don't know if the one egg which is different from the others weighs more or less than any of the other 11 eggs. good luck :) if you think you got the solution send your answer to my mail address jamilabkh@gmail.com to leave some time for others to think about it don't post your answers;)

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                                    why take the balance, drop them from a high altitude all at once, the one that falls sooner or later is the egg :-)

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                                      why take the balance, drop them from a high altitude all at once, the one that falls sooner or later is the egg :-)

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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                      Duh... that won't work. Galileo proved it way back in God-knows-which century. A 100 kg iron ball will fall at the same rate as a 1 kg ball from the same height.

                                      Cheers, Vikram.


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                                        Duh... that won't work. Galileo proved it way back in God-knows-which century. A 100 kg iron ball will fall at the same rate as a 1 kg ball from the same height.

                                        Cheers, Vikram.


                                        "Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.

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                                        it will if you have no vacuum...

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                                          it will if you have no vacuum...

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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                          Unless I'm very mistaken, bodies fall at the same rate towards the Earth (or any other body) at the same rate. The ideal condition is vacuum, but if there is air/wind, it offers significant resistance; which explains why a block of wood falls faster than a feather. I still stand by what I said; I don't understand the point you're trying to make. :~

                                          Cheers, Vikram.


                                          "Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.

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