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U.S. official: Chinese test missile obliterates satellite [modified]

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  • L Lost User

    Christian Graus wrote:

    why don't they just make them in the US ?

    They cant pay workers pennies a day because that would cut profits. They are taking advantage of the workers in China to make more money.

    Christian Graus wrote:

    No, what needs to be paid for is endorsements and marketing.

    Clothing is way too expensive, you don't need to advertise clothing all that much because everyone needs and buys clothes. I'm tired of paying big bucks for a jacket that will fall apart after a few months(it always happens to me). I just bought a pair of boots for over $80 USD a couple months ago and the laces are falling apart. They are suppose to be high quality rugged work boots. I bought them so I wouldn't have to worry about them falling apart on me and I don't want to buy another pair of shoes for at least another couple years. Quality is sacrificed for optimal profits.

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    Captain See Sharp wrote:

    They are taking advantage of the workers in China to make more money.

    Who is?

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      why don't they just make them in the US ?

      They cant pay workers pennies a day because that would cut profits. They are taking advantage of the workers in China to make more money.

      Christian Graus wrote:

      No, what needs to be paid for is endorsements and marketing.

      Clothing is way too expensive, you don't need to advertise clothing all that much because everyone needs and buys clothes. I'm tired of paying big bucks for a jacket that will fall apart after a few months(it always happens to me). I just bought a pair of boots for over $80 USD a couple months ago and the laces are falling apart. They are suppose to be high quality rugged work boots. I bought them so I wouldn't have to worry about them falling apart on me and I don't want to buy another pair of shoes for at least another couple years. Quality is sacrificed for optimal profits.

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      Captain See Sharp wrote:

      They are taking advantage of the workers in China to make more money.

      No, you are.  You take advantage of them when you buy the clothes.

      Captain See Sharp wrote:

      Quality is sacrificed for optimal profits.

      Of course, and you keep buying the goods.  That's not really the point, tho.  The Chinese economy is a success for two reasons 1 - the people being paid pennies probably have a higher standard of living than those who are not 2 - people keep buying the goods You can blame the clothing companies all you want.  If you buy brand name clothes, you're paying for the marketing campaign.  If you buy cheap clothes, they are cheap because of where they are made.

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        Captain See Sharp wrote:

        They are taking advantage of the workers in China to make more money.

        No, you are.  You take advantage of them when you buy the clothes.

        Captain See Sharp wrote:

        Quality is sacrificed for optimal profits.

        Of course, and you keep buying the goods.  That's not really the point, tho.  The Chinese economy is a success for two reasons 1 - the people being paid pennies probably have a higher standard of living than those who are not 2 - people keep buying the goods You can blame the clothing companies all you want.  If you buy brand name clothes, you're paying for the marketing campaign.  If you buy cheap clothes, they are cheap because of where they are made.

        Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        You can blame the clothing companies all you want. If you buy brand name clothes, you're paying for the marketing campaign. If you buy cheap clothes, they are cheap because of where they are made.

        What do you think about Bloodstone's anouncement last week that the boots will no longer be made in Tassie?

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          Captain See Sharp wrote:

          They are taking advantage of the workers in China to make more money.

          Who is?

          System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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          Josh Gray wrote:

          Who is?

          The businesses that outsource to China.

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          • L Lost User

            Josh Gray wrote:

            Who is?

            The businesses that outsource to China.

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            Captain See Sharp wrote:

            The businesses that outsource to China.

            The majority of which come from what country?

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              Captain See Sharp wrote:

              They are taking advantage of the workers in China to make more money.

              No, you are.  You take advantage of them when you buy the clothes.

              Captain See Sharp wrote:

              Quality is sacrificed for optimal profits.

              Of course, and you keep buying the goods.  That's not really the point, tho.  The Chinese economy is a success for two reasons 1 - the people being paid pennies probably have a higher standard of living than those who are not 2 - people keep buying the goods You can blame the clothing companies all you want.  If you buy brand name clothes, you're paying for the marketing campaign.  If you buy cheap clothes, they are cheap because of where they are made.

              Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              No, you are. You take advantage of them when you buy the clothes.

              Not really, I would rather buy American made products because I have more confidence in the product. I never really pay attention to where things are made when I buy them anyways.

              Christian Graus wrote:

              Of course, and you keep buying the goods.

              Yep.

              Christian Graus wrote:

              You can blame the clothing companies all you want. If you buy brand name clothes, you're paying for the marketing campaign. If you buy cheap clothes, they are cheap because of where they are made.

              Cant disagree.

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              • L Lost User

                Captain See Sharp wrote:

                The businesses that outsource to China.

                The majority of which come from what country?

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                Josh Gray wrote:

                The majority of which come from what country?

                I don't really know but it does not matter, its out of my control regardless.

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                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  The majority of which come from what country?

                  I don't really know but it does not matter, its out of my control regardless.

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                  Captain See Sharp wrote:

                  but it does not matter,

                  It does matter. You are being critical of China, a country and a people you know next to nothing about when really the people that are causing the problem you are complaining about are products of our western culture.

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                    Captain See Sharp wrote:

                    but it does not matter,

                    It does matter. You are being critical of China, a country and a people you know next to nothing about when really the people that are causing the problem you are complaining about are products of our western culture.

                    System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                    Josh Gray wrote:

                    It does matter. You are being critical of China, a country and a people you know next to nothing about when really the people that are causing the problem you are complaining about are products of our western culture.

                    Of course I am critical of China, they are a communist country. I'm not blaming them for outsourcing, they aren't forcing businesses to outsource.

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                      Code2326 wrote:

                      They can't even let China shoot down one of their OWN satellite without the world knowing.

                      Low Earth-orbit satellites have become indispensable for U.S. military communications, GPS navigation for smart bombs and troops, and for real-time surveillance. The Chinese test highlights the satellites' vulnerability. "If we, for instance, got into a conflict over Taiwan, one of the first things they'd probably do would be to shoot down all of our lower Earth-orbit spy satellites, putting out our eyes," said John Pike of globalsecurity.org, a Web site that compiles information on worldwide security issues. "The thing that is surprising and disturbing is that [the Chinese] have chosen this moment to demonstrate a military capability that can only be aimed at the United States," he said. I don't like it. If I remember right Bill Clinton sold China that technology.

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                      Captain See Sharp wrote:

                      If I remember right Bill Clinton sold China that technology.

                      Maybe his wife can ask for it back...

                      Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis. I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        You can blame the clothing companies all you want. If you buy brand name clothes, you're paying for the marketing campaign. If you buy cheap clothes, they are cheap because of where they are made.

                        What do you think about Bloodstone's anouncement last week that the boots will no longer be made in Tassie?

                        System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Blundstones ? It made front page of the paper, or I wouldn't know. I buy Oliver boots - they're made near Bendigo, I am told. They rock. But, as for the rest, it's a shame to see some people go from minimum wage to the dole, but, I don't blame the company for wanting to stay in the market. I'm surprised they held out as long as they did.

                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                          Josh Gray wrote:

                          It does matter. You are being critical of China, a country and a people you know next to nothing about when really the people that are causing the problem you are complaining about are products of our western culture.

                          Of course I am critical of China, they are a communist country. I'm not blaming them for outsourcing, they aren't forcing businesses to outsource.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Captain See Sharp wrote:

                          Of course I am critical of China, they are a communist country.

                          This means - of course I am critical of them, this requires no knowledge on my part, I don't need to justify my opinion, because I'm forming the opinion AFTER deciding I hate someone, on the basis of politics.

                          Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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                            Don't know if it's been posted before but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/01/18/china.missile/index.html What do you think of it? Who actually thinks China is the one starting the arms space race? This is probably one of the things I don't like about US, is that they butt into other countries business. They can't even let China shoot down one of their OWN satellite without the world knowing. How would it be wrong if a country test their experiments on their side of the air space? -- modified at 21:33 Sunday 21st January, 2007

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                            Code2326 wrote:

                            Who actually thinks China is the one starting the arms space race?

                            The race started long, long ago when Von Braun was still a SS officer using slave laborers from concentration camps[^] to build his missiles to strike Allied cities.

                            Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              I think this is on the edge of soapbox material... Are you saying that if China were to blow up their satellite in space, there is no way that a big bit of it could fall to earth, and crash into a country other than China ? There's no way that bits of it couldn't damage another satellite ? "Britain has complained about lack of consultation before the test and potential damage from the debris it left behind"

                              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                              Chris S Kaiser
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                              I wonder if the US ever done this.

                              What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder

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