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  • M Maximilien

    I think it's just bad taste pointing someone like that in the Lounge. Just vote down the article and/or offer comments locally to the article; The article will put in the purgatory.


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    Colin Angus Mackay
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    Maximilien wrote:

    The article will put in the purgatory

    I was about to correct a little gramatical mistake you had in there, but then I realised one of the possible corrections would sound totally absurd. The article will get put in the purgatory "get" generally being used as the opposite of "put" it makes it sound very odd. e.g. "I get the apples off the shelf." Now reverse the action. "I put the apples on the shelf." Back to the original statement. You can also say: The article will be put in the purgatory


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      I know it's not polite to comment on people's bios, bus this particular author's bio says :- I am currently the Director of Engineering at Citynet. We're a CLEC/IXC/ISP. My only time spent developing any more is management of my tasks here and some consulting here and there. With 19 years in the IT field, I'm MCSD, MCSE, MCT, A+, Net+, iNet+, Security+, CCIP, CCSP, CCVP, CCNP, CCDP and pretty much every other certification known to man. And I find it hard to believe that someone with that sort of profile can write this sort of code or article. :~

      Regards, Nish


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      Mark Salsbery
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      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

      And I find it hard to believe that someone with that sort of profile can write this sort of code or article.

      I don't see ASP.NET anywhere in the list.

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      • C Colin Angus Mackay

        Maximilien wrote:

        The article will put in the purgatory

        I was about to correct a little gramatical mistake you had in there, but then I realised one of the possible corrections would sound totally absurd. The article will get put in the purgatory "get" generally being used as the opposite of "put" it makes it sound very odd. e.g. "I get the apples off the shelf." Now reverse the action. "I put the apples on the shelf." Back to the original statement. You can also say: The article will be put in the purgatory


        Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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        RC_Sebastien_C
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        "I think it's just bad taste pointing someone like that" for little gramatical mistakes on an international forum :rolleyes: Seriously, I thought the "be" was simply missed when Maximilien typed, but I'm curious about that last line:

        Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

        The article will be put in the purgatory

        Is removing the "the" a question of style or grammar? That sounded good to me (who speaks English as a second language).

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          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

          And I find it hard to believe that someone with that sort of profile can write this sort of code or article. :~

          Really? It's exactly the sort of profile i'd expect. But then, i have a rather dim view of certifications...

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          Funny because a lot of computer repair places use our software and they are consistently the most likely to *require* support whereas the plumbers and electrians and every other non computer related service company have comparitively few problems. But the real kicker is that some of the worst people to install and use software and follow even basic instructions are those that put those little letters after their name. It's become a red flag of sorts for our support department that we're going to have trouble. I too have a *very* dim view of certifications having been on both sides of the fence, I have all sorts of certifications but I know how to read a lot of info and pass a test fairly easily, I wrote most of my Novell CNE certification test in less than 10 minutes and they are supposed to take an hour or more. But the info I memorized had really little to do with the more important practical knowledge I gained on the job. I'd much rather hire a person with experience and no certifications or a person with interest and no experience or certifications than I would ever consider hiring a person with lot's of certifications and no experience.

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            You guys are brutal!

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Yeah, I'm not impressed at all with their attitude, way too harsh, they should spend their energy giving some constructive criticism to the author, it's easy to sit on the sidelines and snipe at people.

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              Funny because a lot of computer repair places use our software and they are consistently the most likely to *require* support whereas the plumbers and electrians and every other non computer related service company have comparitively few problems. But the real kicker is that some of the worst people to install and use software and follow even basic instructions are those that put those little letters after their name. It's become a red flag of sorts for our support department that we're going to have trouble. I too have a *very* dim view of certifications having been on both sides of the fence, I have all sorts of certifications but I know how to read a lot of info and pass a test fairly easily, I wrote most of my Novell CNE certification test in less than 10 minutes and they are supposed to take an hour or more. But the info I memorized had really little to do with the more important practical knowledge I gained on the job. I'd much rather hire a person with experience and no certifications or a person with interest and no experience or certifications than I would ever consider hiring a person with lot's of certifications and no experience.

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              Someone I knew in tech support took a great call. 6 MCSEs were trying to figure out this 8602 error on post and they just couldn't figure it out. So he told them to swap the keyboard and the mouse. Problem solved. ;)


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              • R RC_Sebastien_C

                "I think it's just bad taste pointing someone like that" for little gramatical mistakes on an international forum :rolleyes: Seriously, I thought the "be" was simply missed when Maximilien typed, but I'm curious about that last line:

                Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                The article will be put in the purgatory

                Is removing the "the" a question of style or grammar? That sounded good to me (who speaks English as a second language).

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                HollyHooo wrote:

                Is removing the "the" a question of style or grammar? That sounded good to me (who speaks English as a second language).

                I'd say grammar. Here are some examples: * I put the ball in the box * My grandad went to heaven * The dictator went to hell * I live in Scotland * I live in the city. If you look at these examples you can see they fall in to two distinct groups. When you insert an article (either definite or indefinite) between the preposition and noun you will notice that the noun is one example of many (an instance of a class in development terms). The other group, where the article is not present, you will notice that the noun is something unique (a singleton). There is only ever one instance of that class.


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                  "I think it's just bad taste pointing someone like that" for little gramatical mistakes on an international forum :rolleyes: Seriously, I thought the "be" was simply missed when Maximilien typed, but I'm curious about that last line:

                  Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                  The article will be put in the purgatory

                  Is removing the "the" a question of style or grammar? That sounded good to me (who speaks English as a second language).

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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  HollyHooo wrote:

                  "I think it's just bad taste pointing someone like that" for little gramatical mistakes on an international forum

                  Sorry, I didn't mean to embarrass anyone. I don't normally point out minor gramatical errors, it is just that I realised that one possible correction could make the sentence sound really absurd to a non-native English speaker.


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                  • C Colin Angus Mackay

                    Maximilien wrote:

                    The article will put in the purgatory

                    I was about to correct a little gramatical mistake you had in there, but then I realised one of the possible corrections would sound totally absurd. The article will get put in the purgatory "get" generally being used as the opposite of "put" it makes it sound very odd. e.g. "I get the apples off the shelf." Now reverse the action. "I put the apples on the shelf." Back to the original statement. You can also say: The article will be put in the purgatory


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                    Maximilien
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                    Thanks! ;)


                    Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      HollyHooo wrote:

                      "I think it's just bad taste pointing someone like that" for little gramatical mistakes on an international forum

                      Sorry, I didn't mean to embarrass anyone. I don't normally point out minor gramatical errors, it is just that I realised that one possible correction could make the sentence sound really absurd to a non-native English speaker.


                      Upcoming events: * Glasgow Geek Dinner (5th March) * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                      Appologies if you feel sorry, it was really just too easy to make a (lame) joke based on Maximilien's original post.

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                      • C Colin Angus Mackay

                        HollyHooo wrote:

                        Is removing the "the" a question of style or grammar? That sounded good to me (who speaks English as a second language).

                        I'd say grammar. Here are some examples: * I put the ball in the box * My grandad went to heaven * The dictator went to hell * I live in Scotland * I live in the city. If you look at these examples you can see they fall in to two distinct groups. When you insert an article (either definite or indefinite) between the preposition and noun you will notice that the noun is one example of many (an instance of a class in development terms). The other group, where the article is not present, you will notice that the noun is something unique (a singleton). There is only ever one instance of that class.


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                        RC_Sebastien_C
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                        Thank you for explaining. I now know for sure that the rule is the same in French. It's me who interpreted CP's Purgatory as a place because of my catholic background. Looking at the "a temporary condition of torment or suffering" definition, and all makes sense! Thanks!

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                        • M Maximilien

                          Thanks! ;)


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                          RC_Sebastien_C
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                          Mais un 5 pour le principe :)

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                          • C Colin Angus Mackay

                            Maximilien wrote:

                            The article will put in the purgatory

                            I was about to correct a little gramatical mistake you had in there, but then I realised one of the possible corrections would sound totally absurd. The article will get put in the purgatory "get" generally being used as the opposite of "put" it makes it sound very odd. e.g. "I get the apples off the shelf." Now reverse the action. "I put the apples on the shelf." Back to the original statement. You can also say: The article will be put in the purgatory


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                            Vikram A Punathambekar
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                            Why did you remove the 'the'? The Lounge, the Soapbox... the Purgatory?

                            Cheers, Vikram.


                            "...we are disempowered to cultivate in their communities an inclination to assimilate to our culture." - Stan Shannon.

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                              In the last months I was less "rigorous" about the quality of the articles, because I'm writing my articles... but this[^] is a live "Daily WTF[^]" :wtf::omg: Snippet: Dim DeleteColZero As Boolean = True Dim DeleteColOne As Boolean = True Dim DeleteColTwo As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColThree As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColFour As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColFive As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColSix As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColSeven As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColEight As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColNine As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColTen As Boolean = False :wtf::omg:


                              :sigh: Still searching for a good resource to LEARN English grammar ... :~
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                              Obviously the variables should have been strings to make the code easier to understand! Dim DeleteColZero As String = "Yes" :-D

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                                In the last months I was less "rigorous" about the quality of the articles, because I'm writing my articles... but this[^] is a live "Daily WTF[^]" :wtf::omg: Snippet: Dim DeleteColZero As Boolean = True Dim DeleteColOne As Boolean = True Dim DeleteColTwo As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColThree As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColFour As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColFive As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColSix As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColSeven As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColEight As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColNine As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColTen As Boolean = False :wtf::omg:


                                :sigh: Still searching for a good resource to LEARN English grammar ... :~
                                For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                dim DesignSense As Bolean = False


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                                  Obviously the variables should have been strings to make the code easier to understand! Dim DeleteColZero As String = "Yes" :-D

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                                  CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.

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                                  function ReturnYes(){ return true; } function ReturnNo(){ return false; } function ReturnPerhaps(){ return rand(); } Dim DeleteColZero As returnYes


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                                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                    Why did you remove the 'the'? The Lounge, the Soapbox... the Purgatory?

                                    Cheers, Vikram.


                                    "...we are disempowered to cultivate in their communities an inclination to assimilate to our culture." - Stan Shannon.

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                                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                    Why did you remove the 'the'? The Lounge, the Soapbox... the Purgatory?

                                    That was explained here[^] In short. When the noun is a singleton the "the" is dropped. When it one instance of a class of many it needs an article ("a", "an", "one" or "the")


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                                    • C Clickok

                                      In the last months I was less "rigorous" about the quality of the articles, because I'm writing my articles... but this[^] is a live "Daily WTF[^]" :wtf::omg: Snippet: Dim DeleteColZero As Boolean = True Dim DeleteColOne As Boolean = True Dim DeleteColTwo As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColThree As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColFour As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColFive As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColSix As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColSeven As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColEight As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColNine As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColTen As Boolean = False :wtf::omg:


                                      :sigh: Still searching for a good resource to LEARN English grammar ... :~
                                      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                      ednrgc
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                                      I see code like this whenever I go through outsourced code. My current company doesn't outsource, but I had several WTF moments in past assignments. I can't help but wonder if they are getting paid by line of code, and not the total functionality of the deliverable.

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                                      • C Clickok

                                        In the last months I was less "rigorous" about the quality of the articles, because I'm writing my articles... but this[^] is a live "Daily WTF[^]" :wtf::omg: Snippet: Dim DeleteColZero As Boolean = True Dim DeleteColOne As Boolean = True Dim DeleteColTwo As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColThree As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColFour As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColFive As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColSix As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColSeven As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColEight As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColNine As Boolean = False Dim DeleteColTen As Boolean = False :wtf::omg:


                                        :sigh: Still searching for a good resource to LEARN English grammar ... :~
                                        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                        BTW: Was your WTF because it's in VB? :laugh:

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                                        • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                          Why did you remove the 'the'? The Lounge, the Soapbox... the Purgatory?

                                          That was explained here[^] In short. When the noun is a singleton the "the" is dropped. When it one instance of a class of many it needs an article ("a", "an", "one" or "the")


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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                          I still tend to disagree. (Not with your rule, but with dropping the 'the' before Purgatory.) We only have one Lounge, one SB and one Purgatory. Given that the Lounge and the SB are also singletons, are you saying the correct version is "Don't post programming questions in Lounge"? Also, the rule has many exceptions: Don't look at the Sun directly. He spent three years in the Crimea. The Gambia is surrounded by Senegal.

                                          Cheers, Vikram.


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