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  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

    Click here.[^] Stan, what do you think of this? Do you think the republicans, or an individual high in that group, asked the Australian PM to use that argument?


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    Rob Graham
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    I don't know what Stan thinks, but I doubt that any republicans would be so stupid as to ask anyone from another country to comment on a US election (particularly after the fun had by John Kerry over this). Regardless of the commenter's point of view, such a comment would be taken poorly by most of the US electorate. In Obama's case, it helps him rather than hurts, since Howard's comments are taken as unwelcome interference.

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    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

      Click here.[^] Stan, what do you think of this? Do you think the republicans, or an individual high in that group, asked the Australian PM to use that argument?


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      His comments will embolden the chads[^]

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      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

        Click here.[^] Stan, what do you think of this? Do you think the republicans, or an individual high in that group, asked the Australian PM to use that argument?


        There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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        oilFactotum
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        Obama responds well: "Mr. Obama brushed off the political attack, saying he finds it "flattering" to be criticized by such a prominent Bush supporter. "If he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest that he call up another 20,000 Australians and send them to Iraq," he said during a campaign stop in Ames, Iowa. "Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric."

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        • 7 73Zeppelin

          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

          Stan, what do you think of this?

          He'll probably claim it's a communist plot to get the communists elected. We're surrounded by communists, you know? Why, there's even communists on this message board! :suss:


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          And probably some under his bed:) (supposed to be under the Teacup's post)

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            I don't know what Stan thinks, but I doubt that any republicans would be so stupid as to ask anyone from another country to comment on a US election (particularly after the fun had by John Kerry over this). Regardless of the commenter's point of view, such a comment would be taken poorly by most of the US electorate. In Obama's case, it helps him rather than hurts, since Howard's comments are taken as unwelcome interference.

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            Surely there is some protocol (written or not) that forbids a foreign politician commenting on the internal political posturing during electioneering campaigns. As such, IMO, the Australian Prime Minister should be told to keep his nose out of USA internal politics.

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              Surely there is some protocol (written or not) that forbids a foreign politician commenting on the internal political posturing during electioneering campaigns. As such, IMO, the Australian Prime Minister should be told to keep his nose out of USA internal politics.

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              That's what I thought too, which is why I thought it was under-handed.


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              • O oilFactotum

                Obama responds well: "Mr. Obama brushed off the political attack, saying he finds it "flattering" to be criticized by such a prominent Bush supporter. "If he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest that he call up another 20,000 Australians and send them to Iraq," he said during a campaign stop in Ames, Iowa. "Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric."

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                The Australian Prime Minister should look after his own campaign as I recall, the Australians go to the polls later this year.

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                • L Lost User

                  Surely there is some protocol (written or not) that forbids a foreign politician commenting on the internal political posturing during electioneering campaigns. As such, IMO, the Australian Prime Minister should be told to keep his nose out of USA internal politics.

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                  Dan Neely
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                  No, just the law of unintended consequences, ie it's more likely to backfire than help. The only exception being where Country B is is a puppet of Country A, in which bad things can happen if A's choice is ignored.

                  -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                    The Australian Prime Minister should look after his own campaign as I recall, the Australians go to the polls later this year.

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                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                    The Australian Prime Minister should look after his own campaign

                    Maybe that is what he is doing. His real aim may be for domestic Australian consumption.

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      Click here.[^] Stan, what do you think of this? Do you think the republicans, or an individual high in that group, asked the Australian PM to use that argument?


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                      Lost User
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                      As sensible as I expected.

                      The tigress is here :-D

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                      • M Mike Gaskey

                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                        what do you think of this?

                        good to hear a politician with an honest assessment.

                        Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                        Mike Gaskey wrote:

                        good to hear a politician with an honest assessment.

                        guess it isn't so good, eh?

                        Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                        • M Mike Gaskey

                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                          what do you think of this?

                          good to hear a politician with an honest assessment.

                          Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                          ""It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreements in the lives and heart of someone else's civil war...If he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest that he call up another 20,000 Australians and send them to Iraq. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric." Yes it is. Marc

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                          • M Mike Gaskey

                            Mike Gaskey wrote:

                            good to hear a politician with an honest assessment.

                            guess it isn't so good, eh?

                            Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                            oilFactotum
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                            It may be an honest assessment, but it is wrong. Perhaps it is because some, like myself, thing that it's not that you like hearing an honest assesment so much as hearing an assessment that you agree with( and for that reason declare it to be honest).

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              ""It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreements in the lives and heart of someone else's civil war...If he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest that he call up another 20,000 Australians and send them to Iraq. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric." Yes it is. Marc

                              Thyme In The Country

                              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                              Mike Gaskey
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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              It's time to admit that no.......

                              Obama and the majority of Democrats are out and out fools. Regardless of what opinion you may have on why we are where we are, the fact of the matter is that we've pulled a scab off of Iraq and it is the height of irresponsibility to believe we should walk away.

                              Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                Click here.[^] Stan, what do you think of this? Do you think the republicans, or an individual high in that group, asked the Australian PM to use that argument?


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                                Stan Shannon
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                                All I know is that if this country puts someone named Ofuckingbama in the oval office, I'm moving to Australia.

                                Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                • O oilFactotum

                                  It may be an honest assessment, but it is wrong. Perhaps it is because some, like myself, thing that it's not that you like hearing an honest assesment so much as hearing an assessment that you agree with( and for that reason declare it to be honest).

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                                  oilFactotum wrote:

                                  but it is wrong

                                  you don't think that an enemy, Al Q., doesn't salivate at the idea of cowardly democrats holding the presidency?

                                  Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                                  • M Mike Gaskey

                                    oilFactotum wrote:

                                    but it is wrong

                                    you don't think that an enemy, Al Q., doesn't salivate at the idea of cowardly democrats holding the presidency?

                                    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                                    oilFactotum
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                                    Quite frankly, I don't think they care who is president. But if they did, they would probably prefer an incompetent like Bush who has done more to send recruits to the terrorists than they could have ever hoped for. And by the way, recognizing the reality of Bush's failed war is not cowardly. The cowardice is pretending that we are winning a lost war.

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                                    • S Stan Shannon

                                      All I know is that if this country puts someone named Ofuckingbama in the oval office, I'm moving to Australia.

                                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                      It saves thinking.

                                      The tigress is here :-D

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                                      • O oilFactotum

                                        Quite frankly, I don't think they care who is president. But if they did, they would probably prefer an incompetent like Bush who has done more to send recruits to the terrorists than they could have ever hoped for. And by the way, recognizing the reality of Bush's failed war is not cowardly. The cowardice is pretending that we are winning a lost war.

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                                        Mike Gaskey
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                                        oilFactotum wrote:

                                        And by the way, recognizing the reality of Bush's failed war is not cowardly.

                                        oh sure, so all the Democrats who voted to authorize the war were completely taken in by Bush. Horse shit. The cowards, starting with Kerry and running through Clinton, were all on board until the going got tough. Then, like the turncoat cowards they are, all of a sudden Bush became the evil bad guy. let me repeat, what a load of horse shit.

                                        Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                                        • S Stan Shannon

                                          All I know is that if this country puts someone named Ofuckingbama in the oval office, I'm moving to Australia.

                                          Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                          Rob Manderson
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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          I'm moving to Australia

                                          Can't think of a better reason to vote for him!

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