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  • M Mel Padden

    SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003. It makes me wish that we lost our MS Partner status just so we had to switch to something like Java or ROR. The fact that this craptacular dog's dinner of a system costs more than anything else out there just adds grist to my mill. I thought the point of an IDE was to make life easier? I'll write my own one, that's what I'll do. You see if I don't. Just as soon as I finish getting this latest project to work on a network share with third party controls and I've figgered out how in blazes I'm gonna deploy the thing without losing my hair... :mad: :mad:

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    Ryan Roberts
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    • M Mel Padden

      SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003. It makes me wish that we lost our MS Partner status just so we had to switch to something like Java or ROR. The fact that this craptacular dog's dinner of a system costs more than anything else out there just adds grist to my mill. I thought the point of an IDE was to make life easier? I'll write my own one, that's what I'll do. You see if I don't. Just as soon as I finish getting this latest project to work on a network share with third party controls and I've figgered out how in blazes I'm gonna deploy the thing without losing my hair... :mad: :mad:

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      melchizidech wrote:

      Is anyone else....

      Not me: been using it on and off for quite some time, both on XP and, now, Vista and it seesm fine. Bit slow, perhaps but been better since service pack 1. But then I like Vista and have not had any problems.

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        You know the saying "Bad Workman blames his..." :sigh:

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        Mel Padden
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        i just think it's too diffuse. Not saying I'm a master programmer by any means, but I see myself, writing Web apps with this clunkware, as trying to peel an orange with a chainsaw. It's toooooo damn big, and what it's best for, as I discovered earlier this year, is developing proper desktop apps, particularly in C#, where it makes so many things very easy and gets rid of a lot of d'oh time with intellisense and that. But try developing the ASP.net model, and that same thing threatens to slow your PC down to the point where you'd be better off with an abacus!!! Would it be soooo difficlut to implement a simple keystroke listener that disabled Intellisense and syntax checking until you paused typing for, like a second? Simple and easy fix, not reinventing the wheel, just the kind of normal usability tweak that most of us do everyday, otherwise we'd lose our jobs cos nobody'd buy the damn app. What makes MS so different they can get away with it? Sometimes VS just decides to sit there and look at me while It, in its eternal wisdom, decides that a particular piece of ASP code is, in fact, invalid/valid, and colours my screen with those pretty word-style squiggles, or that it does, in fact know what control I'm referencing when it's in the same assembly, same folder even and I just built it. I have, seriously, no messing, gone for a cup of tea and made myself a ham sandwich waiting for this kind of thing. And what about the service pack that took a half-day to install? the list of things that take galactic amounts of time adds up. Like i said, if i could convince my MD to take a dive away from MS I'd be over the moon. And about three time richer and more productive. The app is a pig. THE APP IS A PIG.

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        • M Mel Padden

          SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003. It makes me wish that we lost our MS Partner status just so we had to switch to something like Java or ROR. The fact that this craptacular dog's dinner of a system costs more than anything else out there just adds grist to my mill. I thought the point of an IDE was to make life easier? I'll write my own one, that's what I'll do. You see if I don't. Just as soon as I finish getting this latest project to work on a network share with third party controls and I've figgered out how in blazes I'm gonna deploy the thing without losing my hair... :mad: :mad:

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          Tim Carmichael
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          Uh, no. If what I have is better than what I can write myself, I will continue to use it. Tim

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          • M Mel Padden

            SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003. It makes me wish that we lost our MS Partner status just so we had to switch to something like Java or ROR. The fact that this craptacular dog's dinner of a system costs more than anything else out there just adds grist to my mill. I thought the point of an IDE was to make life easier? I'll write my own one, that's what I'll do. You see if I don't. Just as soon as I finish getting this latest project to work on a network share with third party controls and I've figgered out how in blazes I'm gonna deploy the thing without losing my hair... :mad: :mad:

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            Aaron VanWieren
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            Instead of starting from scratch you could always try SharpDevelop[^]. It is actually a very interesting idea and I have used it occasionally. It is totally open source and they even offer a free book on the inner workings of the IDE development. Aaron

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            • A Aaron VanWieren

              Instead of starting from scratch you could always try SharpDevelop[^]. It is actually a very interesting idea and I have used it occasionally. It is totally open source and they even offer a free book on the inner workings of the IDE development. Aaron

              _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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              Mel Padden
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              I'll give this a shot. It seems much lighter. The thing is, I can only use it for my nixers, as in my day-to-day, I'm tied to the company model, which is VS-only. no room for manoeuvre there... But cheers for the steer, bigears...

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              • M Mel Padden

                i just think it's too diffuse. Not saying I'm a master programmer by any means, but I see myself, writing Web apps with this clunkware, as trying to peel an orange with a chainsaw. It's toooooo damn big, and what it's best for, as I discovered earlier this year, is developing proper desktop apps, particularly in C#, where it makes so many things very easy and gets rid of a lot of d'oh time with intellisense and that. But try developing the ASP.net model, and that same thing threatens to slow your PC down to the point where you'd be better off with an abacus!!! Would it be soooo difficlut to implement a simple keystroke listener that disabled Intellisense and syntax checking until you paused typing for, like a second? Simple and easy fix, not reinventing the wheel, just the kind of normal usability tweak that most of us do everyday, otherwise we'd lose our jobs cos nobody'd buy the damn app. What makes MS so different they can get away with it? Sometimes VS just decides to sit there and look at me while It, in its eternal wisdom, decides that a particular piece of ASP code is, in fact, invalid/valid, and colours my screen with those pretty word-style squiggles, or that it does, in fact know what control I'm referencing when it's in the same assembly, same folder even and I just built it. I have, seriously, no messing, gone for a cup of tea and made myself a ham sandwich waiting for this kind of thing. And what about the service pack that took a half-day to install? the list of things that take galactic amounts of time adds up. Like i said, if i could convince my MD to take a dive away from MS I'd be over the moon. And about three time richer and more productive. The app is a pig. THE APP IS A PIG.

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                lost in transition
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                Have you checked out Web Matrix: http://asp.net/webmatrix/[^]

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                • M Mel Padden

                  SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003. It makes me wish that we lost our MS Partner status just so we had to switch to something like Java or ROR. The fact that this craptacular dog's dinner of a system costs more than anything else out there just adds grist to my mill. I thought the point of an IDE was to make life easier? I'll write my own one, that's what I'll do. You see if I don't. Just as soon as I finish getting this latest project to work on a network share with third party controls and I've figgered out how in blazes I'm gonna deploy the thing without losing my hair... :mad: :mad:

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                  melchizidech wrote:

                  SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003.

                  Have you got SP1 installed? It made a big difference to my performance problems.

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                  • M Mel Padden

                    SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003. It makes me wish that we lost our MS Partner status just so we had to switch to something like Java or ROR. The fact that this craptacular dog's dinner of a system costs more than anything else out there just adds grist to my mill. I thought the point of an IDE was to make life easier? I'll write my own one, that's what I'll do. You see if I don't. Just as soon as I finish getting this latest project to work on a network share with third party controls and I've figgered out how in blazes I'm gonna deploy the thing without losing my hair... :mad: :mad:

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                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                    melchizidech wrote:

                    Is anyone else.... SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003.

                    No way! I'm currently working on a cross framework project and I have both open at once and VS2003 frustrates me so much because it doesn't have such helpful features as VS2005.


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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      melchizidech wrote:

                      Is anyone else.... SICK of Visual Studio 2005? It is hyper-super-diddly-crappity slow, chews up my memory, buggy as all-git-out and just plain awkward compared to VS2003.

                      No way! I'm currently working on a cross framework project and I have both open at once and VS2003 frustrates me so much because it doesn't have such helpful features as VS2005.


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                      NormDroid
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                      And just wait for VS2007 or even VS2008 which ever comes first, bring it on Microsoft I'mma waiting... :rolleyes:

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                        not yet. But then again, I have a machine with a ton of ram. Maybe that's keeping it fast.

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                        David Wulff
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                        I expect it is, RAM makes a signficiant different to VS2005's performance.


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