Between Angels and Insects
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Wow, I quit posting in the lounge because the general content of the messages had severly degraded into discussions that were obviously started to bolster message counts, but my message announcing that fact was only a couple of lines long, and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. Dave, you gotta lighten up. If you provide anti-American opinions in a forum dominated (in large numbers) by Americans, you can expect a certain amount of backlash. Some of the people that post don't recognize humor in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? Since you had never mentioned anything specific, I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. What's truly funny is the Americans (as a rule) don't find nearly so much to dislike about the British. From our side of the pond, the brits appear just as patronizing and arrogant as we do to you. False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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There are only two members of this online community whom I would not even care to give the time of day to. I don't - and won't - ever tell anybody else who they are, because they are opinions I have formed based on how they have shown themselves to me and others, and it is not my place to do so. However, I can honestly say you were never one of them - your 'problem' was in the way you argued your points across during the whole Lindows fiasco and the subsequent debris. You were, it seems now not deliberately, portraying yourself as one of the people that would fall into that category I describe - and although it is also not my place to say this, I was not alone in that conclusion. Now I quite enjoy talking with you; you make sense (most of the time :p) and you seem to have picked up a good sense of humour along the way. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
David Wulff wrote: There are only two members of this online community whom I would not even care to give the time of day to (This should be an easy test) Hey, Dave, what time is it? ;) "There's a slew of slip 'twixt cup and lip"
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David Wulff wrote: There are only two members of this online community whom I would not even care to give the time of day to (This should be an easy test) Hey, Dave, what time is it? ;) "There's a slew of slip 'twixt cup and lip"
Sorry - I don't have my watch on. :rolleyes: ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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Wow, I quit posting in the lounge because the general content of the messages had severly degraded into discussions that were obviously started to bolster message counts, but my message announcing that fact was only a couple of lines long, and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. Dave, you gotta lighten up. If you provide anti-American opinions in a forum dominated (in large numbers) by Americans, you can expect a certain amount of backlash. Some of the people that post don't recognize humor in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? Since you had never mentioned anything specific, I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. What's truly funny is the Americans (as a rule) don't find nearly so much to dislike about the British. From our side of the pond, the brits appear just as patronizing and arrogant as we do to you. False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. I have. I keep making off-key remarks and jokes about you but you're never there to read them. :(( John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? As a country, nothing specific, but as people I like the same things as I do in any person I meet - including myself. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. Let's try a similar question - what do you like about your mother in law? See - it's not easy is it! :-D John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. I've never denied that, and in some cases it is blatently obvious, but the difference is that Brits just don't blow these things out of proportion. Like you said (though I've had to correct a few spelling mistakes you made), some of the people that post don't recognise humour in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. Talking of which, I received a strongly worded e-mail after I started that "what words do you yanks misspell" thread a few months back. It seems one of our fellow CPians took that as a personal assualt on his family. Go figure. :| ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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Sorry - I don't have my watch on. :rolleyes: ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. I have. I keep making off-key remarks and jokes about you but you're never there to read them. :(( John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? As a country, nothing specific, but as people I like the same things as I do in any person I meet - including myself. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. Let's try a similar question - what do you like about your mother in law? See - it's not easy is it! :-D John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. I've never denied that, and in some cases it is blatently obvious, but the difference is that Brits just don't blow these things out of proportion. Like you said (though I've had to correct a few spelling mistakes you made), some of the people that post don't recognise humour in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. Talking of which, I received a strongly worded e-mail after I started that "what words do you yanks misspell" thread a few months back. It seems one of our fellow CPians took that as a personal assualt on his family. Go figure. :| ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
David Wulff wrote: fellow CPians took that as a personal assualt on his family "assault"... LOL David Wulff wrote: I keep making off-key remarks and jokes about you but you're never there to read them. I can't keep up any more. The noise level in the Lounge has finally exceeded my desire to read the messages. I fear that my outlaw-style messages may have been the catalyst for individuals less deft at literary jousting and delivery of rapier-sharp insults and jibes. David Wulff wrote: what do you like about your mother in law? My current mother-in-law isn't bad at all, but my ex mother-in-law; let's just say that the best thing I can say about her is that she lives over 1500 miles away, and unless the wind is juuuuust right, I can't hear her harpy-like shrill, and her corpulent shadow no longer darkens my doorway. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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David Wulff wrote: fellow CPians took that as a personal assualt on his family "assault"... LOL David Wulff wrote: I keep making off-key remarks and jokes about you but you're never there to read them. I can't keep up any more. The noise level in the Lounge has finally exceeded my desire to read the messages. I fear that my outlaw-style messages may have been the catalyst for individuals less deft at literary jousting and delivery of rapier-sharp insults and jibes. David Wulff wrote: what do you like about your mother in law? My current mother-in-law isn't bad at all, but my ex mother-in-law; let's just say that the best thing I can say about her is that she lives over 1500 miles away, and unless the wind is juuuuust right, I can't hear her harpy-like shrill, and her corpulent shadow no longer darkens my doorway. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: LOL Smarmy yank git. :p Okay , okay, I put my foot in it then - what can I say, my brain works quicker than my fingers. ;P John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I can't keep up any more. Fair enough, I certaily don't blame you. It's probably best you don't find out that I called you a female, Welsh, goat felater with a fake Austrailian accent, and that I have a shrine to you in my bedroom... ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: LOL Smarmy yank git. :p Okay , okay, I put my foot in it then - what can I say, my brain works quicker than my fingers. ;P John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I can't keep up any more. Fair enough, I certaily don't blame you. It's probably best you don't find out that I called you a female, Welsh, goat felater with a fake Austrailian accent, and that I have a shrine to you in my bedroom... ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
For the shrine, I hope you didn't cheap out and snag one of those half-assed imitation John idols that are common in Chinese gift shops. Even a poorly done artist's rendition of my god-like countenance is better than a smallish chinese statuette. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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For the shrine, I hope you didn't cheap out and snag one of those half-assed imitation John idols that are common in Chinese gift shops. Even a poorly done artist's rendition of my god-like countenance is better than a smallish chinese statuette. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
It was surprisingly easy to find a realistic statue of you - I just went to my local country music store... :-D ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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It was surprisingly easy to find a realistic statue of you - I just went to my local country music store... :-D ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
ROTFL !!!!! Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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Christian Graus wrote: Yes, your late entry into WWII meant that you were the main country to leave the war profited by it, and the fact that you killed a few million Japanese women and children to *end* the war meant that everyone was either glad to be your friend, or scared of you. I would submit that we became the dominant world player after WWI and maybe even after the Spanish-American War. Which is worse, millions of the bad guys dead or millions of the good guys? And don't tell me the Japanese military was anything but bad. Just ask the millions of raped, pillaged and dead in their wake across the entire pacific rim. I don't believe in moral relativism. There is good and there is evil. For the most part, the USA has been on the side of good. Christian Graus wrote: while remaining semmingly ignorant of your countries many failures. I understand your apprehension and contempt for the power we wield. Unfortunately, when you're a Gulliver among Lilliputians you're bound to step on a few of the little people. One day, probably sooner rather than later, the USA will lose some of its power and another country will have to step up to the plate and take a swing at it. Hopefully, it won't be a nation like communist China. Christian Graus wrote: Like it or not, I'm right. Of course you are - you're American Good one. :-O Like it or not, I'm right.
Jason Henderson wrote: I would submit that we became the dominant world player after WWI and maybe even after the Spanish-American War. Quite possibly - WWI left Europe pretty much raped. It was the opressive terms placed on Germany after WWI that planted the seeds the Nazis fed on. Jason Henderson wrote: Which is worse, millions of the bad guys dead or millions of the good guys? You've seen too many westerns. Jason Henderson wrote: And don't tell me the Japanese military was anything but bad. Just ask the millions of raped, pillaged and dead in their wake across the entire pacific rim. So ALL Japanese were responsible for this, including the women and children you killed ? Are they then inhenerntly evil as a race ? Should we ban them from CP ? You see where I am going. Jason Henderson wrote: I don't believe in moral relativism. There is good and there is evil. For the most part, the USA has been on the side of good. Almost entirely you have tried to be. My point was exactly this: in so much as you've tried to do good, often it's been in ignorance and fear, and bad has been done. Again Vietnam. The Communism witch hunts in Hollywood in the 50's. The support for Saddam Hussein. Those sort of things show what happens when one country thinks it can run the world. Jason Henderson wrote: I understand your apprehension and contempt for the power we wield. I fel neither of these things, I could care less on a personal level. I just want you to recognise that it's not always been wielded well. Jason Henderson wrote: Unfortunately, when you're a Gulliver among Lilliputians you're bound to step on a few of the little people. That's a pretty glib way of saying 'when you're a superpower and you wield that power solely in your own interest, you're going to end up crushing some innocent people for your own ends'. Jason Henderson wrote: One day, probably sooner rather than later, the USA will lose some of its power and another country will have to step up to the plate and take a swing at it. Hopefully, it won't be a nation like communist China. To be honest, I doubt it would be that much different - a communist nation is probably just less likely to invest time and money in lying to it's citizens about it's activities. Jason Henderson wrote: Li
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Jason Henderson wrote: I would submit that we became the dominant world player after WWI and maybe even after the Spanish-American War. Quite possibly - WWI left Europe pretty much raped. It was the opressive terms placed on Germany after WWI that planted the seeds the Nazis fed on. Jason Henderson wrote: Which is worse, millions of the bad guys dead or millions of the good guys? You've seen too many westerns. Jason Henderson wrote: And don't tell me the Japanese military was anything but bad. Just ask the millions of raped, pillaged and dead in their wake across the entire pacific rim. So ALL Japanese were responsible for this, including the women and children you killed ? Are they then inhenerntly evil as a race ? Should we ban them from CP ? You see where I am going. Jason Henderson wrote: I don't believe in moral relativism. There is good and there is evil. For the most part, the USA has been on the side of good. Almost entirely you have tried to be. My point was exactly this: in so much as you've tried to do good, often it's been in ignorance and fear, and bad has been done. Again Vietnam. The Communism witch hunts in Hollywood in the 50's. The support for Saddam Hussein. Those sort of things show what happens when one country thinks it can run the world. Jason Henderson wrote: I understand your apprehension and contempt for the power we wield. I fel neither of these things, I could care less on a personal level. I just want you to recognise that it's not always been wielded well. Jason Henderson wrote: Unfortunately, when you're a Gulliver among Lilliputians you're bound to step on a few of the little people. That's a pretty glib way of saying 'when you're a superpower and you wield that power solely in your own interest, you're going to end up crushing some innocent people for your own ends'. Jason Henderson wrote: One day, probably sooner rather than later, the USA will lose some of its power and another country will have to step up to the plate and take a swing at it. Hopefully, it won't be a nation like communist China. To be honest, I doubt it would be that much different - a communist nation is probably just less likely to invest time and money in lying to it's citizens about it's activities. Jason Henderson wrote: Li
Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying I hate the US, that would make me as racist as your comments on the Japanese. Is the US a race? The predominant race of the US is the same as the predominant race of Australia. So if an Australian says her/she hates the US it doesn't make him/her a racist and vice versa. It does make him/her biased though.:)
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Christian Graus wrote: I'm not saying I hate the US, that would make me as racist as your comments on the Japanese. Is the US a race? The predominant race of the US is the same as the predominant race of Australia. So if an Australian says her/she hates the US it doesn't make him/her a racist and vice versa. It does make him/her biased though.:)
Anonymous wrote: Is the US a race? The predominant race of the US is the same as the predominant race of Australia. I think we did this last time, and settled on the word 'bigot'. By this same logic, someone who hates all Japanese people is also not racist - they do not hate all Asians, so they do not hate based purely on race. But it's purely semantic - we all know what I meant.... :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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Wow, I quit posting in the lounge because the general content of the messages had severly degraded into discussions that were obviously started to bolster message counts, but my message announcing that fact was only a couple of lines long, and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. Dave, you gotta lighten up. If you provide anti-American opinions in a forum dominated (in large numbers) by Americans, you can expect a certain amount of backlash. Some of the people that post don't recognize humor in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? Since you had never mentioned anything specific, I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. What's truly funny is the Americans (as a rule) don't find nearly so much to dislike about the British. From our side of the pond, the brits appear just as patronizing and arrogant as we do to you. False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
Some of us, John, have actually missed you a great deal. :(( Though I will admit that the quantity of flames from people who didn't understand the post they are flaming has dropped far less than I would have expected. ;P
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
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Some of us, John, have actually missed you a great deal. :(( Though I will admit that the quantity of flames from people who didn't understand the post they are flaming has dropped far less than I would have expected. ;P
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)Hey Jason, I just took a look at Cito's eb site and went to the Sherwood Chiropractic site, and was amazed to find there was no "Back" button. :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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Hey Jason, I just took a look at Cito's eb site and went to the Sherwood Chiropractic site, and was amazed to find there was no "Back" button. :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
Oh dear Buddha, I am SloooOOoooow today, it actually took me just long enough to get that one that I had a moment of stark web developer terror. :laugh: Damn Texans, if it weren't for the friendly women and the fact that they'd kick our asses I would say we should just invade the friggin place and be done with it. ;P Ah, the shakes are calming down. Outlaw Programmer withdrawls subsiding finally... :cool:
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)
