Red wine before sleep
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I used to drink red wine in order to sleep, with great success. If I had trouble sleeping, a single glass of dry red before bed took care of that problem very quickly. More I cannot tell you.
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please read my other post. BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic. what cardiologists advise is one or 2 small glasses per day, during a meal preferably.
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toxcct wrote:
BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic.
Well, yes. People like that drink before bed in order to forget their problems, but half their problems ARE because of drinking (poor judgment, bad temper, hangover headaches). It would make more sense for them to seek help, but alcoholism makes for a very troubled mind, so they are caught in an infinite loop if no one makes it a point to help them. Roswell
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toxcct wrote:
BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic.
Well, yes. People like that drink before bed in order to forget their problems, but half their problems ARE because of drinking (poor judgment, bad temper, hangover headaches). It would make more sense for them to seek help, but alcoholism makes for a very troubled mind, so they are caught in an infinite loop if no one makes it a point to help them. Roswell
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I drink a bottle every evening. It is damn good for you, full of good stuff like flavinoids, tannins, trace ellements etc.
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Anyone here drinks red wine before going to sleep (Not everyday of course)? If so, why? Reason asking this is that I heard it is good to the body in some way although i have no facts or anything to justify it. :~
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When i was in france i used to have a small glass of red-wine every day (not before going to sleep) to beat the cold.
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please read my other post. BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic. what cardiologists advise is one or 2 small glasses per day, during a meal preferably.
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toxcct wrote:
BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep".
It has the same wonderful effect as drinking it at any other time, but avoids the sleepy pill for those who need and gives better rest for those on the fringe.
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I drink a bottle every evening. It is damn good for you, full of good stuff like flavinoids, tannins, trace ellements etc.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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Beer, except in great quantities, has never helped me sleep. Beer is always a pick-me-up for me. Hops are supposed to be a relaxant, but I seriously doubt the quantity of hops used in beer is enough.
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please read my other post. BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic. what cardiologists advise is one or 2 small glasses per day, during a meal preferably.
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I've never heard a bigger load of crap! Nobody said they couldn't sleep without alcohol, and that would be the only indication of alcoholism apparent anywhere in this thread.
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Anyone here drinks red wine before going to sleep (Not everyday of course)? If so, why? Reason asking this is that I heard it is good to the body in some way although i have no facts or anything to justify it. :~
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i try not to drink within an hour and a half of going to bed. otherwise, i'll feel hungover. YMMV
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toxcct wrote:
BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic.
Well, yes. People like that drink before bed in order to forget their problems, but half their problems ARE because of drinking (poor judgment, bad temper, hangover headaches). It would make more sense for them to seek help, but alcoholism makes for a very troubled mind, so they are caught in an infinite loop if no one makes it a point to help them. Roswell
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People like that drink before bed in order to forget their problems
i dispute your ability to diagnose psychiatric problems without ever consulting with the patient.
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toxcct wrote:
BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic.
Well, yes. People like that drink before bed in order to forget their problems, but half their problems ARE because of drinking (poor judgment, bad temper, hangover headaches). It would make more sense for them to seek help, but alcoholism makes for a very troubled mind, so they are caught in an infinite loop if no one makes it a point to help them. Roswell
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I've never heard a bigger load of crap! Nobody said they couldn't sleep without alcohol, and that would be the only indication of alcoholism apparent anywhere in this thread.
Brady Kelly wrote:
I've never heard a bigger load of crap
read The Osmosian Order.
Brady Kelly wrote:
Nobody said they couldn't sleep without alcohol
me neither, please understand a post before replying with all of your anger
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I used to drink red wine in order to sleep, with great success. If I had trouble sleeping, a single glass of dry red before bed took care of that problem very quickly. More I cannot tell you.
Brady Kelly wrote:
I used to drink red wine in order to sleep, with great success.
I used to drink two-three pints of burbon whiskey or black-label whiskey (higher proof) to go to sleep, it worked even better. But I wouldn't recommend that, I still woke up to the same problems that were keeping me awake.
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Brady Kelly wrote:
I've never heard a bigger load of crap
read The Osmosian Order.
Brady Kelly wrote:
Nobody said they couldn't sleep without alcohol
me neither, please understand a post before replying with all of your anger
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toxcct wrote:
Brady Kelly wrote: I've never heard a bigger load of crap read The Osmosian Order.
OK, besides that.
toxcct wrote:
Brady Kelly wrote: Nobody said they couldn't sleep without alcohol me neither, please understand a post before replying with all of your anger
My anger, although maybe a little sharp[1], is, I think, justified. You state that is someone is drinking before sleep, we can call him an alcoholic. "BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic." I am now calmer, yet still not happy that you make this assertion regarding someone's addiction to a substance based on, nothing, really. [1] I have a cold and am somewhat grumpy. If my "all of my anger" was a little much, I apologise.
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toxcct wrote:
Brady Kelly wrote: I've never heard a bigger load of crap read The Osmosian Order.
OK, besides that.
toxcct wrote:
Brady Kelly wrote: Nobody said they couldn't sleep without alcohol me neither, please understand a post before replying with all of your anger
My anger, although maybe a little sharp[1], is, I think, justified. You state that is someone is drinking before sleep, we can call him an alcoholic. "BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic." I am now calmer, yet still not happy that you make this assertion regarding someone's addiction to a substance based on, nothing, really. [1] I have a cold and am somewhat grumpy. If my "all of my anger" was a little much, I apologise.
and here is my point of view. drinking anything at anytime, especially when you're alone can be seriously considered as illness. Understand me well, I don't spit on alcoholic. most of them drink because they can't do anything else at the moment. I'm not a doctor, nor pretend to know how to fix them. now honnestly, do you drink before going to bed ? i mean, you feel good (not drinking to fix any sorethroat or what), not getting out of a diner with friends. you're simply alone, you didn't drink of the evening. Will you have a whole red wine glass just before entering your bed ? and to finish, how do you call addiction to drinking alcohol ? alcoholism, right ?
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and here is my point of view. drinking anything at anytime, especially when you're alone can be seriously considered as illness. Understand me well, I don't spit on alcoholic. most of them drink because they can't do anything else at the moment. I'm not a doctor, nor pretend to know how to fix them. now honnestly, do you drink before going to bed ? i mean, you feel good (not drinking to fix any sorethroat or what), not getting out of a diner with friends. you're simply alone, you didn't drink of the evening. Will you have a whole red wine glass just before entering your bed ? and to finish, how do you call addiction to drinking alcohol ? alcoholism, right ?
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I don't drink anything at the moment, as I have alcoholic tendencies[1]. I do, however, recognise the difference between addiction and use. If I drink cough medicine to help me with a cough, that doesn't mean I am addicted to cough medicine. Likewise, if I occasionally use alcohol to sleep, it doesn't mean I am addicted to alcohol. If I regularly can't sleep without alcohol, and have the glass of red wine every night, yes, then I am addicted to alcohol. [1] I can easily do without alcohol, I just battle controlling it when I do use it.
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I don't drink anything at the moment, as I have alcoholic tendencies[1]. I do, however, recognise the difference between addiction and use. If I drink cough medicine to help me with a cough, that doesn't mean I am addicted to cough medicine. Likewise, if I occasionally use alcohol to sleep, it doesn't mean I am addicted to alcohol. If I regularly can't sleep without alcohol, and have the glass of red wine every night, yes, then I am addicted to alcohol. [1] I can easily do without alcohol, I just battle controlling it when I do use it.
Brady Kelly wrote:
Likewise, if I occasionally use alcohol to sleep, it doesn't mean I am addicted to alcohol
it's on the way, though
Brady Kelly wrote:
I have alcoholic tendencies
sorry for you, but my 1st post had nothing personal against you. you took it for you
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Brady Kelly wrote:
Likewise, if I occasionally use alcohol to sleep, it doesn't mean I am addicted to alcohol
it's on the way, though
Brady Kelly wrote:
I have alcoholic tendencies
sorry for you, but my 1st post had nothing personal against you. you took it for you
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toxcct wrote:
t's on the way, though
Yes, it is. The danger is not trying to sleep naturally next time, but just using wine again.
toxcct wrote:
you took it for you
I didn't take it personally, I just got irritated by your quick classification of someone as an alcoholic, when there are so much more factors that actually decide. I know several people that never drink alone, and neither before bed, yet are definite alcoholics compared to others that might occasionally drink alone or take a drink to sleep. I hope there are no hard feelings anywhere. I don't have any.
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toxcct wrote:
BTW, i never heard of "drinking before going to sleep". If this is true, then we can call the guy an alcoholic.
Well, yes. People like that drink before bed in order to forget their problems, but half their problems ARE because of drinking (poor judgment, bad temper, hangover headaches). It would make more sense for them to seek help, but alcoholism makes for a very troubled mind, so they are caught in an infinite loop if no one makes it a point to help them. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CARoswellNX wrote:
Well, yes. People like that drink before bed in order to forget their problems
I agree with Chris, it is difficult to lump all alcoholics in the same category. I did drink to forget. I had a wife who was cybering with every tom-...-and harry on the computer. She was desperate to find anyone who was not me, and I knew it. I do refer to myself as an alcoholic, though I never experienced a hang-over, and gave it up cold-turkey in only three months with no DTs. Alcoholism is an addiction. Trouble of one type or another may lead them to drinking, but it is the physical&mental addiction that makes for an alcoholic. Given that definition, I would not have been considered an alcoholic, though I still hold the mental thought, so I still fit the bill. I can remember in near photographic detail the taste and feeling (and differences between brands) of the whiskeys I drank. Different metabolisms process alcohol differently allowing different levels before addiction. One could, theoretically, with a low-tolerance become an alcoholic from one drink a night. The alcoholic is determined by the fact that you need it, or have the overwhelming desire to have it, but has nothing to do with the quantity or the reasons for drinking. I was asked at the last conference when the subject came up because I wouldn't drink (or let someone buy me a drink). A gentleman from Australia I believe, or at least that region, asked why I couldn't just have "one drink" now that all my problems from then have been solved. It makes sense, I drank because of problems, I never experienced a physical addiction (or at least the withdrawal from one), so I should be able to just grab a drink, drink once and be done, right? I can't describe the mental thought of drinking, just how strong that is. I fight it, and obviously win, I've not touched a drop for over 15 years. I even never drank while my 2nd wife was making fun of me for not drinking when I came to pick her up when she was drinking with the guys from work (they all poked their fun, so it wasn't just her, it just hurt worse because it was her). It makes me uncomfortable to get drinks for others, but I do because I am a nice guy. At the Christmas party one of the ladies asked me to get her a drink while she was going to check on her son. Jack and coke, 2/3 jack, one coke, I can still remember the scent of that drink better than I can the rose bushes all over town. THAT is alcoholism, the problem is gone, but I can never