Secular progressive moral agenda...
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Stan Shannon wrote:
So? You get to define for people about which emotions are appropriate?
If you want to keep the moral high ground, then hatred is never appropriate.
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
If you want to keep the moral high ground
He has no idea what that is.
"Christianity is not about tolerance"
Stan Shannon in the Soap BoxChristianity is about getting into heavan, and nothing else.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxThats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxAnd you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxBeing classy is for losers.
Stan Shannon in the Soapboxa coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
Stan Shannon in the Soapboxled mike
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Don't you realize that it is evil to hate, and verbalize that hate unless: you hate: global climate change nuance deniers George Bush Tony Blair Those damned evil anti-illegal immigrant Minutemen Conservatives homophobes Republicans Christians Taxes (because taxes are good for everyone) Howard oops - I believe it is okay to hate Thatcher too. oops - honesty is not good either. -- modified at 10:42 Friday 16th February, 2007 -- modified at 10:44 Friday 16th February, 2007
Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
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Don't you realize that it is evil to hate, and verbalize that hate unless: you hate: global climate change nuance deniers George Bush Tony Blair Those damned evil anti-illegal immigrant Minutemen Conservatives homophobes Republicans Christians Taxes (because taxes are good for everyone) Howard oops - I believe it is okay to hate Thatcher too. oops - honesty is not good either. -- modified at 10:42 Friday 16th February, 2007 -- modified at 10:44 Friday 16th February, 2007
Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Of course, as sanctioned by our moral overlords.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Stan Shannon wrote:
So? You get to define for people about which emotions are appropriate?
If you want to keep the moral high ground, then hatred is never appropriate.
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
If you want to keep the moral high ground
My point precisely.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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I don't suppose you want to back that up with facts... never mind... I have no interest in being engulfed in more right wing nut hysteria lacking even a nuance of logic that is based in reality.
led mike
led mike wrote:
nuance of logic
tell you what sport, I'll match logic ability and IQ with you anytime you find yourself in the Indianapolis area. I simply love fucking with midgets.
Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
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led mike wrote:
nuance of logic
tell you what sport, I'll match logic ability and IQ with you anytime you find yourself in the Indianapolis area. I simply love fucking with midgets.
Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Just because you have the capacity does not mean you apply it to political subject matter. Once emotion takes over, it doesn't matter what your IQ is. The post I replied to gave no indication of your superior IQ and logic skills. It is just another example of right wing nut hysteria based on emotion rather than facts and logic. Your reply to me, or "challenge", did nothing to address it. Therefore it is a hollow challenge at best. You have the opportunity "right now" to utilize your self proclaimed superiority. Now what will you do with the opportunity?
led mike
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Of course, as sanctioned by our moral overlords.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
Of course, as sanctioned by our moral overlords.
What "overlords". Morality exists, period. It does not change just because someone says so. According to your Christian beliefs, when your day comes you will discover the truth of your own morality. What anyone here and now claims to know will not effect the reckoning that you will face at that time. Here's what I can tell you about "your version" of Christianity. If you and people like you are going to be in heaven just because you claim to "believe" in Jesus, that all of your hate mongering and blood thirst will be forgiven because you claim to "believe" in Jesus, that your family pride based superior, compassionless, intolerant version of morality is forgiven, then heaven is the last place I want to be.
"Christianity is not about tolerance"
Stan Shannon in the Soap BoxChristianity is about getting into heavan, and nothing else.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxThats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxAnd you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxBeing classy is for losers.
Stan Shannon in the Soapboxa coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
Stan Shannon in the Soapboxled mike
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Just because you have the capacity does not mean you apply it to political subject matter. Once emotion takes over, it doesn't matter what your IQ is. The post I replied to gave no indication of your superior IQ and logic skills. It is just another example of right wing nut hysteria based on emotion rather than facts and logic. Your reply to me, or "challenge", did nothing to address it. Therefore it is a hollow challenge at best. You have the opportunity "right now" to utilize your self proclaimed superiority. Now what will you do with the opportunity?
led mike
Sorry led, you replied to a factual statement and now you're adopting a passive-aggressive stance. It simply isn't worth the effort to continue.
Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Of course, as sanctioned by our moral overlords.
What "overlords". Morality exists, period. It does not change just because someone says so. According to your Christian beliefs, when your day comes you will discover the truth of your own morality. What anyone here and now claims to know will not effect the reckoning that you will face at that time. Here's what I can tell you about "your version" of Christianity. If you and people like you are going to be in heaven just because you claim to "believe" in Jesus, that all of your hate mongering and blood thirst will be forgiven because you claim to "believe" in Jesus, that your family pride based superior, compassionless, intolerant version of morality is forgiven, then heaven is the last place I want to be.
"Christianity is not about tolerance"
Stan Shannon in the Soap BoxChristianity is about getting into heavan, and nothing else.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxThats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxAnd you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
Stan Shannon in the SoapboxBeing classy is for losers.
Stan Shannon in the Soapboxa coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
Stan Shannon in the Soapboxled mike
led mike wrote:
What "overlords".
The overloads that compelled a 7 foot 300 lb millionaire to drop to his knees to beg for forgiveness.
led mike wrote:
Here's what I can tell you about "your version" of Christianity.
Have I ever even claimed to be a christian? If memory serves, the most I have ever claimed personnaly is that I try to live my life according to christian discipline. I mean, hell,I even 'believe in' evolution.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Sorry led, you replied to a factual statement and now you're adopting a passive-aggressive stance. It simply isn't worth the effort to continue.
Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
you replied to a factual statement
so you claim, but you offer no evidence. Where are the statements from people who claim "hate" is not a virtue, stating hatered of those "groups" you listed? Where?
Mike Gaskey wrote:
It simply isn't worth the effort to continue.
That often seems to be the case.
led mike
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led mike wrote:
What "overlords".
The overloads that compelled a 7 foot 300 lb millionaire to drop to his knees to beg for forgiveness.
led mike wrote:
Here's what I can tell you about "your version" of Christianity.
Have I ever even claimed to be a christian? If memory serves, the most I have ever claimed personnaly is that I try to live my life according to christian discipline. I mean, hell,I even 'believe in' evolution.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
The overloads that compelled a 7 foot 300 lb millionaire to drop to his knees to beg for forgiveness.
If you are referring to Tim Hardaway he is neither 7 foot nor 300 pounds. He is, or at least was, a great basketball player none the less. What is interesting in your statement however is that you imply, I think, that because of someone's size or financial status that somehow "proves" their sense of morality is correct. I don't believe I can find the words to accurately describe how warped that is.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Have I ever even claimed to be a christian?
I see. So all those statements you made of "what" Christianity is were not based on your own personal experience of Christianity. Interesting, but you should not find it surprising that someone would take your statements to mean you are a practicing Christian.
led mike
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Stan Shannon wrote:
The guy is banished
Banished by whom? By the representative of a corporation. Damn those secular progressive corporations forcing their moral agenda on their own employees! Next thing you know, they'll be allowing women, blacks, rednecks, and gays equal opportunities to work for them! How leftist of them! OMG, and look at this: the guy later apologized for his statements: "I want to apologize for my comments yesterday regarding gays," Hardaway's statement said. "My comments were offensive and I regret making them. I'm sorry to anyone I have offended." That leftist brainwashing machine sure acts quickly. :rolleyes:
Al Beback wrote:
Next thing you know, they'll be allowing women, blacks, rednecks, and gays equal opportunities to work for them! How leftist of them!
Redneck is not a class, race, income range, or social status: it is a state of mind :)
"I hope he can see this, because I'm doing it as hard as I can" - Ignignot
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People often ask about what is meant by having a 'secular progressive moral agenda' forced upon our society. Here [^] is a perfect example of what it means. The guy is banished for expressing opinions outside the main stream of modern, secular, moral views. There is absolutely no difference between this kind of social ostricism and what we would have if our society had, in fact, been taken over by a religious orthodoxy of some kind and gay people were banned for their views. It is exactly the same kind of social phenomenon and proof that humanity can never really escape religious-like behavior regardless of how far we push actual religion out of our lives. It is always there.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Should not private entities (like corporations, of which the NBA is one) be able to decide who they do or do not employ based on damn near an curricula they like?
"I hope he can see this, because I'm doing it as hard as I can" - Ignignot
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People often ask about what is meant by having a 'secular progressive moral agenda' forced upon our society. Here [^] is a perfect example of what it means. The guy is banished for expressing opinions outside the main stream of modern, secular, moral views. There is absolutely no difference between this kind of social ostricism and what we would have if our society had, in fact, been taken over by a religious orthodoxy of some kind and gay people were banned for their views. It is exactly the same kind of social phenomenon and proof that humanity can never really escape religious-like behavior regardless of how far we push actual religion out of our lives. It is always there.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Homosexuality is extremely offensive and repulsive to a very large number of people in the world. He has the right to express his own personal views on the subject without being punished. I think it is going a bit too far to punish gays for being gay but there is only so much you can tolerate. That guy has the right to express his views just as a gay person has the right to express his views. I knew a gay guy at work. I went outside for a cigarette and he was out there smoking too. I didn't know he was gay at the time, I barely knew him. He showed me a CD he had just bought and it seemed like a girly CD. He then sung a song from it and I realized there was something different about him. He then told me that his personal life is none of people's business and he keeps everything secrete. He then told me that he lives a controversial life? I then asked "Controversial?" He told me he was gay and he was adement that he was going to hell, he kept saying he was going to hell. I was feeling very uncomfortable at this time and I told him he wast going to hell and asked why he told me he was gay right after telling me he doesn't tell people anything about him. :laugh: He said I seemed like a laid back guy and could trust me with the information. I never had any problems with him because he knew that I wasn't gay and kept his conversations normal. However when I was in high school there was a gay guy who really flaunted it and wore dresses sometimes and was really upfront about his gayness. That is when they really push there luck because it strikes nerves and can cause great offense to many people. That kind of shit can really make my blood boil, because it is completely uncalled for.
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led mike wrote:
What "overlords".
The overloads that compelled a 7 foot 300 lb millionaire to drop to his knees to beg for forgiveness.
led mike wrote:
Here's what I can tell you about "your version" of Christianity.
Have I ever even claimed to be a christian? If memory serves, the most I have ever claimed personnaly is that I try to live my life according to christian discipline. I mean, hell,I even 'believe in' evolution.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
millionaire
Since he's already rich, why didn't he stick to his principles and tell them to stuff it? And it's not like they fired him, they just pulled him out of their spotlight. He just showed his greed over shadows his principles.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance idiots like CSS.
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led mike wrote:
nuance of logic
tell you what sport, I'll match logic ability and IQ with you anytime you find yourself in the Indianapolis area. I simply love fucking with midgets.
Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
By f****ing did you mean fucking?
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People often ask about what is meant by having a 'secular progressive moral agenda' forced upon our society. Here [^] is a perfect example of what it means. The guy is banished for expressing opinions outside the main stream of modern, secular, moral views. There is absolutely no difference between this kind of social ostricism and what we would have if our society had, in fact, been taken over by a religious orthodoxy of some kind and gay people were banned for their views. It is exactly the same kind of social phenomenon and proof that humanity can never really escape religious-like behavior regardless of how far we push actual religion out of our lives. It is always there.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
That fits... a bigot defending a bigot...
Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]
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Homosexuality is extremely offensive and repulsive to a very large number of people in the world. He has the right to express his own personal views on the subject without being punished. I think it is going a bit too far to punish gays for being gay but there is only so much you can tolerate. That guy has the right to express his views just as a gay person has the right to express his views. I knew a gay guy at work. I went outside for a cigarette and he was out there smoking too. I didn't know he was gay at the time, I barely knew him. He showed me a CD he had just bought and it seemed like a girly CD. He then sung a song from it and I realized there was something different about him. He then told me that his personal life is none of people's business and he keeps everything secrete. He then told me that he lives a controversial life? I then asked "Controversial?" He told me he was gay and he was adement that he was going to hell, he kept saying he was going to hell. I was feeling very uncomfortable at this time and I told him he wast going to hell and asked why he told me he was gay right after telling me he doesn't tell people anything about him. :laugh: He said I seemed like a laid back guy and could trust me with the information. I never had any problems with him because he knew that I wasn't gay and kept his conversations normal. However when I was in high school there was a gay guy who really flaunted it and wore dresses sometimes and was really upfront about his gayness. That is when they really push there luck because it strikes nerves and can cause great offense to many people. That kind of shit can really make my blood boil, because it is completely uncalled for.
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Would you like to take a breath, then try writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs? That whole "and one time, at band camp" style gets very hard to follow after the tenth change of subject.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
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Would you like to take a breath, then try writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs? That whole "and one time, at band camp" style gets very hard to follow after the tenth change of subject.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
Would you like to take a breath, then try writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs? That whole "and one time, at band camp" style gets very hard to follow after the tenth change of subject.
No it isn't I was just comparing a reasonable gay person with a intolerable one and expressing my thoughts on why that guy had the right to say he doesn't like gays.
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David Wulff wrote:
Would you like to take a breath, then try writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs? That whole "and one time, at band camp" style gets very hard to follow after the tenth change of subject.
No it isn't I was just comparing a reasonable gay person with a intolerable one and expressing my thoughts on why that guy had the right to say he doesn't like gays.
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Over time this world has witnessed horrendous and obnoxious words and writings. Some words and writings can often lead to unpredictability, uncertainty, civil tensions and wars. Such words and writings from the likes oh Hitler, Abu Usamah, and many more should be discouraged perhaps even outlawed. And words and writings that attacks a person because of their (1) sexuality, (2) religion, (3) politics, (4) wealth and so on must also be subjected to same restrictions.