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  • M Mike Gaskey

    Sorry led, you replied to a factual statement and now you're adopting a passive-aggressive stance. It simply isn't worth the effort to continue.

    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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    led mike
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    Mike Gaskey wrote:

    you replied to a factual statement

    so you claim, but you offer no evidence. Where are the statements from people who claim "hate" is not a virtue, stating hatered of those "groups" you listed? Where?

    Mike Gaskey wrote:

    It simply isn't worth the effort to continue.

    That often seems to be the case.

    led mike

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    • S Stan Shannon

      led mike wrote:

      What "overlords".

      The overloads that compelled a 7 foot 300 lb millionaire to drop to his knees to beg for forgiveness.

      led mike wrote:

      Here's what I can tell you about "your version" of Christianity.

      Have I ever even claimed to be a christian? If memory serves, the most I have ever claimed personnaly is that I try to live my life according to christian discipline. I mean, hell,I even 'believe in' evolution.

      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      The overloads that compelled a 7 foot 300 lb millionaire to drop to his knees to beg for forgiveness.

      If you are referring to Tim Hardaway he is neither 7 foot nor 300 pounds. He is, or at least was, a great basketball player none the less. What is interesting in your statement however is that you imply, I think, that because of someone's size or financial status that somehow "proves" their sense of morality is correct. I don't believe I can find the words to accurately describe how warped that is.

      Stan Shannon wrote:

      Have I ever even claimed to be a christian?

      I see. So all those statements you made of "what" Christianity is were not based on your own personal experience of Christianity. Interesting, but you should not find it surprising that someone would take your statements to mean you are a practicing Christian.

      led mike

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      • A Al Beback

        Stan Shannon wrote:

        The guy is banished

        Banished by whom? By the representative of a corporation. Damn those secular progressive corporations forcing their moral agenda on their own employees! Next thing you know, they'll be allowing women, blacks, rednecks, and gays equal opportunities to work for them! How leftist of them! OMG, and look at this: the guy later apologized for his statements: "I want to apologize for my comments yesterday regarding gays," Hardaway's statement said. "My comments were offensive and I regret making them. I'm sorry to anyone I have offended." That leftist brainwashing machine sure acts quickly. :rolleyes:

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        Al Beback wrote:

        Next thing you know, they'll be allowing women, blacks, rednecks, and gays equal opportunities to work for them! How leftist of them!

        Redneck is not a class, race, income range, or social status: it is a state of mind :)

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        • S Stan Shannon

          People often ask about what is meant by having a 'secular progressive moral agenda' forced upon our society. Here [^] is a perfect example of what it means. The guy is banished for expressing opinions outside the main stream of modern, secular, moral views. There is absolutely no difference between this kind of social ostricism and what we would have if our society had, in fact, been taken over by a religious orthodoxy of some kind and gay people were banned for their views. It is exactly the same kind of social phenomenon and proof that humanity can never really escape religious-like behavior regardless of how far we push actual religion out of our lives. It is always there.

          Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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          Russell Morris
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          Should not private entities (like corporations, of which the NBA is one) be able to decide who they do or do not employ based on damn near an curricula they like?

          "I hope he can see this, because I'm doing it as hard as I can" - Ignignot

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          • S Stan Shannon

            People often ask about what is meant by having a 'secular progressive moral agenda' forced upon our society. Here [^] is a perfect example of what it means. The guy is banished for expressing opinions outside the main stream of modern, secular, moral views. There is absolutely no difference between this kind of social ostricism and what we would have if our society had, in fact, been taken over by a religious orthodoxy of some kind and gay people were banned for their views. It is exactly the same kind of social phenomenon and proof that humanity can never really escape religious-like behavior regardless of how far we push actual religion out of our lives. It is always there.

            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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            Homosexuality is extremely offensive and repulsive to a very large number of people in the world. He has the right to express his own personal views on the subject without being punished. I think it is going a bit too far to punish gays for being gay but there is only so much you can tolerate. That guy has the right to express his views just as a gay person has the right to express his views. I knew a gay guy at work. I went outside for a cigarette and he was out there smoking too. I didn't know he was gay at the time, I barely knew him. He showed me a CD he had just bought and it seemed like a girly CD. He then sung a song from it and I realized there was something different about him. He then told me that his personal life is none of people's business and he keeps everything secrete. He then told me that he lives a controversial life? I then asked "Controversial?" He told me he was gay and he was adement that he was going to hell, he kept saying he was going to hell. I was feeling very uncomfortable at this time and I told him he wast going to hell and asked why he told me he was gay right after telling me he doesn't tell people anything about him. :laugh: He said I seemed like a laid back guy and could trust me with the information. I never had any problems with him because he knew that I wasn't gay and kept his conversations normal. However when I was in high school there was a gay guy who really flaunted it and wore dresses sometimes and was really upfront about his gayness. That is when they really push there luck because it strikes nerves and can cause great offense to many people. That kind of shit can really make my blood boil, because it is completely uncalled for.

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            • S Stan Shannon

              led mike wrote:

              What "overlords".

              The overloads that compelled a 7 foot 300 lb millionaire to drop to his knees to beg for forgiveness.

              led mike wrote:

              Here's what I can tell you about "your version" of Christianity.

              Have I ever even claimed to be a christian? If memory serves, the most I have ever claimed personnaly is that I try to live my life according to christian discipline. I mean, hell,I even 'believe in' evolution.

              Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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              Stan Shannon wrote:

              millionaire

              Since he's already rich, why didn't he stick to his principles and tell them to stuff it? And it's not like they fired him, they just pulled him out of their spotlight. He just showed his greed over shadows his principles.

              The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance idiots like CSS.

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              • M Mike Gaskey

                led mike wrote:

                nuance of logic

                tell you what sport, I'll match logic ability and IQ with you anytime you find yourself in the Indianapolis area. I simply love fucking with midgets.

                Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                By f****ing did you mean fucking?

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  People often ask about what is meant by having a 'secular progressive moral agenda' forced upon our society. Here [^] is a perfect example of what it means. The guy is banished for expressing opinions outside the main stream of modern, secular, moral views. There is absolutely no difference between this kind of social ostricism and what we would have if our society had, in fact, been taken over by a religious orthodoxy of some kind and gay people were banned for their views. It is exactly the same kind of social phenomenon and proof that humanity can never really escape religious-like behavior regardless of how far we push actual religion out of our lives. It is always there.

                  Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                  Rob Manderson
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                  That fits... a bigot defending a bigot...

                  Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                    Homosexuality is extremely offensive and repulsive to a very large number of people in the world. He has the right to express his own personal views on the subject without being punished. I think it is going a bit too far to punish gays for being gay but there is only so much you can tolerate. That guy has the right to express his views just as a gay person has the right to express his views. I knew a gay guy at work. I went outside for a cigarette and he was out there smoking too. I didn't know he was gay at the time, I barely knew him. He showed me a CD he had just bought and it seemed like a girly CD. He then sung a song from it and I realized there was something different about him. He then told me that his personal life is none of people's business and he keeps everything secrete. He then told me that he lives a controversial life? I then asked "Controversial?" He told me he was gay and he was adement that he was going to hell, he kept saying he was going to hell. I was feeling very uncomfortable at this time and I told him he wast going to hell and asked why he told me he was gay right after telling me he doesn't tell people anything about him. :laugh: He said I seemed like a laid back guy and could trust me with the information. I never had any problems with him because he knew that I wasn't gay and kept his conversations normal. However when I was in high school there was a gay guy who really flaunted it and wore dresses sometimes and was really upfront about his gayness. That is when they really push there luck because it strikes nerves and can cause great offense to many people. That kind of shit can really make my blood boil, because it is completely uncalled for.

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                    Would you like to take a breath, then try writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs? That whole "and one time, at band camp" style gets very hard to follow after the tenth change of subject.


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                      Would you like to take a breath, then try writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs? That whole "and one time, at band camp" style gets very hard to follow after the tenth change of subject.


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                      David Wulff wrote:

                      Would you like to take a breath, then try writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs? That whole "and one time, at band camp" style gets very hard to follow after the tenth change of subject.

                      No it isn't I was just comparing a reasonable gay person with a intolerable one and expressing my thoughts on why that guy had the right to say he doesn't like gays.

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                        David Wulff wrote:

                        Would you like to take a breath, then try writing in coherent sentences and paragraphs? That whole "and one time, at band camp" style gets very hard to follow after the tenth change of subject.

                        No it isn't I was just comparing a reasonable gay person with a intolerable one and expressing my thoughts on why that guy had the right to say he doesn't like gays.

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                        Over time this world has witnessed horrendous and obnoxious words and writings. Some words and writings can often lead to unpredictability, uncertainty, civil tensions and wars. Such words and writings from the likes oh Hitler, Abu Usamah, and many more should be discouraged perhaps even outlawed. And words and writings that attacks a person because of their (1) sexuality, (2) religion, (3) politics, (4) wealth and so on must also be subjected to same restrictions.

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                          Over time this world has witnessed horrendous and obnoxious words and writings. Some words and writings can often lead to unpredictability, uncertainty, civil tensions and wars. Such words and writings from the likes oh Hitler, Abu Usamah, and many more should be discouraged perhaps even outlawed. And words and writings that attacks a person because of their (1) sexuality, (2) religion, (3) politics, (4) wealth and so on must also be subjected to same restrictions.

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                          Shog9 0
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                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                          Some words and writings can often lead to unpredictability, uncertainty, civil tensions and wars.

                          And worse yet, some can cause nasty headaches through lack of punctuation and proper phrasing... ;P

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                          • S Stan Shannon

                            People often ask about what is meant by having a 'secular progressive moral agenda' forced upon our society. Here [^] is a perfect example of what it means. The guy is banished for expressing opinions outside the main stream of modern, secular, moral views. There is absolutely no difference between this kind of social ostricism and what we would have if our society had, in fact, been taken over by a religious orthodoxy of some kind and gay people were banned for their views. It is exactly the same kind of social phenomenon and proof that humanity can never really escape religious-like behavior regardless of how far we push actual religion out of our lives. It is always there.

                            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                            Stan Shannon wrote:

                            The guy is banished for expressing opinions outside the main stream of modern, secular, moral views. There is absolutely no difference between this kind of social ostricism and what we would have if our society had, in fact, been taken over by a religious orthodoxy of some kind and gay people were banned for their views. It is exactly the same kind of social phenomenon and proof that humanity can never really escape religious-like behavior regardless of how far we push actual religion out of our lives. It is always there.

                            Codes of acceptable behaviour are always there, certainly. However, the degree of authoritarianism of those codes can vary greatly. I think that those who transgress on secular orthodoxy generally get off pretty lightly. Incidentally, did you notice the campaign against the two bloggers who worked for John Edwards but were eventually forced to resign because they had said some critical things about the Catholic church? Neither of them, as far as I know, ever said: "I hate Catholic people...I let it be known I don't like Catholic people and I don't like to be around Catholic people. I am Catholophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States sports." At least one of the bloggers voted for John Kerry, a Catholic, in the last Presidential election. Apparently, the threshold for "unacceptable hostility" toward Catholics is fairly low.

                            John Carson

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                              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                              Some words and writings can often lead to unpredictability, uncertainty, civil tensions and wars.

                              And worse yet, some can cause nasty headaches through lack of punctuation and proper phrasing... ;P

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                              Sorry, I'll try better next time

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                                Sorry, I'll try better next time

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                                Uh, no, not you.

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                                  Over time this world has witnessed horrendous and obnoxious words and writings. Some words and writings can often lead to unpredictability, uncertainty, civil tensions and wars. Such words and writings from the likes oh Hitler, Abu Usamah, and many more should be discouraged perhaps even outlawed. And words and writings that attacks a person because of their (1) sexuality, (2) religion, (3) politics, (4) wealth and so on must also be subjected to same restrictions.

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                                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                  Such words and writings from the likes oh Hitler, Abu Usamah, and many more should be discouraged perhaps even outlawed. And words and writings that attacks a person because of their (1) sexuality, (2) religion, (3) politics, (4) wealth and so on must also be subjected to same restrictions.

                                  I disagree fully. Your thoughts and words should not be censored. It is your most basic right as an intelligent being to be able to express your views with text, speech, hand gestures and pictures even if your views are unpopular. Its so important and something that I feel very strongly about. Everyone has the right to express his or her views, if we didn't then this soapbox wouldn't exist and no body would be complaining about Muslims and Christians or Hillery and Chavez.

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                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    Some words and writings can often lead to unpredictability, uncertainty, civil tensions and wars.

                                    And worse yet, some can cause nasty headaches through lack of punctuation and proper phrasing... ;P

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                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    And worse yet, some can cause nasty headaches through lack of punctuation and proper phrasing...

                                    Don't be so picky, it causes a bigger headache to try to correct endless spelling and grammar errors.

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                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      And worse yet, some can cause nasty headaches through lack of punctuation and proper phrasing...

                                      Don't be so picky, it causes a bigger headache to try to correct endless spelling and grammar errors.

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                                      Naw. Use Firefox 2.0's spellchecker, and get in the habit of hitting Enter after every thought. That ought to get you most of the way there.

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                                        Naw. Use Firefox 2.0's spellchecker, and get in the habit of hitting Enter after every thought. That ought to get you most of the way there.

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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        Use Firefox 2.0's spellchecker

                                        The Firefox spell checker isn't that good. Sometimes I end up doing trial and error on the spelling of the word just to get its spelling right. Its such a pain :| I have always been bad with reading and writing. When I read I end up getting way ahead of my self and start switching words and rephrasing things and I get all mixed up. When I write my thoughts change too quickly and I can't complete recording my thoughts or I will think of many different ways of saying something and mix them together into something scrambled.

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                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          Use Firefox 2.0's spellchecker

                                          The Firefox spell checker isn't that good. Sometimes I end up doing trial and error on the spelling of the word just to get its spelling right. Its such a pain :| I have always been bad with reading and writing. When I read I end up getting way ahead of my self and start switching words and rephrasing things and I get all mixed up. When I write my thoughts change too quickly and I can't complete recording my thoughts or I will think of many different ways of saying something and mix them together into something scrambled.

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                                          Captain See Sharp wrote:

                                          When I write my thoughts change too quickly and I can't complete recording my thoughts or I will think of many different ways of saying something and mix them together into something scrambled.

                                          That's why i usually find it easier to just hammer out a rough draft of what i'm trying to say, and then go back and rework it 'till it sorta makes sense. Or not. Truth is, i write a fair number of emails, posts, and replies that never get posted; once written, it's obvious they're less interesting than i'd previously hoped. And yeah, you can't rely on a spell-checker. I have dict mapped to an online dictionary site in Firefox, so i can quickly open a new tab and look up words when necessary.

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