Would you like to work in a rural community?
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
and the clothing stores suck and all this
What, there's no Mark's Work Warehouse? :)
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Stephan Hoppe wrote:
and the clothing stores suck and all this
What, there's no Mark's Work Warehouse? :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I agree with you that my argument is useless. [Red Stateler] Hey, I am part of a special bread, we are called smart people [Captain See Sharp] The zen of the soapbox is hard to attain...[Jörgen Sigvardsson] I wish I could remember what it was like to only have a short term memory.[David Kentley]
Not yet, but we are going to get one (and Staples) within the next 8 weeks ... no kidding!!!
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
I love it. Town of 35000 including surrounding area, but it is still a small town. UPS store receives packages for anything I can't find in town. The oldest zoo west of the Mississippi is in town. :) It is true that the clothing stores seem to stock a majority of early-modern-lumberjack... hmmmmm... still that is what the UPS store is for. :) Crime is "near" non-existent, we do have vandalism and some theft, and every now and then a really big crime always shocks everyone. But at least we aren't burned out of hearing it every week. yes "some" programmers would like the lifestyle. "some" prefer the big-city life too. You need shipping receiving services, which means they receive the package for you so you can keep working and pick it up at your leisure. This is important in any town you can't just go out and "get it" and bring it back. I commute to work, so I don't know how to handle an office center for independent contractor types.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
I too live in a rural community in Western Canada and there are 3 other software related people living in the same area, two are actually adjoining neighbors. One commutes for a week at a time into the city (Victoria) the other like me works from home. I would see no benefit to an office center, the number one problem that IT professionals face living and working in a small community is high speed internet access. There is nothing more important or less prevalent in rural areas for this to happen. We're on the very edge of getting cable internet service, any further away from a city or town and we wouldn't have any choice but two way sattelite which we looked into as we were looking at a house to purchase. Internet access was our number one item on the list followed by all the other things people look for in buying a place to live. Frankly I think it's a sad joke that no one in authority seems to get this simple fact. I can remember as far back as 1999 the government going on about a program to ensure high speed internet to every area of canada and they have failed miserably at it.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
One more week until I do the same thing :) Moving from a big city to work in a small village. I can only find advantages for me in doing that.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle...
I live out in the country, but wish I could afford to move out further. I love it.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
I'm living in a smallish city, 25k in the city itself, 150k including the greater metro area. I suspect, the latter includes two counties, possibly 4, but I haven't been able to find an actual map showing how the census bueurro actually breaks them out. At the moment I'm renting in a relatively dense residential area X| while saving to buy something well out in the boonies.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Provided i could get fast Internet access, i'd love it. What would it take to get me to move? Either a new job, or a change in the attitudes of my current employer to where i could work full-time at home (currently, it's either spend some time in the office, or go to part-time employment status). But yeah, the Internet thing is key.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
I grew up in a small town on the Olympic Peninsula in WA, not far from you. When I graduated high school, I took a job in Dallas, TX. Talk about culture shock. Many years later, here I am living in a mid-size town of less than a million people, thinking "this is way too small" and yearning for the days of living in big-D. I don't understand why people like living in small towns. I saw all these posts about "we *are* getting" or "we *will be* getting" this and that... personally, I'd rather live somewhere that already has it. To each their own. As far as crime... I had my car stereo stolen in WA, nothing ever stolen in 8 years in Dallas, and my Civic was stolen here in FL. So as far as crime goes, the bigger the city I've lived in, the less crime I've been subjected to.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would you like to work in a rural community?
No. I am not an outdoor type, and would probably be bored there. The smallest place I have ever lived in has the population of 160K people.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
I live in a rural area (unincorporated county; it's not even a town) forty miles east of Phoenix. It's great, even though the area is mostly retirees. The downside is that I have to commute thirty miles to the company's nearest office, or fifty-five miles to the main office. I'm not a good candidate for telecommuting; I'd never get any work done. But, yes, I think if there were such a communal office in the area I could work there.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
This whole idea sounds to me like moving to yet "another" company to be yet "another" face in the collared crowd. X| I wouldn't want to move because then I would have to drive somewhere to work. I hate driving. Commuting sucks. An office center? That's called an employer! I can get what I need from my stapler and scotch tape. If I need more there's kinkos online. My coffee has always been better at home. Financial advice is best received from people who provide to a lot of others and come with a multiple referrals. Medical plans? Yeah, I have one. I drive down the street to see the doctor if something goes wrong. Working in a building, having to drive to get to it and being back in the work-mob sounds like the worst choice with the other being colon surgery.:omg: Count me out.:badger:
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Add me to the list of developers not in the city (also West coast of Canada).
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center
Personally, I don't think so. I agree with the others on this thread that the main thing we need is high speed Internet. The Comox Valley is blessed with that, feeding into the rumour I heard that it's one of the sites of the US Echelon program. What would be good, I think, are some of the other services you mention. Having financial advice/accounting/etc. available would be great. Someone who is more aware of cross-border accounting, or service contracts as opposed to more standard accounting. Also, a place like that would solve another issue: finding like minded individuals when the workplace is in your own house.
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I grew up in a small town on the Olympic Peninsula in WA, not far from you. When I graduated high school, I took a job in Dallas, TX. Talk about culture shock. Many years later, here I am living in a mid-size town of less than a million people, thinking "this is way too small" and yearning for the days of living in big-D. I don't understand why people like living in small towns. I saw all these posts about "we *are* getting" or "we *will be* getting" this and that... personally, I'd rather live somewhere that already has it. To each their own. As far as crime... I had my car stereo stolen in WA, nothing ever stolen in 8 years in Dallas, and my Civic was stolen here in FL. So as far as crime goes, the bigger the city I've lived in, the less crime I've been subjected to.
themichaelv wrote:
I don't understand why people like living in small towns.
I could go on about the invigorating beauty of nature, the relative quiet, etc... ...but the truth is, i don't like people. I'm happier when there aren't very many around. I was mildly unhappy in a population of 50K, and have become easily twice as miserable since moving to a town of > 100K. When i have to spend serious time in actual large cities, i become quite depressed. As for services... i end up driving nearly as much now as when i lived in the country. Sure, there are services close by... but there are too many people, too many roads, too many fences and ditches and walls and railroads. I can't walk, i can't bike, i can't skate. If i leave my house, it's just cars, and people. Did i mention i dislike cars? I do. A lot.
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Add me to the list of developers not in the city (also West coast of Canada).
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center
Personally, I don't think so. I agree with the others on this thread that the main thing we need is high speed Internet. The Comox Valley is blessed with that, feeding into the rumour I heard that it's one of the sites of the US Echelon program. What would be good, I think, are some of the other services you mention. Having financial advice/accounting/etc. available would be great. Someone who is more aware of cross-border accounting, or service contracts as opposed to more standard accounting. Also, a place like that would solve another issue: finding like minded individuals when the workplace is in your own house.
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High speed Internet is available in our community and of course without that, it would be difficult to do our kind of work. I like the idea of the office center because I feel social isolated working at home. I used to work as an employee before I started my homebased business. Having a cup of coffee with an other person and discuss all kind of IT and none IT things is something I enjoyed and what I really miss. I also like the idea to "mental leave work" what isn't that easy when you work at home. If I had a chance to rent an office for $100 or $200 dollars a month in a building with other IT Pros, I would definitly rent one. -- modified at 14:56 Friday 16th February, 2007
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I grew up in a small town on the Olympic Peninsula in WA, not far from you. When I graduated high school, I took a job in Dallas, TX. Talk about culture shock. Many years later, here I am living in a mid-size town of less than a million people, thinking "this is way too small" and yearning for the days of living in big-D. I don't understand why people like living in small towns. I saw all these posts about "we *are* getting" or "we *will be* getting" this and that... personally, I'd rather live somewhere that already has it. To each their own. As far as crime... I had my car stereo stolen in WA, nothing ever stolen in 8 years in Dallas, and my Civic was stolen here in FL. So as far as crime goes, the bigger the city I've lived in, the less crime I've been subjected to.
themichaelv wrote:
I don't understand why people like living in small towns.
It's an age thing most likely. I grew up in a very small town as well, moved to and worked in a few different large cities and now feel like I've come full circle back to what I grew up with. When I was young in that small town I could not wait to get out of it, now that I'm older I've lived in both and made my choice. To me a city is something best visited, not lived in, but as you say to each their own.
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Stephan Hoppe wrote:
3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move?
Because it's Canada!!!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Add me to the list of developers not in the city (also West coast of Canada).
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center
Personally, I don't think so. I agree with the others on this thread that the main thing we need is high speed Internet. The Comox Valley is blessed with that, feeding into the rumour I heard that it's one of the sites of the US Echelon program. What would be good, I think, are some of the other services you mention. Having financial advice/accounting/etc. available would be great. Someone who is more aware of cross-border accounting, or service contracts as opposed to more standard accounting. Also, a place like that would solve another issue: finding like minded individuals when the workplace is in your own house.
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