Would you like to work in a rural community?
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Provided i could get fast Internet access, i'd love it. What would it take to get me to move? Either a new job, or a change in the attitudes of my current employer to where i could work full-time at home (currently, it's either spend some time in the office, or go to part-time employment status). But yeah, the Internet thing is key.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
I grew up in a small town on the Olympic Peninsula in WA, not far from you. When I graduated high school, I took a job in Dallas, TX. Talk about culture shock. Many years later, here I am living in a mid-size town of less than a million people, thinking "this is way too small" and yearning for the days of living in big-D. I don't understand why people like living in small towns. I saw all these posts about "we *are* getting" or "we *will be* getting" this and that... personally, I'd rather live somewhere that already has it. To each their own. As far as crime... I had my car stereo stolen in WA, nothing ever stolen in 8 years in Dallas, and my Civic was stolen here in FL. So as far as crime goes, the bigger the city I've lived in, the less crime I've been subjected to.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would you like to work in a rural community?
No. I am not an outdoor type, and would probably be bored there. The smallest place I have ever lived in has the population of 160K people.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
I live in a rural area (unincorporated county; it's not even a town) forty miles east of Phoenix. It's great, even though the area is mostly retirees. The downside is that I have to commute thirty miles to the company's nearest office, or fifty-five miles to the main office. I'm not a good candidate for telecommuting; I'd never get any work done. But, yes, I think if there were such a communal office in the area I could work there.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
This whole idea sounds to me like moving to yet "another" company to be yet "another" face in the collared crowd. X| I wouldn't want to move because then I would have to drive somewhere to work. I hate driving. Commuting sucks. An office center? That's called an employer! I can get what I need from my stapler and scotch tape. If I need more there's kinkos online. My coffee has always been better at home. Financial advice is best received from people who provide to a lot of others and come with a multiple referrals. Medical plans? Yeah, I have one. I drive down the street to see the doctor if something goes wrong. Working in a building, having to drive to get to it and being back in the work-mob sounds like the worst choice with the other being colon surgery.:omg: Count me out.:badger:
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Add me to the list of developers not in the city (also West coast of Canada).
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center
Personally, I don't think so. I agree with the others on this thread that the main thing we need is high speed Internet. The Comox Valley is blessed with that, feeding into the rumour I heard that it's one of the sites of the US Echelon program. What would be good, I think, are some of the other services you mention. Having financial advice/accounting/etc. available would be great. Someone who is more aware of cross-border accounting, or service contracts as opposed to more standard accounting. Also, a place like that would solve another issue: finding like minded individuals when the workplace is in your own house.
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I grew up in a small town on the Olympic Peninsula in WA, not far from you. When I graduated high school, I took a job in Dallas, TX. Talk about culture shock. Many years later, here I am living in a mid-size town of less than a million people, thinking "this is way too small" and yearning for the days of living in big-D. I don't understand why people like living in small towns. I saw all these posts about "we *are* getting" or "we *will be* getting" this and that... personally, I'd rather live somewhere that already has it. To each their own. As far as crime... I had my car stereo stolen in WA, nothing ever stolen in 8 years in Dallas, and my Civic was stolen here in FL. So as far as crime goes, the bigger the city I've lived in, the less crime I've been subjected to.
themichaelv wrote:
I don't understand why people like living in small towns.
I could go on about the invigorating beauty of nature, the relative quiet, etc... ...but the truth is, i don't like people. I'm happier when there aren't very many around. I was mildly unhappy in a population of 50K, and have become easily twice as miserable since moving to a town of > 100K. When i have to spend serious time in actual large cities, i become quite depressed. As for services... i end up driving nearly as much now as when i lived in the country. Sure, there are services close by... but there are too many people, too many roads, too many fences and ditches and walls and railroads. I can't walk, i can't bike, i can't skate. If i leave my house, it's just cars, and people. Did i mention i dislike cars? I do. A lot.
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Add me to the list of developers not in the city (also West coast of Canada).
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center
Personally, I don't think so. I agree with the others on this thread that the main thing we need is high speed Internet. The Comox Valley is blessed with that, feeding into the rumour I heard that it's one of the sites of the US Echelon program. What would be good, I think, are some of the other services you mention. Having financial advice/accounting/etc. available would be great. Someone who is more aware of cross-border accounting, or service contracts as opposed to more standard accounting. Also, a place like that would solve another issue: finding like minded individuals when the workplace is in your own house.
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High speed Internet is available in our community and of course without that, it would be difficult to do our kind of work. I like the idea of the office center because I feel social isolated working at home. I used to work as an employee before I started my homebased business. Having a cup of coffee with an other person and discuss all kind of IT and none IT things is something I enjoyed and what I really miss. I also like the idea to "mental leave work" what isn't that easy when you work at home. If I had a chance to rent an office for $100 or $200 dollars a month in a building with other IT Pros, I would definitly rent one. -- modified at 14:56 Friday 16th February, 2007
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I grew up in a small town on the Olympic Peninsula in WA, not far from you. When I graduated high school, I took a job in Dallas, TX. Talk about culture shock. Many years later, here I am living in a mid-size town of less than a million people, thinking "this is way too small" and yearning for the days of living in big-D. I don't understand why people like living in small towns. I saw all these posts about "we *are* getting" or "we *will be* getting" this and that... personally, I'd rather live somewhere that already has it. To each their own. As far as crime... I had my car stereo stolen in WA, nothing ever stolen in 8 years in Dallas, and my Civic was stolen here in FL. So as far as crime goes, the bigger the city I've lived in, the less crime I've been subjected to.
themichaelv wrote:
I don't understand why people like living in small towns.
It's an age thing most likely. I grew up in a very small town as well, moved to and worked in a few different large cities and now feel like I've come full circle back to what I grew up with. When I was young in that small town I could not wait to get out of it, now that I'm older I've lived in both and made my choice. To me a city is something best visited, not lived in, but as you say to each their own.
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Stephan Hoppe wrote:
3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move?
Because it's Canada!!!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Add me to the list of developers not in the city (also West coast of Canada).
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center
Personally, I don't think so. I agree with the others on this thread that the main thing we need is high speed Internet. The Comox Valley is blessed with that, feeding into the rumour I heard that it's one of the sites of the US Echelon program. What would be good, I think, are some of the other services you mention. Having financial advice/accounting/etc. available would be great. Someone who is more aware of cross-border accounting, or service contracts as opposed to more standard accounting. Also, a place like that would solve another issue: finding like minded individuals when the workplace is in your own house.
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This whole idea sounds to me like moving to yet "another" company to be yet "another" face in the collared crowd. X| I wouldn't want to move because then I would have to drive somewhere to work. I hate driving. Commuting sucks. An office center? That's called an employer! I can get what I need from my stapler and scotch tape. If I need more there's kinkos online. My coffee has always been better at home. Financial advice is best received from people who provide to a lot of others and come with a multiple referrals. Medical plans? Yeah, I have one. I drive down the street to see the doctor if something goes wrong. Working in a building, having to drive to get to it and being back in the work-mob sounds like the worst choice with the other being colon surgery.:omg: Count me out.:badger:
code-frog wrote:
An office center? That's called an employer!
The office center wouldn't be an employer. It's just an office you rent with the addition of services you would get like somebody answers the phone e. g. during you are on vacation, a business trip, meeting, ... There would be only IT Pros in the center so you will get a chance to communicate with other IT pros, exchange ideas, ... The best case scenario is that those people help each other with projects they might can't solve by their own.
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move?
Both my wife and I are looking to move further out.... Not too sure that means Canada though. Would consider it depending on the easy of getting in to live in Canada... If your goal is to recruit independent contractors to work there, then sure. I am not an independent and moving with the intention of being self employed doesn't really appeal.
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
office center
I guess that would depend on the type of work you are doing. The office and the meeting rooms might be of some benefit.
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
wouldn't like to move
For us it would be moving to a "foreign" country. All the red tape and hassle of getting legal to work there, buying a house, etc. learning the language...
Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy
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Hi guys, I live in a rural community on the West Cost of Canada with a population of around 15,000 people, I work in my basement for several companies and I love it. There is almost no traffic and crime, you can be everywhere within 5 Minutes, friendly people all over the place and a beautiful nature. The Hospital is almost brand new and the waiting times in the ER are short. Beside that the cost of living is a way less then in the city (like Vancouver). Okay the downsite is we don't have a fancy cinema and the clothing stores suck and all this other kind of things you don't have in a rural community. There is almost no chance to do business with local companies. However, yesterday I was talking to some people at the Economic Development Center about this and the questions were: 1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move? 2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ... 3. What are the reasons they wouldn't like to move? So what do you guys think about that? Cheers! Stephan
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
1. Would other programmers like this kind of lifestyle and what would it take them to move?
Yes. Work permit and clients:-D
Stephan Hoppe wrote:
2. Would it be a benefit for them if there is an office center where they can rent office space for just a couple dollars a month to beeing together with other IT Pros? The administration would offer a secretary, postal services, meeting rooms, coffee (what is important), financial advice, phone service, medical plans, ...
Yes.
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There goes the neighbourhood.... ;) Yeah, we moved here (Comox) this summer. Vic is just toooooo expensive, and we didn't want to move back to Winnipeg (For obvious reasons, even though I love the place dearly).
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There goes the neighbourhood.... ;) Yeah, we moved here (Comox) this summer. Vic is just toooooo expensive, and we didn't want to move back to Winnipeg (For obvious reasons, even though I love the place dearly).
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The "mox" eh? Not exactly rural... ;) We moved into the area about 5 years ago. We used to come here for holidays so decided we might as well live here. We're pretty much in Black Creek / Courtenay / Comox kinda at the intersection of all three.
Well, rural as opposed to "Greater Metropolitan Courtenay" ;) I didn't want completely rural, as I don't drive. This was a nice compromise, I thought. Small enough to be comfy, large enough to have an airport and decent Internet.
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themichaelv wrote:
I don't understand why people like living in small towns.
I could go on about the invigorating beauty of nature, the relative quiet, etc... ...but the truth is, i don't like people. I'm happier when there aren't very many around. I was mildly unhappy in a population of 50K, and have become easily twice as miserable since moving to a town of > 100K. When i have to spend serious time in actual large cities, i become quite depressed. As for services... i end up driving nearly as much now as when i lived in the country. Sure, there are services close by... but there are too many people, too many roads, too many fences and ditches and walls and railroads. I can't walk, i can't bike, i can't skate. If i leave my house, it's just cars, and people. Did i mention i dislike cars? I do. A lot.
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I'm more urban than rural, living in Bristol (UK) now. Manchester would be my second choice. Elaine (urbane urban fluffy tigress)
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themichaelv wrote:
I don't understand why people like living in small towns.
I could go on about the invigorating beauty of nature, the relative quiet, etc... ...but the truth is, i don't like people. I'm happier when there aren't very many around. I was mildly unhappy in a population of 50K, and have become easily twice as miserable since moving to a town of > 100K. When i have to spend serious time in actual large cities, i become quite depressed. As for services... i end up driving nearly as much now as when i lived in the country. Sure, there are services close by... but there are too many people, too many roads, too many fences and ditches and walls and railroads. I can't walk, i can't bike, i can't skate. If i leave my house, it's just cars, and people. Did i mention i dislike cars? I do. A lot.
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So very true After staying in san diego for 1n 1/2 years i went to texas for few days and i was loving the peace there. Boils down to where do you want to spend days of your life , in the middle of a crowd where no one knows you or a small town with ....
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