Source Database
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
Clearcase is vast ocean. Sourcesafe is a small sea.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
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Clearcase is vast ocean. Sourcesafe is a small sea.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:
Clearcase is vast ocean. Sourcesafe is a small sea.
Better to call "pond" instead of sea. Clear case learning curve is a bit high but it really works well. It is one of the best implementaion I saw from Rational. But the price is really high as other Rational Softwares.
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
Sarath. wrote:
Have you experienced with some other tools in this category?
PVCS.
Sarath. wrote:
Share your opinion...
It sucks.
Cheers, Vikram.
"...we are disempowered to cultivate in their communities an inclination to assimilate to our culture." - Stan Shannon.
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Agreed. Subversion and Tortoise are the tools to use.
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I'll third that... Since I installed Subversion, I have not looked at anything else.
Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico
Not much here: My CP Blog!
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
Sarath. wrote:
Share your opinion...
Ya, good source control is essential. I'm about to check in a huge re-write of a nine-year-old library, involving forty-some files, countless changes, and over two weeks of near-constant effort. I'm checking it all into the Source Safe repository that our team uses... but i've been checking changes into my private Subversion repository the whole time i've been working on it. I'd have gone mad without it.
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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/Signed. Works great at least for my group of ~10people.
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
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How about CVS?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
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How about CVS?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
I'm using it with WinCvs as a gui. Once you get started it's ok.
company, work and everything else @ netis
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
I've used Subversion, Seapine Surround and SourceGear Vault, and I'd say that Vault and Subversion are the best two of the bunch. I've not looked into it myself but I've heard some good things about Bazaar[^] which is a distributed version control system, I also know that they have a SubVersion plug-in so you can use your subversion repository in a distributed manner.
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
I'd put sourcesafe at the absolute bottom of the pile. It's eaten more of my source than I care to contemplate. I'd suggest they take the "safe" out of the title, but then it'd just be "source" and that's silly. Subversion is unquestionably the way forward. I use it on my projects at home, but work is pretty tied in to Microsoft, and while the development team all believe sourcesafe to be the steaming pile of dingoes gonads it is, we're a little hampered when it comes to getting anything else.
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
As everyone is saying, Subversion/Tortoise is the way to go. I'm using both Subversion and SourceSafe, and the former is far superior in every way. For example, it has atomic commits, and the putback model means that merging is a relatively safe activity disconnected from the repository. I recently performed a large and complicated merge. I created a temporary svn repository and did all the work there without problems (well... none caused by the tools anyway). When the time came to put the merged result into SourceSafe, it crashed several times before I got everything committed. And I had to stop other people from using the repository in order to avoid potential problems of non-atomicity. The company will hopefully soon shift to svn full time. Not holding my breath...
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We use Subversion and TortoiseSVN here aswell, in a web development environment, and they do work very well. Certainly far better than I remember SourceSafe working, but I used SS back in 2003. Tortoise can improve, of course. Now and again a commit or an update will merge your files in a flawed way, and there are occasional folder problems. These problems are usually fixable within a few minutes, and have never threatened a project.
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I'm also a Subversion and TortoiseSVN fan. Tortoise was great with CVS also, but Subversion is the future. ;)
Hetfield
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Yeah - we've switched from Source(Un)Safe to Subversion and TortoiseSVN (and plan on' svn client for scripting) .. but we're still left with some integration issues. We have some die-hards who "need" to see the icons in VisualC++ 6.0 indicating "dirty" status. I've set up macros for driving TortoiseProc to show log, diff, and update/commit, etc.. Can anyone recommend a VisualC++ 6.0 plugin to integrate TortoiseSVN or Subversion client? -- Raymond Lesley
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Hope you all are using any kind of Source database for integrating the development efforts of team. I've worked with Microsoft Source Safe (not the latest one with the team system bu the old one compatible with VC 6 and 7) and Rational's Clear Case. When I tried Clear Case for the first time I really wondered it's breadth and depth of the meaning of what a source safe is and it's importance while we are working with a large team (Anyway the software is a bit complex that I agree). Especially the branching and merging features. Comparatively MS. Source Safe is a very simple tool and provides some basic functionalities of sharing Source Database. Have you experienced with some other tools in this category? Share your opinion...
-Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern
Clearcase comes into it's own when you start growing and it's the only system I know of that works properly across multiple sites. Elaine :rose: