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    Marcus J Smith
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    This is so minor it probably is a non issue but it bugs me.

    If blnFlag = False Then
    'Good
    Else
    Continue
    End If

    This happens alot but I believe it is better to say

    If blnFlag = True Then
    Continue
    End If


    CleaKO

    "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
    "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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    • M Marcus J Smith

      This is so minor it probably is a non issue but it bugs me.

      If blnFlag = False Then
      'Good
      Else
      Continue
      End If

      This happens alot but I believe it is better to say

      If blnFlag = True Then
      Continue
      End If


      CleaKO

      "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
      "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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      Lost User
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      The bottom one is definitely better. Anyone who writes code like the first example you posted is confused and either needs a vacation or a book thrown at his face.

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      • M Marcus J Smith

        This is so minor it probably is a non issue but it bugs me.

        If blnFlag = False Then
        'Good
        Else
        Continue
        End If

        This happens alot but I believe it is better to say

        If blnFlag = True Then
        Continue
        End If


        CleaKO

        "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
        "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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        pbraun
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Uhm yeah, I think most developers are guilty of doing something like this at one time or another. It certainly isn't the end of the world. I've seen far worse than this in production code that is currently running around the world. Phil

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        • M Marcus J Smith

          This is so minor it probably is a non issue but it bugs me.

          If blnFlag = False Then
          'Good
          Else
          Continue
          End If

          This happens alot but I believe it is better to say

          If blnFlag = True Then
          Continue
          End If


          CleaKO

          "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
          "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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          AncientCodeslinger
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Both examples make me shudder. Why would you compare a boolean to True or False? It IS true or false.

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          • A AncientCodeslinger

            Both examples make me shudder. Why would you compare a boolean to True or False? It IS true or false.

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            Roger Bamforth
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Absolutely. Along the same lines, my pet peeve is

            bool b;

            if (condition)
            {
            b = true;
            }
            else
            {
            b = false;
            }

            what on earth is wrong with

            bool b = condition;

            Regards - Roger

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            • A AncientCodeslinger

              Both examples make me shudder. Why would you compare a boolean to True or False? It IS true or false.

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              Marcus J Smith
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

              If boolean = True

              instead of just saying

              If boolean

              I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

              If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
              'Good Record
              Else
              blnError = True
              End If

              instead of saying

              If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
              blnError = True
              End If


              CleaKO

              "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
              "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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              • M Marcus J Smith

                I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

                If boolean = True

                instead of just saying

                If boolean

                I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

                If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
                'Good Record
                Else
                blnError = True
                End If

                instead of saying

                If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
                blnError = True
                End If


                CleaKO

                "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                jhwurmbach
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                CleaKO wrote:

                think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal. If boolean = True instead of just saying If boolean

                Funny. For me its just the opposite: The superfluous = True imposes the nagging feel in me, I have missed something while reading the code. But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway. :rolleyes:


                Failure is not an option - it's built right in.

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                • M Marcus J Smith

                  I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

                  If boolean = True

                  instead of just saying

                  If boolean

                  I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

                  If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
                  'Good Record
                  Else
                  blnError = True
                  End If

                  instead of saying

                  If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
                  blnError = True
                  End If


                  CleaKO

                  "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                  "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                  Dave Kreskowiak
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Yeah, it's just the opposite for me too. Especially if you name your boolean properties or methods correctly.

                  If UserIsInRole(user, role) Then
                  

                  Just the name of the function implies that it returns a True/False value.

                  Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                  • M Marcus J Smith

                    This is so minor it probably is a non issue but it bugs me.

                    If blnFlag = False Then
                    'Good
                    Else
                    Continue
                    End If

                    This happens alot but I believe it is better to say

                    If blnFlag = True Then
                    Continue
                    End If


                    CleaKO

                    "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                    "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                    Shog9 0
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    I prefer

                    If ( isFlag ) Then Continue

                    Succinct. :cool:

                    ----

                    It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

                    --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                    • R Roger Bamforth

                      Absolutely. Along the same lines, my pet peeve is

                      bool b;

                      if (condition)
                      {
                      b = true;
                      }
                      else
                      {
                      b = false;
                      }

                      what on earth is wrong with

                      bool b = condition;

                      Regards - Roger

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                      Josh Smith
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Roger Bamforth wrote:

                      what on earth is wrong with bool b = condition;

                      In general I completely agree with you. The only time I might use the "bad" way is for debugging purposes. If I only want a breakpoint to hit when 'condition' is false, then I will create an explicit if/else branch. Of course, after debugging I revert the code back to bool b = condition; (I'm usually too lazy to setup debugger conditions!)

                      :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                      • M Marcus J Smith

                        I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

                        If boolean = True

                        instead of just saying

                        If boolean

                        I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

                        If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
                        'Good Record
                        Else
                        blnError = True
                        End If

                        instead of saying

                        If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
                        blnError = True
                        End If


                        CleaKO

                        "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                        "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                        PIEBALDconsult
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        CleaKO wrote:

                        If boolean = True

                        But then you may have trouble when the code is ported to C, so you really need: If True = boolean

                        --| "Every tool is a hammer." |--

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                        • J Josh Smith

                          Roger Bamforth wrote:

                          what on earth is wrong with bool b = condition;

                          In general I completely agree with you. The only time I might use the "bad" way is for debugging purposes. If I only want a breakpoint to hit when 'condition' is false, then I will create an explicit if/else branch. Of course, after debugging I revert the code back to bool b = condition; (I'm usually too lazy to setup debugger conditions!)

                          :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                          Hal Angseesing
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          Yep, done this myself. And debugger conditional breakpoints are actually quite a lot slower than IP traps.

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            CleaKO wrote:

                            If boolean = True

                            But then you may have trouble when the code is ported to C, so you really need: If True = boolean

                            --| "Every tool is a hammer." |--

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                            John R Shaw
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            It is a good idea to place the constant value to the left of the equality symbol in any language that supports them, to catch syntax errors. It just feels so unnatural to type it that way. ;)

                            INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra

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                            • J jhwurmbach

                              CleaKO wrote:

                              think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal. If boolean = True instead of just saying If boolean

                              Funny. For me its just the opposite: The superfluous = True imposes the nagging feel in me, I have missed something while reading the code. But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway. :rolleyes:


                              Failure is not an option - it's built right in.

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                              John R Shaw
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              jhwurmbach wrote:

                              But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway.

                              I know the feeling. ;)

                              INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                CleaKO wrote:

                                If boolean = True

                                But then you may have trouble when the code is ported to C, so you really need: If True = boolean

                                --| "Every tool is a hammer." |--

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                                Shog9 0
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                You might still have trouble in C, if you run up against code that uses other non-zero values for "true"...

                                ----

                                It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

                                --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                                • M Marcus J Smith

                                  I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

                                  If boolean = True

                                  instead of just saying

                                  If boolean

                                  I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

                                  If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
                                  'Good Record
                                  Else
                                  blnError = True
                                  End If

                                  instead of saying

                                  If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
                                  blnError = True
                                  End If


                                  CleaKO

                                  "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                                  "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                                  AncientCodeslinger
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  If that's how you use booleans, you might as well just use an integer set to 1 or 0 or a string set to "Y" or "N" (or "True" or "False"). How about: somethingIsWrong = (type <> "GOOD" AndAlso type <> "Cool") With a variable name that clearly expresses the condition represented by the boolean, the comparison to True or False becomes clearly redundant.

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                                  • R Roger Bamforth

                                    Absolutely. Along the same lines, my pet peeve is

                                    bool b;

                                    if (condition)
                                    {
                                    b = true;
                                    }
                                    else
                                    {
                                    b = false;
                                    }

                                    what on earth is wrong with

                                    bool b = condition;

                                    Regards - Roger

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                                    Graham Bradshaw
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Well, if the condition is to test the equality of two variables,

                                    bool b;

                                    if (x = y)
                                    {
                                    b = true;
                                    }
                                    else
                                    {
                                    b = false;
                                    }

                                    will give you a compiler warning, and

                                    bool b = (x = y);

                                    will not. (Note the assignment vs equality test bug)

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                                    • R Roger Bamforth

                                      Absolutely. Along the same lines, my pet peeve is

                                      bool b;

                                      if (condition)
                                      {
                                      b = true;
                                      }
                                      else
                                      {
                                      b = false;
                                      }

                                      what on earth is wrong with

                                      bool b = condition;

                                      Regards - Roger

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                                      Kevin McFarlane
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      It's also quite common. I often find myself starting with the first one, then after testing, stepping through, etc., I refactor to the second.

                                      Kevin

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                                      • M Marcus J Smith

                                        I think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal.

                                        If boolean = True

                                        instead of just saying

                                        If boolean

                                        I just couldnt think of a good example but what I was getting at is really saying something like

                                        If strType = "GOOD" OrElse strType = "COOL" Then
                                        'Good Record
                                        Else
                                        blnError = True
                                        End If

                                        instead of saying

                                        If strType <> "GOOD" AndAlso strType <> "COOL" Then
                                        blnError = True
                                        End If


                                        CleaKO

                                        "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                                        "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                                        Kevin McFarlane
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        The reason for the first is that some people have a fixation about negative conditionals, such that they will try and avoid them at all costs - such as the cost you describe!

                                        Kevin

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                                        • J jhwurmbach

                                          CleaKO wrote:

                                          think it is just easier to read when you say say what you want it to equal. If boolean = True instead of just saying If boolean

                                          Funny. For me its just the opposite: The superfluous = True imposes the nagging feel in me, I have missed something while reading the code. But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway. :rolleyes:


                                          Failure is not an option - it's built right in.

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                                          Kevin McFarlane
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          jhwurmbach wrote:

                                          But then, the whole VB code gives me a screaming fit anyway.

                                          But you see such style in the C-family languages too, though it's probably less common.

                                          Kevin

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