Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free OS
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Small Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free Operating System [^]
Information Week Article wrote:
For five years, Xcerion has been working on an XML-based Internet operating system, XIOS, that runs inside a Web browser. It's an abstraction layer that sits on top of a true operating system like Linux, Mac OS X, or Windows, just like Transmedia's Flash-based Glide Next media sharing environment.
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
I don't it's Microsoft and Google that have anything to worry about. Without a REAL O/S supporting the browser, supplying stuff like, oh, a TCP/IP stack, a filesystem to store stuff on (it IS an O/S, right?) and a display driver and rendering system, there's no web browser! It's Sun and Java that's got something to worry about. If this thing has any kind of performance, Java's in big trouble. As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we? :-D
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
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I don't it's Microsoft and Google that have anything to worry about. Without a REAL O/S supporting the browser, supplying stuff like, oh, a TCP/IP stack, a filesystem to store stuff on (it IS an O/S, right?) and a display driver and rendering system, there's no web browser! It's Sun and Java that's got something to worry about. If this thing has any kind of performance, Java's in big trouble. As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we? :-D
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we?
Is that a promise? It sounds like a promise.
“Some have an idea that the reason we in this country discard things so readily is because we have so much. The facts are exactly opposite - the reason we have so much is simply because we discard things so readily. We replace the old in return for something that will serve us better.”--Alfred P. Sloan
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a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
then a browser plugin won't
But, it uses XML !!! How can something that use XML NOT be awesome ? Get with the program !!!
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I don't it's Microsoft and Google that have anything to worry about. Without a REAL O/S supporting the browser, supplying stuff like, oh, a TCP/IP stack, a filesystem to store stuff on (it IS an O/S, right?) and a display driver and rendering system, there's no web browser! It's Sun and Java that's got something to worry about. If this thing has any kind of performance, Java's in big trouble. As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we? :-D
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
It's immune, all tests to date have proven that. Obviously, if it's ever in use in the 'real world', all that will change.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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The only way I feel it can have any credibility is if it's released as XIOS beta. If they mention it's Web 2.0 enabled, has built in RSS support and accepts commands only through the intermediary of a blog then I'll be impressed.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
then I'll be impressed
Yeah, but you're easily impressed :)
Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]
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Small Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free Operating System [^]
Information Week Article wrote:
For five years, Xcerion has been working on an XML-based Internet operating system, XIOS, that runs inside a Web browser. It's an abstraction layer that sits on top of a true operating system like Linux, Mac OS X, or Windows, just like Transmedia's Flash-based Glide Next media sharing environment.
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
:laugh: :laugh: But wait - where's the bit about how it can transfer, over a modem, huge movies in 0 (YES ZERO!!) seconds? :rolleyes:
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a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
VB is text based?
We're treading on thin ice here, Chris. Last I checked, C++ and C# are both text-based, too!:omg:
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based?
I agree on that, I don't know what they exactly mean with XML here. You can't render images with XML alone, you will need some sort of system software to convert the calls to data for the video adapter. Since the video adapters don't work with XML (luckely ;P). I am however curious how the thing looks and works in the browser. Too bad they don't have screenshots or a demo.
WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson
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Thanks to the article not linking to the project I did a Google search for XIOS and got; XIOS, authentic Greek cuisine[^].
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Aaahhhhh! Now I understand. I take it all back. This thing will rock. It'll be a bit garlic-ey, but I can live with that.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote:
then I'll be impressed
Yeah, but you're easily impressed :)
Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]
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It's immune, all tests to date have proven that. Obviously, if it's ever in use in the 'real world', all that will change.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
It's immune, all tests to date have proven that.
Tests written by a smallish group of people.
Christian Graus wrote:
Obviously, if it's ever in use in the 'real world', all that will change.
Where a very LARGE group of kiddies with nothing better to do for 16 hours a day will get their shot at it. I'm sure that army can find the flaws in it pretty quick!
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we?
Is that a promise? It sounds like a promise.
“Some have an idea that the reason we in this country discard things so readily is because we have so much. The facts are exactly opposite - the reason we have so much is simply because we discard things so readily. We replace the old in return for something that will serve us better.”--Alfred P. Sloan
Jerry Hammond wrote:
Is that a promise? It sounds like a promise.
Nah, more like an observation after 21 years in the industry! :laugh:
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic