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  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

    Why does this Lotus Notes stop your breath? I have never tried it (hope I won't ever have to try it after these many are scared of it). But just asking this out of my curiosity, take a shot, please tell me what is so bad in it.


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    Vikram A Punathambekar
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    Anyway, here[^] ya go. Just another example: a typical error message you might get when you're doing something as innocuous as, say, opening a mail, would be Variant is Not Set. :confused: What do you think is the keystroke to check for new mail? Surely F5 should refresh your mailbox? No, it will log you off. X| I assure you, there are many, many other such examples. Consider yourself blessed that you've never had to use Notes. :rose:

    Cheers, Vikram.


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      His name is Peterchen. Not Peter Chen.

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      I've been around long enough to know that. It's a sort of running joke between us that I call him Mr. Chen. And his name is NOT Peterchen.

      Cheers, Vikram.


      The cold will freeze our stares We won't care...

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        Lotus Notes, a UI and usability nightmare. X|

        /M


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        Gizz
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        Agree, Lotus Notes is #1 for poor design, unusability, ewww!

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        • B Bradml

          Ok what is the worst piece of software you have ever worked with and why: (It can be any software or code that you have personally worked with) Not limited to something you have developed, can be an OS


          Brad Australian - Captain See Sharp on "Religion" any half intelligent person can come to the conclusion that pink unicorns do not exist.

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          Brady Kelly
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          I've never really had to use very bad software, but one example that comes to mind is a real estate sales and tracking package, Cyber Agent or something, that when you opened the built-in 'word processor', the caption of your document window was the VB5 default, "Form1".

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          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

            Anyway, here[^] ya go. Just another example: a typical error message you might get when you're doing something as innocuous as, say, opening a mail, would be Variant is Not Set. :confused: What do you think is the keystroke to check for new mail? Surely F5 should refresh your mailbox? No, it will log you off. X| I assure you, there are many, many other such examples. Consider yourself blessed that you've never had to use Notes. :rose:

            Cheers, Vikram.


            The cold will freeze our stares We won't care...

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            It looks like a complete nightmare :omg: The spellchecker finds an email address as a misspelt word. :wtf: An error says: Too many windows-you must close one to continue. I am blessed indeed not to have used it.


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            • S S Douglas

              brahmma wrote:

              please tell me what is so bad in it.

              I will save a full rant for another day. Here are just a few reasons I detest Notes.

              • Randomly takes the focus (a process that takes a minute or two)
              • The UI, UGGGG is just absolutely terrible (it’s easier to list what’s good rather than what is bad, and there isn’t anything good about the overall UI).
              • SLOOOOOWW, on my machine after clicking the “New Memo” it’s a full five minutes before I start to actually compose an email.
              • The Search function flat out doesn’t work.
              • The entire app freezes every time I click on an email (doesn’t matter if the preview pane is open or not). Sad but funny enough it does this even if I’m clicking on an email that is already selected.
              • Want to copy and paste a subject line, good luck it doesn’t work.
              • It likes to crash when logging into it, because it spawns a bunch of dumby process it requries you to log off windows before you can log in to it.

              -- modified at 7:13 Wednesday 14th March, 2007 -- modified at 7:58 Wednesday 14th March, 2007


              I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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              Rajesh R Subramanian
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              S Douglas wrote:

              It likes to crash when logging into it, because it spawns a bunch of dumby process it requries you to log off before you can log back in.

              :laugh::laugh:


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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                S Douglas wrote:

                It likes to crash when logging into it, because it spawns a bunch of dumby process it requries you to log off before you can log back in.

                :laugh::laugh:


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                S Douglas
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                Sorry, poorly worded, it makes you log out of windows to kill the dumby processes notes spawns.


                I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                  It looks like a complete nightmare :omg: The spellchecker finds an email address as a misspelt word. :wtf: An error says: Too many windows-you must close one to continue. I am blessed indeed not to have used it.


                  [Frozen Thoughts] | [My Life - My Prayer]
                  Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero ப்ரம்மா

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                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                  If you type in an email address and right-click it, it brings up the formatting menu. Ever known anybody with bold, or perhaps red-colored characters in their email address? If Notes crashes, you have to restart your machine before you can run it again. If you don't, Notes will ask you to. There are actually other programs (some commercial, IIRC) that kill the zombie processes so you can run Notes without having to reboot. :omg:

                  Cheers, Vikram.


                  The cold will freeze our stares We won't care...

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                  • S S Douglas

                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                    Do you have WinRAR?

                    Not at work, but I've figured out how to combat the ever crashing Notes issue. Just go kill all the dumby processes that Notes spawns. X| We are as predictable as Notes is useless. :rolleyes:


                    I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                    I embedded the setup in a .DOC file and sent it to your gmail address. Let me know if you got it.

                    Cheers, Vikram.


                    The cold will freeze our stares We won't care...

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                    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                      I embedded the setup in a .DOC file and sent it to your gmail address. Let me know if you got it.

                      Cheers, Vikram.


                      The cold will freeze our stares We won't care...

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                      S Douglas
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                      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                      Let me know if you got it.

                      :cool: Thanks will do!


                      I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                        If you type in an email address and right-click it, it brings up the formatting menu. Ever known anybody with bold, or perhaps red-colored characters in their email address? If Notes crashes, you have to restart your machine before you can run it again. If you don't, Notes will ask you to. There are actually other programs (some commercial, IIRC) that kill the zombie processes so you can run Notes without having to reboot. :omg:

                        Cheers, Vikram.


                        The cold will freeze our stares We won't care...

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                        If you type in an email address and right-click it, it brings up the formatting menu.

                        Thas is one of the most pathetic things I've ever heard in software development.


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                        • A Abu Mami

                          Well, Symantec calls it "Norton Antivirus", but we all know that it itself is a virus. Did you ever try to uninstall it? Can't be done.

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                          Abu Mami wrote:

                          Well, Symantec calls it "Norton Antivirus", but we all know that it itself is a virus. Did you ever try to uninstall it? Can't be done.

                          3 hours of quality time with regedit later, I was able to remove a fubared install. The fubaring was from trying to install symantec corporate over top.

                          -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                          • B Bradml

                            Ok what is the worst piece of software you have ever worked with and why: (It can be any software or code that you have personally worked with) Not limited to something you have developed, can be an OS


                            Brad Australian - Captain See Sharp on "Religion" any half intelligent person can come to the conclusion that pink unicorns do not exist.

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                            Roger Wright
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                            Most recently, a product called Dimensions, which is a suite designed for accounting and sales tailored for hardware stores. It's written in something called Business BASIC, and runs only on an obsolete, proprietary OS called SuperDOS. Dimensions is text-based, uses a monochrome display, and is easily the most user-hostile piece of crap written since 1980 - the last year it could be called current. Prior to that, Windows 286. I couldn't uninstall that garbage fast enough!

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                            • L loket

                              Lotus Notes, a UI and usability nightmare. X|

                              /M


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                              brianwelsch
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                              Without question.

                              BW


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                              • W WillemM

                                I'm surprised ;P It's not that other version, whats it called again? Vista or something...

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                                Hold your breath on that one. I think Vista is going to be a great platform in it's time. It's very new and is going to require some adaptation. Change is painful but please don't tell me that XP has been an epiphany. Vista is going to get it done.


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                                  Lotus Notes, a UI and usability nightmare. X|

                                  /M


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                                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                  I hate it with a passion. I once attempted to develop a spreadsheet application in notes. It crashed constantly, ported to excel it worked flawless. Currently it takes about 30 seconds to preview an email. I can't see email headers, attachments are drag and drop, F5 locks not refreshes. Address book sucks. I hate notes almost as bad as I hate VM's.


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                                  • B Bradml

                                    Ok what is the worst piece of software you have ever worked with and why: (It can be any software or code that you have personally worked with) Not limited to something you have developed, can be an OS


                                    Brad Australian - Captain See Sharp on "Religion" any half intelligent person can come to the conclusion that pink unicorns do not exist.

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                                    i worked on a financial reporting application that was based around a giant set of calculation classes. a report was created by bundling up a bunch of the calc classes (one for each calc you wanted to show on the report), which would then go through a dependency engine to arrange them correctly so that it would avoid duplicate calcs. each of these calc classes ended up generating a SQL fragment; and then all the SQL fragments would get glued together into a gigantic nightmare SQL query that would grab all the data, for all the different calc objects, in an enormous recordset that all the calcs would pick through. so far, so good, i guess. but, writing these classes required that you knew every detail about the calc: what it did, how it related to all the other calcs, what it depended on, what depended on it, where the data lived, what tables you had to JOIN to get the data, how to format the result of the calc after you got the data so that it could be used by any other calc, etc.. so, every calc class was different, there were hundreds of them, and there was a deadline. but, the people who designed the system had all left. and there were only like two people, on the team of 70 programmers (mostly contractors), who really understood the system well enough to be able to explain to anyone else why class A had to be written this way, but class B had to be written this other way... and they didn't have the time or energy to explain it all to each of us, because they were busy writing the complex calculation classes (which none of the rest of us could even begin to deal with). i lasted just a couple of months there before i quit because i couldn't get anything done, because none of it made any sense, and nobody had the time to explain anything. from what i hear, the project eventually collapsed.

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                                      Ok what is the worst piece of software you have ever worked with and why: (It can be any software or code that you have personally worked with) Not limited to something you have developed, can be an OS


                                      Brad Australian - Captain See Sharp on "Religion" any half intelligent person can come to the conclusion that pink unicorns do not exist.

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                                      The one that I hate with a passion is Caligari Truespace. It has the most confusing interface I have ever had the mispleasure of working with.

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                                      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                        I've been around long enough to know that. It's a sort of running joke between us that I call him Mr. Chen. And his name is NOT Peterchen.

                                        Cheers, Vikram.


                                        The cold will freeze our stares We won't care...

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                                        peterchen
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                                        I should remote-kick you anyway, just for the principles. But it's definitely cool to have Chris point this out :cool: :jig: Only one? So I can't submit Stallshield, Installsh*t, and Shields-me-from-installing as separate entries? :(


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                                          Lotus Notes, a UI and usability nightmare. X|

                                          /M


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                                          Absolutely the worst.


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