Handguns
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartYet another reason for mandatory national military service. I got my gun lust out of my system during my time in the Army and NG.
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See, I've heard that, and I don't buy it. In my house I regularly kill scorpions and redback spiders. I've had lots of spider bites. I carry a tourniquet if I go on the far side of the property, although I've never seen a snake on my actual land. But, that's a small price to pay IMO to live in a country lacking in bears, wolves and cougars.
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I've never been face to face with a bear, wolf, or cougar outside of a zoo. Rattlesnakes, scorpians, and black widows are a different story.
This statement was never false.
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I've never been face to face with a bear, wolf, or cougar outside of a zoo. Rattlesnakes, scorpians, and black widows are a different story.
This statement was never false.
You've had to face all those things ? Then I guess it's about the same.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartIf you didn't grow up around guns I would highly recommend a safety course. Double Action means you can pull the trigger to cock and fire while single action means you manually cock and then fire. Although most double action revolvers are also single action you should check. My personal favorite was my S&W .45 acp. The metal on metal sound when you pull the slide back is enough to make any burglar in the night runaway. Also, depending on your State a concealed permit may offer you no additional rights over a non-concealed permit. Be safe and fire the weapon before you buy it.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartI recommend pistols. Easier to shoot IMHO. That makes it better as a gun for the shooting range as well as self protection. As for safety - common sense is the deciding factor. If a gun doesn't have a safety switch, or if it involves a 35-step sequence or inhuman physiology to switch it, then don't buy it. Remember that it is you who is supposed to feel comfortable with the safety switch. :) .32 is an excellent choice of caliber. It's perfect at the shooting range (nice recoil), and it WILL do some serious damage to a human body. Make sure to explore the different types of shooting. There are many forms which are totally different from each other, but all very entertaining. The only downside is that many forms require their own type of gun.
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
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If you didn't grow up around guns I would highly recommend a safety course. Double Action means you can pull the trigger to cock and fire while single action means you manually cock and then fire. Although most double action revolvers are also single action you should check. My personal favorite was my S&W .45 acp. The metal on metal sound when you pull the slide back is enough to make any burglar in the night runaway. Also, depending on your State a concealed permit may offer you no additional rights over a non-concealed permit. Be safe and fire the weapon before you buy it.
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Dude.. you've got a potty mouth! :-D
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
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Yet another reason for mandatory national military service. I got my gun lust out of my system during my time in the Army and NG.
Some people use guns like other people use dart arrows. It's not about the bang or the "coolness factor". It's about becoming better at what you do. That is never bad.
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartIf you want to buy a gun that looks good, then I agree - there's nothing like that Dirty Harry look. If you want to buy a gun for social situations, then you should consider something like the Smith & Wesson Model 638 Bodyguard Airweight. This gun has a shrouded hammer, which is ideal for quick pulling out of a pocket, and it only weighs 15oz. But for home defense, I would recommend a Sig Sauer in either .40 or .45 caliber (my favorite). The .40 caliber (also known as the FBI round) was specially developed for the FBI after a drug shootout in Florida, where the agents' puny 9 cal rounds were bouncing off windshields - less recoil than a .45, but much more lethal than a 9mm. Check out the Sigs if you are going to buy an auto - this is a favorite of law enforcement, because it has no safety - you can draw and fire without having to pull back the hammer (as you have to with Glocks, etc.). The Sigs are also extremely easy to strip & clean. Finally, if you want a high-end auto, look at the line of Kimber guns. Very well-made, won't jam even if very dirty. For ammo, look at the Glaser Safety Slug - this is ideal for home defense, because it won't penetrate walls, while at the same time it will fragment inside the body, thus almost guaranteeing 100% fatalities.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartStrange question for a coding platform is'nt it? However the only one I ever used was the HK-P8. Easy to assemble/disassemble, easy to use and small. 15 rounds per Magazine why should you go for a colt with less? (Reloading a colt seems quite impractical.) From the few shots I fired with the P8 during my involuntary time in the army I never missed anything and i had absolutely no experience with guns.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartYou should invest in a glock. These bad dogs can be buried in sand, completely submerged in water and still come up firing. What's cooler than that, eh? I sport a Glock .40 myself, and love it.:cool:
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Dude.. you've got a potty mouth! :-D
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
no shit! he's all cock this and cock that! cock cock cock!
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Dude.. you've got a potty mouth! :-D
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
That didn't even occur to me while I was posting. The keyword filter should really be context specific!
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Some people use guns like other people use dart arrows. It's not about the bang or the "coolness factor". It's about becoming better at what you do. That is never bad.
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
According to the OP: I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler. Maybe I read too much into that line, but it sounded like he wants a gun for the bang and the "coolness factor".
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peartbrianwelsch wrote:
I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes
This is something I find scary. The last statistic I saw for the US was over 11,000 handgun deaths a year. Might I suggest you look up how many childtren are injured or killed by guns in the household. Elaine :rose:
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According to the OP: I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler. Maybe I read too much into that line, but it sounded like he wants a gun for the bang and the "coolness factor".
I'm not getting a gun simply because I think they are cool, but since there is a choice between different models, emotional factors come into play during selection. That's all I meant. I prefer the look and style of a revolver. The coolness factor will come into play when I'm on the range shooting regardless. :rolleyes:
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Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartI've seen lots of handguns that are works of beauty and craftsmanship. But, I don't know a damn thing about them and they scare the hell out of me. If you were looking for a rifle on the other hand, I'd have lots of things to say. I grew up around them and feel very comfortable with them. I have a pair of handcrafted Winchester 30-30s from my da that are about as close to works of art as a fire-arm can be. On top of that I am big fan of some of the old Browning and Sharps rifles as well.
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If you didn't grow up around guns I would highly recommend a safety course. Double Action means you can pull the trigger to cock and fire while single action means you manually cock and then fire. Although most double action revolvers are also single action you should check. My personal favorite was my S&W .45 acp. The metal on metal sound when you pull the slide back is enough to make any burglar in the night runaway. Also, depending on your State a concealed permit may offer you no additional rights over a non-concealed permit. Be safe and fire the weapon before you buy it.
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I'm taking a basic safety course this Saturday.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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brianwelsch wrote:
why not give myself the option to make that decision later?
I guess there is a certain logic in that - personally I would be so incredibly paranoid if I was carrying a gun I'd prolly have a coronary. I saw a statistic once about the number of Americans who lose their guns in a year. Just lose them. Staggering. :omg:
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If you think that's scary, you should see the statistics on how many crimes are avoided because the intended victim had a gun and let it be seen! Apparently (and, I guess, not surprisingly) most criminals would rather not face armed victims, but instead prefer to prey on the helpless. It's over a million a year in the US alone, yet for some silly reason, even though I have guns and the required permits, I don't ever think to carry one. Sheesh...:doh:
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