Handguns
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Christian Graus wrote:
I have the option of living in a country that's safer
But doesn't the natural life of Australia, as one writer put it, "harbor more things that can kill you in extremely nasty ways than anywhere else, including sharks, crocodiles, snakes..."
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
See, I've heard that, and I don't buy it. In my house I regularly kill scorpions and redback spiders. I've had lots of spider bites. I carry a tourniquet if I go on the far side of the property, although I've never seen a snake on my actual land. But, that's a small price to pay IMO to live in a country lacking in bears, wolves and cougars.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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brianwelsch wrote:
I will be getting a concealed weapons permit
Why?
"If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt." - Dean Martin
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peart -
I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartWell first of all I'll just say that we don't have any hand-guns (not allowed here in Britain) but do have: 2x .22 rim-fire Rifles (one of them is an octagonal barrelled Jeffrey's rifle, one of 8 in the world I think). 1x .243 center-fire (for deer stalking in Scotland) 1x firearms power .22 air-rifle[^] (don't underestimate this baby, will go straight through rabbits at 100yds) 1x Browning Ultra XS 12G[^] which I'll be bringing out with me to America next month. 1x Charles Lancaster 12G Side-by-side (150yrs old give or take a few) 1x El Chimbo .410 side-by-side hammer shotgun 1x air-pistol 1x old air-rifle
brianwelsch wrote:
regarding caliber
Not sure for pistols but rifle's it's generally considered the Springfield .303 for shotgun's it's a 12 bore.
brianwelsch wrote:
brands
Anything Russian for pistols / rifles I would think, English if shotguns.
brianwelsch wrote:
features
As few as possible, less things to go wrong.
brianwelsch wrote:
Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned?
Not really, it's all the same process, a bronze-brush, wool brush and a little bit of oil.
brianwelsch wrote:
What should I look for regarding locking the gun
Something that will lock the firing pin, preferably blocking it so that it can't accidentally go off. I don't know if pistol's have this but most shotguns have something like that. If you're going for a hammer gun it's one of the safest because you never cock it before you're ready to fire and it's very obvious whether it's cocked or not.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartYet another reason for mandatory national military service. I got my gun lust out of my system during my time in the Army and NG.
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See, I've heard that, and I don't buy it. In my house I regularly kill scorpions and redback spiders. I've had lots of spider bites. I carry a tourniquet if I go on the far side of the property, although I've never seen a snake on my actual land. But, that's a small price to pay IMO to live in a country lacking in bears, wolves and cougars.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
I've never been face to face with a bear, wolf, or cougar outside of a zoo. Rattlesnakes, scorpians, and black widows are a different story.
This statement was never false.
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I've never been face to face with a bear, wolf, or cougar outside of a zoo. Rattlesnakes, scorpians, and black widows are a different story.
This statement was never false.
You've had to face all those things ? Then I guess it's about the same.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartIf you didn't grow up around guns I would highly recommend a safety course. Double Action means you can pull the trigger to cock and fire while single action means you manually cock and then fire. Although most double action revolvers are also single action you should check. My personal favorite was my S&W .45 acp. The metal on metal sound when you pull the slide back is enough to make any burglar in the night runaway. Also, depending on your State a concealed permit may offer you no additional rights over a non-concealed permit. Be safe and fire the weapon before you buy it.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartI recommend pistols. Easier to shoot IMHO. That makes it better as a gun for the shooting range as well as self protection. As for safety - common sense is the deciding factor. If a gun doesn't have a safety switch, or if it involves a 35-step sequence or inhuman physiology to switch it, then don't buy it. Remember that it is you who is supposed to feel comfortable with the safety switch. :) .32 is an excellent choice of caliber. It's perfect at the shooting range (nice recoil), and it WILL do some serious damage to a human body. Make sure to explore the different types of shooting. There are many forms which are totally different from each other, but all very entertaining. The only downside is that many forms require their own type of gun.
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
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If you didn't grow up around guns I would highly recommend a safety course. Double Action means you can pull the trigger to cock and fire while single action means you manually cock and then fire. Although most double action revolvers are also single action you should check. My personal favorite was my S&W .45 acp. The metal on metal sound when you pull the slide back is enough to make any burglar in the night runaway. Also, depending on your State a concealed permit may offer you no additional rights over a non-concealed permit. Be safe and fire the weapon before you buy it.
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Dude.. you've got a potty mouth! :-D
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
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Yet another reason for mandatory national military service. I got my gun lust out of my system during my time in the Army and NG.
Some people use guns like other people use dart arrows. It's not about the bang or the "coolness factor". It's about becoming better at what you do. That is never bad.
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartIf you want to buy a gun that looks good, then I agree - there's nothing like that Dirty Harry look. If you want to buy a gun for social situations, then you should consider something like the Smith & Wesson Model 638 Bodyguard Airweight. This gun has a shrouded hammer, which is ideal for quick pulling out of a pocket, and it only weighs 15oz. But for home defense, I would recommend a Sig Sauer in either .40 or .45 caliber (my favorite). The .40 caliber (also known as the FBI round) was specially developed for the FBI after a drug shootout in Florida, where the agents' puny 9 cal rounds were bouncing off windshields - less recoil than a .45, but much more lethal than a 9mm. Check out the Sigs if you are going to buy an auto - this is a favorite of law enforcement, because it has no safety - you can draw and fire without having to pull back the hammer (as you have to with Glocks, etc.). The Sigs are also extremely easy to strip & clean. Finally, if you want a high-end auto, look at the line of Kimber guns. Very well-made, won't jam even if very dirty. For ammo, look at the Glaser Safety Slug - this is ideal for home defense, because it won't penetrate walls, while at the same time it will fragment inside the body, thus almost guaranteeing 100% fatalities.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartStrange question for a coding platform is'nt it? However the only one I ever used was the HK-P8. Easy to assemble/disassemble, easy to use and small. 15 rounds per Magazine why should you go for a colt with less? (Reloading a colt seems quite impractical.) From the few shots I fired with the P8 during my involuntary time in the army I never missed anything and i had absolutely no experience with guns.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartYou should invest in a glock. These bad dogs can be buried in sand, completely submerged in water and still come up firing. What's cooler than that, eh? I sport a Glock .40 myself, and love it.:cool:
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Dude.. you've got a potty mouth! :-D
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
no shit! he's all cock this and cock that! cock cock cock!
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Dude.. you've got a potty mouth! :-D
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
That didn't even occur to me while I was posting. The keyword filter should really be context specific!
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Some people use guns like other people use dart arrows. It's not about the bang or the "coolness factor". It's about becoming better at what you do. That is never bad.
-- They don't really want you to play "Freebird". They're just heckling you!
According to the OP: I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler. Maybe I read too much into that line, but it sounded like he wants a gun for the bang and the "coolness factor".
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peartbrianwelsch wrote:
I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes
This is something I find scary. The last statistic I saw for the US was over 11,000 handgun deaths a year. Might I suggest you look up how many childtren are injured or killed by guns in the household. Elaine :rose:
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