Handguns
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You've had to face all those things ? Then I guess it's about the same.
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Yeah, when I was 8 I had to slowly wait for the rattle to stop before backing away. When in high school I found a scorpian in my shop class, put it in a jar and took it to my English class, which promptly put all the gals on their chairs. :) Black widows are just everywhere. A friend of mine gets bit all the time, but I never have. Guess they're not out to get me. :laugh:
This statement was never false.
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Yes, but we can run away from all of them pretty easily. If we spot them first, that is :D (except anything in the water. You're essentially swimming in someone elses refrigerator)
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Chris Maunder wrote:
You're essentially swimming in someone elses refrigerator
:laugh: Nicely put. :laugh:
This statement was never false.
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I'm not sure which you find scary. The added possibility of an accident simply due to owning a gun, or the implication that I feel a handgun might be necessary for safety. In 36 years I have not been in a situation where I felt a handgun would have been beneficial. Based on that I have no reason to strongly believe the next 36 years will be any different. However, since I will have a handgun, and it's primary purpose is as a weapon, I think it's worthwhile to think of it for self-defense as well as sport. I rarely have children in my home, but you're right that I should do research on safety and educate myself on the cause of most accidents in the home.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartWhat's the best defense technique? It isn't Karate, or any martial art. It isn't carrying a gun. It's avoiding the situation in the first place. Seems to me you're saying "I go to places that are dangerous enough for me to need a gun". Here's a suggestion. Forget the gun, and don't go to those places. How often will you carry it with you? All the time? Just when you know you're going somewhere dangerous? The last three questions aren't rhetorical, by the way. I'm genuinely interested in the answer.
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You've asked a bunch of developers about what type of concealed weapon you should purchase. The answers you have received range from the practical, the flippant, to the ridiculous. That's not what disappoints me. What disappoints me is no one - no one - has attempted to discuss - will it come with a built in MP3 player or GPS? - will it be bluetooth compatible? - will it work with Vista? 64bit? What about driver support? - will it support the X10 protocol? - does it come with an SD card slot? - will it be compatible with other concealed weapons or will you tied to a single vendor's solution? - is it upgradable? Over the internet? Automatically? If a problem is found who long will it take for a fix to be made available? - what sort of belt clip will you be getting and will balance your pager, iPod, blackberry and leatherman tool on the other side? - Is the power supply world compatible or will you need to by a converter? - what colours are available?
cheers, Chris Maunder
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What's the best defense technique? It isn't Karate, or any martial art. It isn't carrying a gun. It's avoiding the situation in the first place. Seems to me you're saying "I go to places that are dangerous enough for me to need a gun". Here's a suggestion. Forget the gun, and don't go to those places. How often will you carry it with you? All the time? Just when you know you're going somewhere dangerous? The last three questions aren't rhetorical, by the way. I'm genuinely interested in the answer.
Graham Bradshaw wrote:
avoiding the situation in the first place.
Agreed. I have stated I've never needed one in the past 36 years, and have no reason to believe I will in the future. In another post I mentioned I probably wouldn't have the courage to carry the gun with me at all, at least that's how I feel right now. The primary reason for me to get one is really to go down to the range and shoot for sport. Since I'm buying one, though, I'm considering all uses. My consideration for carrying the gun as a concealed weapon, is that it's merely an option should I find the need arises for me carry one with me. In reality, I probably will never carry it with me.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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Yet another reason for mandatory national military service. I got my gun lust out of my system during my time in the Army and NG.
I just lost my lust to shoot at anything living. I'd rather take a bullet for someone than shoot at their attacker. I could not live with killing someone, be it justified or not. There is one single exception, though. If anyone physically abuses my sis or my niece, they are going down, and they are going down hard. I cannot really write what I would do, not here, but it would be in every newspaper around the globe, trust me on that.
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You've asked a bunch of developers about what type of concealed weapon you should purchase. The answers you have received range from the practical, the flippant, to the ridiculous. That's not what disappoints me. What disappoints me is no one - no one - has attempted to discuss - will it come with a built in MP3 player or GPS? - will it be bluetooth compatible? - will it work with Vista? 64bit? What about driver support? - will it support the X10 protocol? - does it come with an SD card slot? - will it be compatible with other concealed weapons or will you tied to a single vendor's solution? - is it upgradable? Over the internet? Automatically? If a problem is found who long will it take for a fix to be made available? - what sort of belt clip will you be getting and will balance your pager, iPod, blackberry and leatherman tool on the other side? - Is the power supply world compatible or will you need to by a converter? - what colours are available?
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
:laugh: The X10 option would make for a sweet addition to the home. Maybe hook up a camera and some face recognition software. If the intruder isn't recognized from my database of friends and family, they get a warning and BAM! :rolleyes:
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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I just lost my lust to shoot at anything living. I'd rather take a bullet for someone than shoot at their attacker. I could not live with killing someone, be it justified or not. There is one single exception, though. If anyone physically abuses my sis or my niece, they are going down, and they are going down hard. I cannot really write what I would do, not here, but it would be in every newspaper around the globe, trust me on that.
I really don't know if I could shoot someone. If it came down to someone physically harming me or my friends/family, I could. If someone was just robbing me. I'd probably shoot in the air to try to scare them off, but otherwise let the insurance company pay me back.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peart -
You've asked a bunch of developers about what type of concealed weapon you should purchase. The answers you have received range from the practical, the flippant, to the ridiculous. That's not what disappoints me. What disappoints me is no one - no one - has attempted to discuss - will it come with a built in MP3 player or GPS? - will it be bluetooth compatible? - will it work with Vista? 64bit? What about driver support? - will it support the X10 protocol? - does it come with an SD card slot? - will it be compatible with other concealed weapons or will you tied to a single vendor's solution? - is it upgradable? Over the internet? Automatically? If a problem is found who long will it take for a fix to be made available? - what sort of belt clip will you be getting and will balance your pager, iPod, blackberry and leatherman tool on the other side? - Is the power supply world compatible or will you need to by a converter? - what colours are available?
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Easy, big boss: -Both, but they will be delivered in a later revision, and for just a small fee. -No. It will have a blue LED, though. -It will work with Microsoft Hasta La Vista and Apple "Make my Day Punk-Tiger". If he gets a revolver, 5/6 bit, up to 15 bits otherwise. It will support all drivers of pickups and beat-up minivans. -It will support emergency protocol, and thats about it. -Optional. Mandatory, if you buy the MP3/GPS Update. For a small fee. -Yes, the gun will support dual-carry. You only get the simultaneous-gunSLInger-option with two identical models. -Yes. Yes. Yes. 2 months. -The magazine can optionally take up to two pounds of lead (leaving out some bullets) for counter-weight. -It will work anywhere. Spare parts will only be available in Simbabwe and on the Easter Island, though. -Black, Semi-Black, Anthrazit, Dark-Black, Dark-Grey, Darker-Grey and Pink I hope I answered all your questions. Please, be safe and always follow our motto: If in doubt, shoot it out. ;)
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If you think that's scary, you should see the statistics on how many crimes are avoided because the intended victim had a gun and let it be seen! Apparently (and, I guess, not surprisingly) most criminals would rather not face armed victims, but instead prefer to prey on the helpless. It's over a million a year in the US alone, yet for some silly reason, even though I have guns and the required permits, I don't ever think to carry one. Sheesh...:doh:
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Well that whole martial arts thing kinda helps alleviate fear of not being able to handle a confrontation too. It's not exactly like you need a gun to defend yourself. Just mentioning that you're trained in a martial art is usually enough to cause someone to think twice about trying anything on you. At least, that's how it's happened in the few confrontations I've been in.
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Graham Bradshaw wrote:
avoiding the situation in the first place.
Agreed. I have stated I've never needed one in the past 36 years, and have no reason to believe I will in the future. In another post I mentioned I probably wouldn't have the courage to carry the gun with me at all, at least that's how I feel right now. The primary reason for me to get one is really to go down to the range and shoot for sport. Since I'm buying one, though, I'm considering all uses. My consideration for carrying the gun as a concealed weapon, is that it's merely an option should I find the need arises for me carry one with me. In reality, I probably will never carry it with me.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartI have no problem with shooting for sport, and I never had (see above for anything else). I actually do find weapons somewhat fascinating, and I have shot a friends guns (in Germany, it is more difficult to legally own a gun, and almost impossible to legally carry, except in high-profile jobs (armored truck crew, etc.). He, however, legally owns a vast array of guns, ranging from the Sig P226 (I liked that one most), Glock some-teen (can't remember) to the HK SL8 and MP5-K (afair, single shots only). In Germany, I never felt the need for a gun, not for my safety and not for the safety of those around me. I can imagine that this might be different in a country where almost everyone can legally own and carry a gun, and where - naturally - it is just as easy to illegally own and carry.
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You've asked a bunch of developers about what type of concealed weapon you should purchase. The answers you have received range from the practical, the flippant, to the ridiculous. That's not what disappoints me. What disappoints me is no one - no one - has attempted to discuss - will it come with a built in MP3 player or GPS? - will it be bluetooth compatible? - will it work with Vista? 64bit? What about driver support? - will it support the X10 protocol? - does it come with an SD card slot? - will it be compatible with other concealed weapons or will you tied to a single vendor's solution? - is it upgradable? Over the internet? Automatically? If a problem is found who long will it take for a fix to be made available? - what sort of belt clip will you be getting and will balance your pager, iPod, blackberry and leatherman tool on the other side? - Is the power supply world compatible or will you need to by a converter? - what colours are available?
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peartbrianwelsch wrote:
think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes
Holy shit, where do you live that warrants carrying a hand gun for defensive purposes - Iraq?
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I'm in the market for a handgun, but am still just learning about guns. I'm primarily interested in using it at the shooting range; however if I'm going to spend the money I think it's worth giving consideration to using it for defensive purposes. I will be getting a concealed weapons permit, so longer barreled pistols wouldn't be practical. I'm currently considering a double-action revolver over an automatic, for the reason of reliability and I think they look much cooler.:rolleyes: I'm interested in the Ruger GP100 (GP141)[^]. Anyone have/use one? Any suggestions on what to consider regarding caliber, brands, features, etc? Any differences between guns where cleaning is concerned? What should I look for regarding locking the gun (safety, trigger lock, etc)? Thanks.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peart...about 7 feet long, with a nasty pointy spikey bit on the end. It may not be much good at long range, but it's just so much more personal... :->
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I've seen lots of handguns that are works of beauty and craftsmanship. But, I don't know a damn thing about them and they scare the hell out of me. If you were looking for a rifle on the other hand, I'd have lots of things to say. I grew up around them and feel very comfortable with them. I have a pair of handcrafted Winchester 30-30s from my da that are about as close to works of art as a fire-arm can be. On top of that I am big fan of some of the old Browning and Sharps rifles as well.
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I don't know the facts and figures so I stand to be corrected but a large proportion of firearm deaths and injuries are not to decent, law abiding, minding their own business citizens but people who are the 'bad guys' anyway - drug dealers, gang members etc. I would also guess that the second largest group of deaths and injuries result from accidental shootings, hunting accidents, cleaning loaded gun etc. A 3rd group I suggest the smallest would be those who have successfully killed/injured in legitimate self defence against home invaders, armed robbers etc. Given this the self-defence arguement doesn't really stand, although anyone who has been subject to violence against themselves may well find a great peace of mind knowing there is a gun to hand should they need it. I also see that people might want to have a gun for hunting or sport (notice the distinction) - a gun is no more dangerous than a car or a bag of fertilizer if used legitimately.
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I really don't know if I could shoot someone. If it came down to someone physically harming me or my friends/family, I could. If someone was just robbing me. I'd probably shoot in the air to try to scare them off, but otherwise let the insurance company pay me back.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peart*drawing* a weapon constitutes the use of deadly force under the law, and in most (all?) of the US using deadly force to defend yourself from deadly force isn't a crime. If you;re not able to follow through don't carry one. While simply brandishing it will almost always cause a would be mugger to back down if he were to escalate back you're SOL.
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...about 7 feet long, with a nasty pointy spikey bit on the end. It may not be much good at long range, but it's just so much more personal... :->
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Is there much technique to using pikes and such? Just curious if there was training to go along with their use, like you might go through for swords.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peart -
...about 7 feet long, with a nasty pointy spikey bit on the end. It may not be much good at long range, but it's just so much more personal... :->
Anna :rose: Linting the day away :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"
New mate?;) Oh wait, you mean a spear-type weapon.:doh:
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