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  • S Stigmurder

    I've been reading over alot of .NET code(VB) and so far I don't like what I see. I hate being behind in times but I'm wondering is it worth switching from vb6 to .NET? Whats so good about .NET? P.S. if you're just going to be a jackass then please don't answer. I would like some serious replies. -- modified at 16:00 Wednesday 28th March, 2007

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    Stigmurder wrote:

    Whats so good about .NET?

    Just take a look at the want ads in the local paper and try to think of when the last time you saw an ad for VB6 developer. :~

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      Stigmurder wrote:

      Whats so good about .NET?

      Just take a look at the want ads in the local paper and try to think of when the last time you saw an ad for VB6 developer. :~

      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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      I program for fun not for money.

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        VB... and so far I don't like what I see.

        Uh, that's putting your foot into it. So, what exactly is it you don't like? Marc

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        It just seems like more work to write a prog in .NET. But then again I really don't know. Thats why I'm asking. I'll go look for some examples.

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          I program for fun not for money.

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          Stigmurder wrote:

          I program for fun not for money.

          Yes, we have noticed. :suss:


          Engaged in the learning of English grammar. ;)
          For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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            Stigmurder wrote:

            I program for fun not for money.

            Yes, we have noticed. :suss:


            Engaged in the learning of English grammar. ;)
            For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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            You know I asked this question with the intent on getting some helpful answers, not to get flamed. Gotta love this vb community.

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              Microsoft .NET Framework SDK QuickStart Tutorials[^] Enjoy...


              Engaged in the learning of English grammar. ;)
              For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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              Thanks I'll check this out.

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              • S Stigmurder

                You know I asked this question with the intent on getting some helpful answers, not to get flamed. Gotta love this vb community.

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                Stigmurder wrote:

                You know I asked this question with the intent on getting some helpful answers, not to get flamed. Gotta love this vb community.

                Relax. VB programmers are a bit... "discriminated" here, but a lot of good programmers here have this "dark past". VB.Net have so much changes that is considered a new language. VB6 is so obsolete that MS finalized the support years ago. Follow the link that I provided above, download Visual Basic Express 2005 and have fun! Sorry my tone in the previous post, but a good start in asking something is learning how to ask. ;)


                Engaged in the learning of English grammar. ;)
                For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                • S Stigmurder

                  You know I asked this question with the intent on getting some helpful answers, not to get flamed. Gotta love this vb community.

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                  Stigmurder wrote:

                  Gotta love this vb community.

                  Yeah shocking. :rolleyes: If you wanted serious answers why didn't you post in the VB.NET forum? :rolleyes: I would make more comments but I am getting a headache from rolling my eyes after each one.

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                  • S Stigmurder

                    I've been reading over alot of .NET code(VB) and so far I don't like what I see. I hate being behind in times but I'm wondering is it worth switching from vb6 to .NET? Whats so good about .NET? P.S. if you're just going to be a jackass then please don't answer. I would like some serious replies. -- modified at 16:00 Wednesday 28th March, 2007

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                    Here's a short list of instant wins in VB.Net[^] that might persuade you to give it a go...

                    '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                      Stigmurder wrote:

                      You know I asked this question with the intent on getting some helpful answers, not to get flamed. Gotta love this vb community.

                      Relax. VB programmers are a bit... "discriminated" here, but a lot of good programmers here have this "dark past". VB.Net have so much changes that is considered a new language. VB6 is so obsolete that MS finalized the support years ago. Follow the link that I provided above, download Visual Basic Express 2005 and have fun! Sorry my tone in the previous post, but a good start in asking something is learning how to ask. ;)


                      Engaged in the learning of English grammar. ;)
                      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                      Thanks for the help. Hopefully I take to it, easily.

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                        Stigmurder wrote:

                        Gotta love this vb community.

                        Yeah shocking. :rolleyes: If you wanted serious answers why didn't you post in the VB.NET forum? :rolleyes: I would make more comments but I am getting a headache from rolling my eyes after each one.

                        led mike

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                        Stigmurder
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                        I guess I didn't notice where I posted this, sorry for that and your headache. any Mod want to move this thread to vb.net?

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                          Here's a short list of instant wins in VB.Net[^] that might persuade you to give it a go...

                          '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                          See that was helpful. much thanks.

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                          • S Stigmurder

                            I've been reading over alot of .NET code(VB) and so far I don't like what I see. I hate being behind in times but I'm wondering is it worth switching from vb6 to .NET? Whats so good about .NET? P.S. if you're just going to be a jackass then please don't answer. I would like some serious replies. -- modified at 16:00 Wednesday 28th March, 2007

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                            Stigmurder wrote:

                            I hate being behind in times but I'm wondering is it worth switching from vb6 to .NET? Whats so good about .NET?

                            It's slightly less of a heap of bizarre syntax bolt-ons, compatibility hacks, and hidden sub-systems than VB6. More importantly, once you have your code in VB.NET you can convert it fairly easily to C#, which will demonstrate clearly just how twisted the VB stuff was. And by the way - this is a serious reply. I used BASIC then QBasic for years. Before starting my current job, i had roughly equal amounts of C++ and VB experience. And of the four languages i use every week, VB.NET is currently at #2 or #3. VB (with or without .NET... but especially without) is a hack-job, pure and simple. I respect folks that have become bona-fide experts in the usage and idiosyncrasies of it, the same way i respect the folks who write DHTML flight simulators, or statistical analysis in SQL... but it's still a mess, and the sooner you toss it to the curb the better off you'll be.

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                            • S Stigmurder

                              I've been reading over alot of .NET code(VB) and so far I don't like what I see. I hate being behind in times but I'm wondering is it worth switching from vb6 to .NET? Whats so good about .NET? P.S. if you're just going to be a jackass then please don't answer. I would like some serious replies. -- modified at 16:00 Wednesday 28th March, 2007

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                              I'm going to run and hide from this thread... But being seriously, it's amazing what more you can do with .NET. You really can't cover it in a post. A lot of people here hate VB period (I am not a huge fan but I don't hate it) and might say that vb.net isn't going to do anything, try c#.net etc. If nothing else, it's just plain cool to play around with!

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                                I'm going to run and hide from this thread... But being seriously, it's amazing what more you can do with .NET. You really can't cover it in a post. A lot of people here hate VB period (I am not a huge fan but I don't hate it) and might say that vb.net isn't going to do anything, try c#.net etc. If nothing else, it's just plain cool to play around with!

                                _________________________________________ You can't fix stupid, but you can medicate crazy.

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                                Stigmurder
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                                hate vb? geez. I guess even programmers can be stuck up.

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                                  hate vb? geez. I guess even programmers can be stuck up.

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                                  Stigmurder wrote:

                                  I guess even programmers can be stuck up.

                                  It's not about being stuck-up. Well, ok, that's some of it - if you've ever worked with someone who was stuck on a single tool and bad at using even that, then you're gonna take a rather dim view of it. Prejudice has its purpose... But yeah, personally it isn't about "hating on the VBer" so much as it's something i've used and don't care for. I also hate mucking out cattle pens, but don't think i'm "too good" for it (i'd just rather do almost anything else...)

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                                  • S Stigmurder

                                    It just seems like more work to write a prog in .NET. But then again I really don't know. Thats why I'm asking. I'll go look for some examples.

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                                    Stigmurder wrote:

                                    It just seems like more work to write a prog in .NET.

                                    I think it depends. There's lots of things that are much easier to do in .NET, until you want to do something the .NET API doesn't support, then it's a PITA. Of course, I get the impression you're probably looking at code that the designer generated, which of course looks gadawful. Marc

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                                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                    • S Stigmurder

                                      I've been reading over alot of .NET code(VB) and so far I don't like what I see. I hate being behind in times but I'm wondering is it worth switching from vb6 to .NET? Whats so good about .NET? P.S. if you're just going to be a jackass then please don't answer. I would like some serious replies. -- modified at 16:00 Wednesday 28th March, 2007

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                                      Eric Goedhart
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                                      Hi. I never seriously worked with visual basic so I cant say that this or that is better compared to that language but the thing I can say about C#.Net is that it works good and covers a wide area of development from stand alone desktop applications to asp.net driven websites, that (if made smaller) are perfect to be viewed on a mobile phone, or desktop applications that function (with some work) on mobile PDA devices etc. etc. So I would say that the great diversity of options you have as an developer are great. When you are happy as an hobby programmer with writing your programs in Visual Basic there is nothing wrong with working with that development software, but when you ask what's so good about .Net I personally think this is the answer I have to your question.

                                      With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart Interbritt

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                                      • S Stigmurder

                                        You know I asked this question with the intent on getting some helpful answers, not to get flamed. Gotta love this vb community.

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                                        Kevin McFarlane
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                                        If you're a VB developer you should be surprised not to get flamed. Many here can't resist taking pot shots at it.

                                        Kevin

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                                        • S Stigmurder

                                          I've been reading over alot of .NET code(VB) and so far I don't like what I see. I hate being behind in times but I'm wondering is it worth switching from vb6 to .NET? Whats so good about .NET? P.S. if you're just going to be a jackass then please don't answer. I would like some serious replies. -- modified at 16:00 Wednesday 28th March, 2007

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                                          Move to VB.NET or C#. You get a better base class library (the .NET framework), a better framework overall, and a better language, and a better IDE and tools. There's still plenty of VB6 out thre but the future is VB.NET

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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