You are FAT not big
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I hate it when FAT people call themselves big. That is a complete abuse of a positive word like big plus they are only kidding themselves and taking a step back by not accepting their obesity and doing something about it ... phew! ... thanks for reading!
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My mother had it in for me when I was young and said I am not fat, just pleasingly plump.... Got to love mother, right?
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Some fat bastards voted you down. ;P To be fair it's no one else's business if they choose to be overweight and I could care less either way, but I do agree that self delusion is never a healthy thing.
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You can't pass a moral judgement on someone because of their weight. For that matter you shouldn't be passing judgement at all. You're not without flaws. You sound like an ass making this post.
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You don't need to either hate it or love it, just accept it. People who have obesity often have a problem accepting it, it's part of the disease. Have you considered that people who are obese may not like being obese?
Like it or not, it's more accurate to call an obese person fat than to call them big. Using a euphemism for a condition that a person has no control over is just being nice, using it in reference to your own personally chosen of your own free will clinical condition is just living in a fantasy world that is not helping yourself at all.
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Some people can't do anything about it. Yes, it is a health hazard, but sometimes it's physical and the person can't fix it. You think it's just a matter of eating less, but it's not... I know obese people who barely eat. Their bodies are super-efficient, able to extract every iota of energy from everything they eat, whereas a person like me wastes a lot, but I stay thin. My body isn't saving up for a rainy day... whatever I don't need now is wasted. People are not always that lucky. Whatever the situation is, it's not as simple as what you said, and I think you're being extremely inconsiderate. What if told you I don't think the right word is "bald"... I think the right word is "ugly"... that's what you're saying, and if you want fat people to use a derogatory term when referring to themselves, you're asking way too much. Fat and large are the same damn thing and if people want to choose a word with less stigma, who the hell are you to tell them otherwise? This should be in the soapbox, with all the other worthless, harmful, and high-and-mighty opinions that don't mean crap in the real world.
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think it's just a matter of eating less, but it's not... I know obese people who barely eat
That's a myth and incorrect. Many people who claim this have been studied and found that they eat far too many calories like any other fat people, they just deny it or seem to do it subconsciously.
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That could be used as a polite way of saying someone's fat :-)
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I hate it when FAT people call themselves big. That is a complete abuse of a positive word like big plus they are only kidding themselves and taking a step back by not accepting their obesity and doing something about it ... phew! ... thanks for reading!
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Small is big, and Big is small.
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This is the problem ... right here ... what you said you freaking hypocritical moron. On one hand you are ok with FAT people lying and judging themselves as big when they are actually FAT but when another person makes a correction it becomes a wrong judgement ... Good heavens! ... quit symphathizing with these FAT ASSES and let them make themselves useful. Oh ... and btw I don't really care where this post is put Soapbox or FATbox or whatever else you escapists (of reality) want to call it.
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No, I agree that some fat people need to face it. But... what's the point of posting this on web site about computer programming? I have the "fat gene" if you will but I take responsibility for my own health. I work out 5 days a week to stay in shape. It is just that you sound as if you are hating on people and I don't like it.
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I hate it when FAT people call themselves big. That is a complete abuse of a positive word like big plus they are only kidding themselves and taking a step back by not accepting their obesity and doing something about it ... phew! ... thanks for reading!
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S76 wrote:
FAT people call themselves big
Potato potahto. It's not any worse than me calling you a dick instead of richard.
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No, I agree that some fat people need to face it. But... what's the point of posting this on web site about computer programming? I have the "fat gene" if you will but I take responsibility for my own health. I work out 5 days a week to stay in shape. It is just that you sound as if you are hating on people and I don't like it.
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I hate it when FAT people call themselves big. That is a complete abuse of a positive word like big plus they are only kidding themselves and taking a step back by not accepting their obesity and doing something about it ... phew! ... thanks for reading!
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I am big AND fat, but not obese. I am just shorter that 6'1" and 25 lbs. overweight (consisting almost entirely of fat), but luckily, there isn't a great deal of visible difference between now-me and then-me when I was only 185 lbs. (as long as I am dressed). So rather than starve myself and exercise, I choose to stay fat. Am I offended when someone suggests (which they never do, due to the fact that I don't really look fat) that I am fat? No, I agree. But there is no associated guilt for me, having chosen my 'condition'. Would I like to be lighter? Sure, but not badly enough to make it happen. So what? Well, like me, obese people are so because they got there, OR (||) stay there by their own volition. Does that make them detestable? Not to me. But I agree, they are fat. I am fat. Some skinny people are phat. If you cross the pond, are you trans-fat? Too many people no longer recognize the truth, having convinced themselves that truth is relative (most of my relatives are not fat). But truth is truth, ignore it at your peril. Fat folks know they are fat, but unless you are wholey in that realm, you can't say so. If you're not extremely well tanned you can't use the 'n' word even in conversation about the 'n' word, but they can, and do, use it referencing themselves. As long as I am making enemies, those who CHOOSE to behave cross-gendered refer to themselves lovingly using the same 'f' word the Brits use for cigarettes. But can you and I speak like that in 'polite' company? Not any more. So, where does that leave us? Unfortunately, for some, we must live filled with fear for what some people will think or say, even though we don't respect those people anyway. So why do we fear them? Because we gave them the power to make our decisions for us. It wouldn't be polite to ignore them now, would it? m_fatBoy
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S76 wrote:
FAT people call themselves big
Potato potahto. It's not any worse than me calling you a dick instead of richard.
"If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball."
Actually, you probably ought to stick with Richard. I think he's a dickless little troll, myself.
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Jasmine2501 wrote:
think it's just a matter of eating less, but it's not... I know obese people who barely eat
That's a myth and incorrect. Many people who claim this have been studied and found that they eat far too many calories like any other fat people, they just deny it or seem to do it subconsciously.
Interesting. Do you have a citation for that? It also doesn't change the fact that using derogatory terms with people is insulting and rude... no matter how they got that way and even if it's totally their own fault.
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hmm ... it's symphathizers like you that are the cause of obesity in this (US) country. Quit patronizing them you idiot ... what they need is to realize that no one is born fat and that being fat isn't an irreplaceble disease that hits only America (Geez!) ... THEY NEED TO GET IN SHAPE FOR THEIR OWN GOOD ... and that means to do whatever it takes ... and the first step is to accept that they are FAT not big.
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Actually, I contend that it's jerks like you are the root cause of many problems in this country. If somebody wants to kill themselves with unhealthy living, who the hell are you to tell them otherwise? And don't hand me the line of BS about you or "the taxpayers" having to pay for it. You don't. I've really had it with people who think they know what's good for everyone else and want to force them to do it. Usually these people are exactly like you, full up to the ears with their own problems and completely oblivious about it. And if you're going to go around being rude to people like this, then this is the reaction your should expect... people won't want to be around you. Get with reality dude, you're being a jerk, and you have every right to be that way, but you should accept the fact that you are going to be a social misfit wherever you go with that attitude. And no matter what you call it, obesity is that person's own business. I dare you to go around the office on Monday and say the following to everyone who you think "needs" it: "Hey you know you're FAT, not big, and you need get off your ass and work out a bit. You know that's going to kill you, right?" And see how fast you lose your job. If believe so strongly that you are right... put your money where your mouth is. And where do you draw the line anyway, 175?, 250?, 300?... or is it just YOUR call?
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I am big AND fat, but not obese. I am just shorter that 6'1" and 25 lbs. overweight (consisting almost entirely of fat), but luckily, there isn't a great deal of visible difference between now-me and then-me when I was only 185 lbs. (as long as I am dressed). So rather than starve myself and exercise, I choose to stay fat. Am I offended when someone suggests (which they never do, due to the fact that I don't really look fat) that I am fat? No, I agree. But there is no associated guilt for me, having chosen my 'condition'. Would I like to be lighter? Sure, but not badly enough to make it happen. So what? Well, like me, obese people are so because they got there, OR (||) stay there by their own volition. Does that make them detestable? Not to me. But I agree, they are fat. I am fat. Some skinny people are phat. If you cross the pond, are you trans-fat? Too many people no longer recognize the truth, having convinced themselves that truth is relative (most of my relatives are not fat). But truth is truth, ignore it at your peril. Fat folks know they are fat, but unless you are wholey in that realm, you can't say so. If you're not extremely well tanned you can't use the 'n' word even in conversation about the 'n' word, but they can, and do, use it referencing themselves. As long as I am making enemies, those who CHOOSE to behave cross-gendered refer to themselves lovingly using the same 'f' word the Brits use for cigarettes. But can you and I speak like that in 'polite' company? Not any more. So, where does that leave us? Unfortunately, for some, we must live filled with fear for what some people will think or say, even though we don't respect those people anyway. So why do we fear them? Because we gave them the power to make our decisions for us. It wouldn't be polite to ignore them now, would it? m_fatBoy
Yes! Yes! You might like this... about using the word "tranny" for girls like me :) http://www.smoothjazzy.com/tranny_the_word.html[^] As a skinny person, I'm thoroughly offended by this posting. I hope I don't see him at MIX... or maybe I hope I do... <evil laugh>
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Interesting. Do you have a citation for that? It also doesn't change the fact that using derogatory terms with people is insulting and rude... no matter how they got that way and even if it's totally their own fault.
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http://www.smoothjazzy.com/ - see the "Programming" section for freeware tools and articles.The sticking point for me is when did fat become a derogatory term? It's descriptive like tall or short or thin etc. Forgive me if I'm not willing to sacrifice useful words in the english language to the latest fad of newspeak political correctness. If we keep up at this rate we'll all be limited to a 500 word vocabularly.
Jasmine2501 wrote:
Do you have a citation for that?
Aside from the entire body of scientific evidence and all logic and reality? :rolleyes:
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The sticking point for me is when did fat become a derogatory term? It's descriptive like tall or short or thin etc. Forgive me if I'm not willing to sacrifice useful words in the english language to the latest fad of newspeak political correctness. If we keep up at this rate we'll all be limited to a 500 word vocabularly.
Jasmine2501 wrote:
Do you have a citation for that?
Aside from the entire body of scientific evidence and all logic and reality? :rolleyes:
That's why I pointed to my web site article. It's about intent, and this person't intent is to cause hurt by using the word, in a feeble attempt to motivate people. And you can't cite the entire body of scientific evidence. Science doesn't work that way... we want measurements, documentation, replication of results, etc... If there is such a thing in this case, you should be able to point to it. I don't doubt you, but I've never heard of such a study, and I keep up on medical research. I am genuinely interested in reading the study, not calling your bluff.
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Small is big, and Big is small.
... and that easily qualifies for nonsense ... btw I voted your comment a 1.
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