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  • P Paul Selormey

    What is your view on Second Life[^] as a developer platform or as a source of entertainment? BTW, do you have a second life? I am still considering the options, but hope to join soon. My attention was drawn to it by a Japanese business TV channel, with some spending as much as 5,000,000 Yen to buy the virtual lands. The viewer code is being released as open source. To me the second life seems to be what MS wanted to do with WPF-Web but got locked up by their own Windows-only technology DirectX. Can we have a common CP prefix username to identify ourselves in the second life virtual space? ;) Best regards, Paul.

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    Michael Dunn
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    Visual Studio is my second life ;)

    --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Ford, what's this fish doing in my ear?

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      Visual Studio is my second life ;)

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      l a u r e n
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      :laugh:

      "there is no spoon" {me}

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      • M Michael Dunn

        Visual Studio is my second life ;)

        --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Ford, what's this fish doing in my ear?

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        Anton Afanasyev
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        Michael Dunn wrote:

        Visual Studio is my life;)

        fixed that for ya.


        :badger:

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        • D Dario Solera

          I just don't give a shit on all these online games. :suss: Technically, though, I think they are amazing systems. They have to manage thousand of concurrent users, interacting with each other and modifying the environment. Cool.

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          Paul Selormey
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          I do not play games or own any of those game console. The Second Life seems to be beyond the gaming, it is becoming a "another" world for business, that is why it was on that respected Japanese business TV Channel (WBS - World Business Satellite). The documentary also shows many seminars here in Japan, where many businesses are exploring the business opportunities. There was also a lady (home)programmer who is also trying to make the most of it. It was portrayed as the next generation Internet. I have visited their developer site and they are doing some interesting work, with some cool 3D graphics on Gecko engine. Success they say favors the prepared mind :-D Best regards, Paul.

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            Visual Studio is my second life ;)

            --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Ford, what's this fish doing in my ear?

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            Paul Selormey
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            That makes it easy, the viewer sources are compiled on Windows with the Visual Studio ;P Best regards, Paul.

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            • P Paul Selormey

              What is your view on Second Life[^] as a developer platform or as a source of entertainment? BTW, do you have a second life? I am still considering the options, but hope to join soon. My attention was drawn to it by a Japanese business TV channel, with some spending as much as 5,000,000 Yen to buy the virtual lands. The viewer code is being released as open source. To me the second life seems to be what MS wanted to do with WPF-Web but got locked up by their own Windows-only technology DirectX. Can we have a common CP prefix username to identify ourselves in the second life virtual space? ;) Best regards, Paul.

              Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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              peterchen
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              The most outstanding about second life is: you lose out to the fatally addicted and the endollared. Socially, it's very interesting however. I'd like to get an, ah, research grant, to figure out, uh, things about err, people on this Second Life thing, yessire.

              Paul Selormey wrote:

              Can we have a common CP prefix username to identify ourselves in the second life virtual space?

              I guess you could make a wrist tattoo or something for that...


              We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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              • P peterchen

                The most outstanding about second life is: you lose out to the fatally addicted and the endollared. Socially, it's very interesting however. I'd like to get an, ah, research grant, to figure out, uh, things about err, people on this Second Life thing, yessire.

                Paul Selormey wrote:

                Can we have a common CP prefix username to identify ourselves in the second life virtual space?

                I guess you could make a wrist tattoo or something for that...


                We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                Paul Selormey
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                peterchen wrote:

                I guess you could make a wrist tattoo or something for that...

                Are you an artist? :-D Best regards, Paul.

                Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                • P Paul Selormey

                  What is your view on Second Life[^] as a developer platform or as a source of entertainment? BTW, do you have a second life? I am still considering the options, but hope to join soon. My attention was drawn to it by a Japanese business TV channel, with some spending as much as 5,000,000 Yen to buy the virtual lands. The viewer code is being released as open source. To me the second life seems to be what MS wanted to do with WPF-Web but got locked up by their own Windows-only technology DirectX. Can we have a common CP prefix username to identify ourselves in the second life virtual space? ;) Best regards, Paul.

                  Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                  Russell Jones
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                  i've got an avatar but never really got very into it. I've spent a bit of time learning some controls and wandered round a bit. It is possible to join societies in the universe so a virtual CP community would be possible but i guess it depends on how many people would want to join and whether you can be a member of more than 1 society. I've played a bit of entropia universe which is more of a game than SL but people tend to join societies based on their in game interests rather than in world friendships. I can still use teamspeak to chat to my mates without needing to be in the same society. The coding aspect of SL is very interesting but i really haven't had time to get in to it Russell

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                  • M Michael Dunn

                    Visual Studio is my second life ;)

                    --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Ford, what's this fish doing in my ear?

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Commiserations

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                    • P Paul Selormey

                      What is your view on Second Life[^] as a developer platform or as a source of entertainment? BTW, do you have a second life? I am still considering the options, but hope to join soon. My attention was drawn to it by a Japanese business TV channel, with some spending as much as 5,000,000 Yen to buy the virtual lands. The viewer code is being released as open source. To me the second life seems to be what MS wanted to do with WPF-Web but got locked up by their own Windows-only technology DirectX. Can we have a common CP prefix username to identify ourselves in the second life virtual space? ;) Best regards, Paul.

                      Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                      J4amieC
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                      www.getafirstlife.com

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                      • P Paul Selormey

                        What is your view on Second Life[^] as a developer platform or as a source of entertainment? BTW, do you have a second life? I am still considering the options, but hope to join soon. My attention was drawn to it by a Japanese business TV channel, with some spending as much as 5,000,000 Yen to buy the virtual lands. The viewer code is being released as open source. To me the second life seems to be what MS wanted to do with WPF-Web but got locked up by their own Windows-only technology DirectX. Can we have a common CP prefix username to identify ourselves in the second life virtual space? ;) Best regards, Paul.

                        Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                        ednrgc
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                        Paul Selormey wrote:

                        5,000,000

                        Isn't that like $15?

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                          Paul Selormey wrote:

                          5,000,000

                          Isn't that like $15?

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                          Sean McKinnon
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                          5 million Japanese yen = 42 251.1408 U.S. dollars (from Google)

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                          • S Sean McKinnon

                            5 million Japanese yen = 42 251.1408 U.S. dollars (from Google)

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                            ednrgc
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                            Did you miss the joke icon?

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                              Paul Selormey wrote:

                              5,000,000

                              Isn't that like $15?

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                              ClockMeister
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                              5,000,000 yen is approximately $50,000 and I can't imagine anything more STUPID than someone buying VIRTUAL (read, non-existant) real-estate online for a nickel, let alone $50K. What a waste. The ONLY smart people in those deals are the people who put those VR games online and they're laughing their asses off all the way to the bank. -CB :wtf:

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                                Did you miss the joke icon?

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                                Sean McKinnon
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                                ednrgc wrote:

                                Did you miss the joke icon?

                                Yup! That's way too subtle for this early in the morning after an hour's commute on icy roads... Cheers - Sean

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                                  5,000,000 yen is approximately $50,000 and I can't imagine anything more STUPID than someone buying VIRTUAL (read, non-existant) real-estate online for a nickel, let alone $50K. What a waste. The ONLY smart people in those deals are the people who put those VR games online and they're laughing their asses off all the way to the bank. -CB :wtf:

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                                  Yes and no; it'll be interesting to look back in 10 years and see if this thing is still going. If it is, there are going to be the people who make claims about how stupid it is and 10 years later wish they had gotten in on it. Or if it dies in a year, then the people who threw in 50K might be upset. But for now, it's been going strong for a few years and shows only signs of growth. Besides individual people using it, universities are using it for training, and now employers are using it - definitely growth. Especially now that some lady has made 1,000,000 dollars through the game! ~The Chad

                                  Respectfully, Chad Johnson Tools Programmer

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                                    Yes and no; it'll be interesting to look back in 10 years and see if this thing is still going. If it is, there are going to be the people who make claims about how stupid it is and 10 years later wish they had gotten in on it. Or if it dies in a year, then the people who threw in 50K might be upset. But for now, it's been going strong for a few years and shows only signs of growth. Besides individual people using it, universities are using it for training, and now employers are using it - definitely growth. Especially now that some lady has made 1,000,000 dollars through the game! ~The Chad

                                    Respectfully, Chad Johnson Tools Programmer

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                                    ClockMeister
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                                    Hi Chad, I don't have a problem with online games per-se, it just falls into that same area where I place gambling. If someone blows their money on lottery tickets and gambling then doesn't pay their bills then there's a serious problem. I know at least one individual who has gotten addicted to this. He is constantly blowing his money in those games and is aggrivating his entire family who has reached the point where they refuse to "help" him any more. The man is in his 40's too. Unreal. 10 years from now? Yeah, they'll still exist - along with an entire self-help industry that feeds off it. There's already "Online Gamers Anonymous" organizations to help people escape from the addiction of this latest money-sucking phenomenon. Maybe ONE lady made a million bucks off it - but one million others lost money playing the same game. IMHO online gaming is just another "poor man's tax". Best Regards, -CB

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                                      Hi Chad, I don't have a problem with online games per-se, it just falls into that same area where I place gambling. If someone blows their money on lottery tickets and gambling then doesn't pay their bills then there's a serious problem. I know at least one individual who has gotten addicted to this. He is constantly blowing his money in those games and is aggrivating his entire family who has reached the point where they refuse to "help" him any more. The man is in his 40's too. Unreal. 10 years from now? Yeah, they'll still exist - along with an entire self-help industry that feeds off it. There's already "Online Gamers Anonymous" organizations to help people escape from the addiction of this latest money-sucking phenomenon. Maybe ONE lady made a million bucks off it - but one million others lost money playing the same game. IMHO online gaming is just another "poor man's tax". Best Regards, -CB

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                                      brainiac2005
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                                      Hey CodeBubba, Oh, I know what you mean. I'm not a big fan of it when people get addicted to the online games. I remember when I got pretty big into my Nintendo 64 system - my brother and I would sneak in time to play because our Mom tried to limit us to 1-hour a day, but of course that can't happen. You just can't get far enough in the game like that. I have friends that have gotten into this World of Warcraft thing and are just losing their lives in it. I agree with you, but I also think the opportunity is amazing, and if you aren't spending 8 hours a day on it - it actually is a great time. I just joined SecondLife last week, and played one time since then. It was a pretty good time and a neat way to get connected around the world. ~The Chad

                                      Respectfully, Chad Johnson Tools Programmer

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                                        Hey CodeBubba, Oh, I know what you mean. I'm not a big fan of it when people get addicted to the online games. I remember when I got pretty big into my Nintendo 64 system - my brother and I would sneak in time to play because our Mom tried to limit us to 1-hour a day, but of course that can't happen. You just can't get far enough in the game like that. I have friends that have gotten into this World of Warcraft thing and are just losing their lives in it. I agree with you, but I also think the opportunity is amazing, and if you aren't spending 8 hours a day on it - it actually is a great time. I just joined SecondLife last week, and played one time since then. It was a pretty good time and a neat way to get connected around the world. ~The Chad

                                        Respectfully, Chad Johnson Tools Programmer

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                                        ClockMeister
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                                        Hey Chad, No doubt about it - you can get addicted to just about anything. My particular addition was software development - made a living out of it. There was a point, though, where I was addicted to even it - to the point where I didn't do anything else; then it became unhealthy. I've been doing this since the late 70's and still enjoy it. I make a good living at it, too ... I just don't go at it until 3am anymore. I played with the 2nd-Life thing for a short time, enough to see that it was interesting (though even on my high-bandwidth connection it was extremely slow). I can certainly understand the fun of "vicariously" meeting people from around the world. I ran into a guy from France right away and we chatted for a bit. Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to paint all simulation software with a broad brush - heck I've been using Microsoft Flight Simulator ever since version 1.0. However my use for it now is to keep myself proficient when I can't actually afford to get into the cockpit. I play "Sim City" on my machine too - but even with it I have to be awfully careful I don't waste away too much time with it. Online gaming is like any other leisure activity, IMO. As long as you keep it in its place it's fine - however there are a great many people who just can't seem to do that. In the case of 2nd Life and WarCraft it just flat goes overboard. I don't quite see middle ground there - people that get into it get IN to it. That's why I tossed 2nd Life off my box; after all these years I realized I was looking a potential "o-holic" syndrome right in my face. Just ain't going there. Got better things to do. Nice chattin' with ya. -CB :)

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                                        • P peterchen

                                          The most outstanding about second life is: you lose out to the fatally addicted and the endollared. Socially, it's very interesting however. I'd like to get an, ah, research grant, to figure out, uh, things about err, people on this Second Life thing, yessire.

                                          Paul Selormey wrote:

                                          Can we have a common CP prefix username to identify ourselves in the second life virtual space?

                                          I guess you could make a wrist tattoo or something for that...


                                          We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                                          My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                                          You'd be more likely to get a multimillion-dollar federal grant to study ways in which the transfer of income in Second Life could be taxed in First Life ... :|

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