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What a bike! Quad Core! [modified]

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    Rocky Moore
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    The new Intel Bike sounds pretty cool! http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1287553.php/Intel%92s_Quad-Core_chips_get_embedded%85_in_a_chopper[^] With the number of cores rising, I wonder if we will see a 64 or 128 core chip. Would be interesting to see how well Vista handles an eight core chip (how much work would really be shared amoung the cores). -- modified at 11:52 Thursday 5th April, 2007 More links: http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20070403corp.htm?iid=search[^] http://download.intel.com/pressroom/images/Chopper_with_Callouts.jpg[^]

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      The new Intel Bike sounds pretty cool! http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1287553.php/Intel%92s_Quad-Core_chips_get_embedded%85_in_a_chopper[^] With the number of cores rising, I wonder if we will see a 64 or 128 core chip. Would be interesting to see how well Vista handles an eight core chip (how much work would really be shared amoung the cores). -- modified at 11:52 Thursday 5th April, 2007 More links: http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20070403corp.htm?iid=search[^] http://download.intel.com/pressroom/images/Chopper_with_Callouts.jpg[^]

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      Maximilien
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      Apple released an 8 core MacPro; Microsoft and a hardware vendor need to start advertising some systems like that.


      Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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        The new Intel Bike sounds pretty cool! http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1287553.php/Intel%92s_Quad-Core_chips_get_embedded%85_in_a_chopper[^] With the number of cores rising, I wonder if we will see a 64 or 128 core chip. Would be interesting to see how well Vista handles an eight core chip (how much work would really be shared amoung the cores). -- modified at 11:52 Thursday 5th April, 2007 More links: http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20070403corp.htm?iid=search[^] http://download.intel.com/pressroom/images/Chopper_with_Callouts.jpg[^]

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        I can state with 4 cores vista runs all 4 cores with the same process %. Meaning it uses all 4 cores equal.. This is just what i have noticed

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          I can state with 4 cores vista runs all 4 cores with the same process %. Meaning it uses all 4 cores equal.. This is just what i have noticed

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          Why would Windows completely load up one core and let the rest just sit their doing no-ops? The same happens with dual cores unless you start doing single-threaded intensive stuff.

          Matt Newman

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            Why would Windows completely load up one core and let the rest just sit their doing no-ops? The same happens with dual cores unless you start doing single-threaded intensive stuff.

            Matt Newman

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            With windows xp sp2 it would only use 1 core out of the 4. I could tell this because core 1 was at about 13% idol and the other 3 cores were at 0 or 1% idol.

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              With windows xp sp2 it would only use 1 core out of the 4. I could tell this because core 1 was at about 13% idol and the other 3 cores were at 0 or 1% idol.

              Chris Calzaretta

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              Andy Brummer
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              Did you ever have 4 maxed out threads? XP and I'm sure vista would both show 100% on all 4 cores. Windows will tend to preferentially schedule the same thread on the same core even though it will run it on any available core when it gets it's chance to execute. On XP the idle background tasks might have been running on a fewer number of threads giving the results you see, while Vista might have background tasks on more threads, or spread them out a little differently.


              I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                The new Intel Bike sounds pretty cool! http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1287553.php/Intel%92s_Quad-Core_chips_get_embedded%85_in_a_chopper[^] With the number of cores rising, I wonder if we will see a 64 or 128 core chip. Would be interesting to see how well Vista handles an eight core chip (how much work would really be shared amoung the cores). -- modified at 11:52 Thursday 5th April, 2007 More links: http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20070403corp.htm?iid=search[^] http://download.intel.com/pressroom/images/Chopper_with_Callouts.jpg[^]

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                Rocky Moore wrote:

                With the number of cores rising, I wonder if we will see a 64 or 128 core chip.

                Eventually, we will see everything, or our children, or our children's children. However, a 64core chip is already in prototype stage, though it is many years before it makes production. It is easy to build a prototype, you don't have to worry about size or cooling because you can fit it in a custom board the size of a wall if necessary, and cool it with liquid nitrogen if that is what it takes.

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                (how much work would really be shared amoung the cores).

                that is up to us as programmers, not the OS. The operating system, can, and does, round-robin threads and processes as accrued by the programmer/user. If you want YOUR application to be split across multiple cores, stop waiting for MS and just do it. :) We have the power to use 8 cores, have done so, years ago I started with 16 cores, now I am almost back to that again. In the end it is up to us, not a magical bullet from MS or Intel, no matter how long we put off the issue of parallel logic, it eventually reaches us. A generic, works for everyone, solution will always be the least efficient since it is optimized for nothing and supports everything. If we get it, we will only complain about its inefficiency as programmers, yet it is within our own power to learn parallel now and write it right the first time. :-D

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                  The new Intel Bike sounds pretty cool! http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1287553.php/Intel%92s_Quad-Core_chips_get_embedded%85_in_a_chopper[^] With the number of cores rising, I wonder if we will see a 64 or 128 core chip. Would be interesting to see how well Vista handles an eight core chip (how much work would really be shared amoung the cores). -- modified at 11:52 Thursday 5th April, 2007 More links: http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20070403corp.htm?iid=search[^] http://download.intel.com/pressroom/images/Chopper_with_Callouts.jpg[^]

                  Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: OpenID - More thought - Great system if.. Latest Tech Blog Post: Frustrated Total Internal Reflection-FTIR = Cool!

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                  I trundled down to ESC on Tuesday and found out the bike unveiling was yesterday. :( Didn't see the Tuttles but they wouldn't know if chip if it jumped up and bit them. Missed big Al's keynote, too. But I got a Parallax Propeller development kit though. :-D

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                    I trundled down to ESC on Tuesday and found out the bike unveiling was yesterday. :( Didn't see the Tuttles but they wouldn't know if chip if it jumped up and bit them. Missed big Al's keynote, too. But I got a Parallax Propeller development kit though. :-D

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                    :)

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