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  • H hiral_shah

    Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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    Ray Kinsella
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    Your boss is a tool, and is blaming you because he didn't have a proper QA testing. Blame the developer is too easy an opt out for most bosses. Ignore your boss, because he wouldn't be able to implement the interface himself.

    Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch

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    • H hiral_shah

      Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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      NormDroid
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      Looks like you're being used as a scapey typeof goat.

      .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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      • N Nic Rowan

        hiral_shah wrote:

        Whose fault it is?

        The testers. I hate finger pointing. It should be "How can we get this problem sorted out best?" not "Who's fault is it?"


        Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis. I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.


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        Well said


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        • H hiral_shah

          Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

          -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Does it matter whose fault it is? As others have said, this is not a helpful attitude. What you need to do now is work out what the problem actually is. I have seen this type of situation many times where the problem boils down to differences in hardware configuration (e.g. using multi-processor machines in live and single-processor in dev/testing), or the application hasn't been properly stress tested.

          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            Does it matter whose fault it is? As others have said, this is not a helpful attitude. What you need to do now is work out what the problem actually is. I have seen this type of situation many times where the problem boils down to differences in hardware configuration (e.g. using multi-processor machines in live and single-processor in dev/testing), or the application hasn't been properly stress tested.

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            hiral_shah
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            Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

            What you need to do now is work out what the problem actually is

            But he told me that I should not touch that application now. :(

            -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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            • H hiral_shah

              Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

              What you need to do now is work out what the problem actually is

              But he told me that I should not touch that application now. :(

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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              Sathesh Sakthivel
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              hiral_shah wrote:

              I should not touch that application now

              Then how you will solve the problem.

              Regards, Satips.

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                hiral_shah wrote:

                Whose fault it is?

                The testers. I hate finger pointing. It should be "How can we get this problem sorted out best?" not "Who's fault is it?"


                Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis. I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.


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                Sathesh Sakthivel
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                Absolutely.

                Regards, Satips.

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                • H hiral_shah

                  Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

                  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                  Sathesh Sakthivel
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                  Did the QA Dept tested it after Completed the Application.

                  Regards, Satips.

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                  • H hiral_shah

                    Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

                    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                    Chris Austin
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                    Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

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                    • C Chris Austin

                      Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

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                      Sathesh Sakthivel
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                      Chris Austin wrote:

                      Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

                      Good Idea.

                      Regards, Satips.

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                      • S Sathesh Sakthivel

                        hiral_shah wrote:

                        I should not touch that application now

                        Then how you will solve the problem.

                        Regards, Satips.

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                        hiral_shah
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                        I don't know what's the plan in his mind. But I checked it at local and its working fine

                        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                        • S Sathesh Sakthivel

                          Did the QA Dept tested it after Completed the Application.

                          Regards, Satips.

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                          hiral_shah
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                          here we don't have different department of QA over here. Just me my boss and HR Manager have tested that

                          -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                          • H hiral_shah

                            I don't know what's the plan in his mind. But I checked it at local and its working fine

                            -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                            Sathesh Sakthivel
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                            Did the testing dept tested the Application before Uploading.

                            Regards, Satips.

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                            • H hiral_shah

                              Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                              What you need to do now is work out what the problem actually is

                              But he told me that I should not touch that application now. :(

                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              So how does he expect you to grow as a developer? Everybody makes mistakes. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who don't do anything at all. The only way to grow is to learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of others. It's called experience. That means that he really needs to give you the chance to find out what's wrong, and see what could have been done differently. The best bosses won't ask you "What have you done wrong?". Instead they'll ask you "What have you learned, and what would you do differently?".

                              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                              • C Chris Austin

                                Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

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                                hiral_shah
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                                But what if he is not allowing me to even touch that application. I didn't see that error from my eyes. My boss told me that and I can't do the testing because there are some entries in the database having auto increment field so he may come to know that I did something with the application.

                                -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                • H hiral_shah

                                  here we don't have different department of QA over here. Just me my boss and HR Manager have tested that

                                  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                  Sathesh Sakthivel
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                                  No QA.

                                  Regards, Satips.

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                                  • H hiral_shah

                                    But what if he is not allowing me to even touch that application. I didn't see that error from my eyes. My boss told me that and I can't do the testing because there are some entries in the database having auto increment field so he may come to know that I did something with the application.

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                                    Sathesh Sakthivel
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                                    Dont worry. Take this as a Lesson. Try to correct it in the Forth Coming Application.

                                    Regards, Satips.

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                                    • H hiral_shah

                                      Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

                                      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                      Aamir Butt
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                                      Just tell me, have u got testers let alone a proper QA department? If your organization hasnt got one, then you people are in serious trouble.

                                      "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"

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                                      • C Chris Austin

                                        Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

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                                        hiral_shah
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                                        We Tested the application before uploading and also after upload it. It was working fine in both ways but I don't know what is the exact error occuring and why?

                                        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                        • H hiral_shah

                                          But what if he is not allowing me to even touch that application. I didn't see that error from my eyes. My boss told me that and I can't do the testing because there are some entries in the database having auto increment field so he may come to know that I did something with the application.

                                          -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                          Chris Austin
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                                          You still have the code right? You can always point the app to a test database somewhere else. It sounds like your boss is being a total ass. It sounds like it may be time to find something better out there.

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